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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread

Skilletor

Member
Justin Wong being excited about dope combos in a brand new Marvel is suspect?

Jesus Christ.

If he were tweeting out stuff like he did with MvC3, people like that would be in line to be like, "See game sucks, even Justin says so."
 

KingBroly

Banned
Talking about capcom games feels more political than talking about politics at this point tbh

They don't put effort into their games anymore while acting like they do.

When DRAGON BALL causes more hype for being a Marvel clone than your own Marvel series game, you have a serious problem on your hands. Capcom should not have Budget issues with a Marvel game, but they clearly do and it's shining through with no filter.
 
I think he's slightly exaggerating with how overwhelmingly positive some people have been on twitter towards the game.

I think so, too.

I can see where he's coming from with the whole, "you're condemning Marvel if you say this" stuff, though. There are some who are legit happy about this, but that can be said about any game. For the most part, I think people want the game to be great.

I'm interested in seeing where this goes.
 

OsirisBlack

Banned
You LITERALLY just said "it doesnt matter how well it plays"

regarding a fighting game.

We are officially in crazy town.

Quoted for truth, watching some of the show floor footage people saying the game looks awful must be looking at another game. Some of this shit... see thanos Vids in this very thread..... look amazing. That full body energy release that leads to a crumple state looks so badass.Chun and caps models seem to be the worst offenders but the game does not look horrible.



Side note, I wonder if completing story mode will unlock any characters, that would be cool and also explain why zero wasn't on Ryce's leak list
 

KaYotiX

Banned
They don't put effort into their games anymore while acting like they do.

When DRAGON BALL causes more hype for being a Marvel clone than your own Marvel series game, you have a serious problem on your hands. Capcom should not have Budget issues with a Marvel game, but they clearly do and it's shining through with no filter.

Pretty much.... The new Marvel game should be the hypest shit ever created. Instead it has a "meh" reaction. Most of its problems Imo are due to an average roster and moveset atm.
 

eggandI

Banned
The thing with that Aris video is, he's just arguing against something that isn't actually happening. As has been said 100x times in this thread already, Justin tweets like that about literally everything he plays/watches/eats, fchamp already said he thinks the game looks like ass but he genuinely likes the gameplay and same goes for Yipes.

Like, who are these people he's talking about? Be specific when you talk about shit like this. Other marvel top players like RayRay, Flux, etc have already been criticizing the game heavily.
 

.la1n

Member
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/151656689

Here's that Aris rant from earlier. I thought he'd be sarcastic like usual and after reading the "Chun looks like Sajam with makeup" comment but he's really on point.

Also holding gem mechanics hostage by making them unlock through story seems sketch. I can see a lot of people skipping story cutscenes to get those and feeling frustrated.

NRS holding characters behind storywall is also annoying but at least their story modes aren't horrendous.

He's not wrong. The game looks like trash visually and there is going to have to be some serious work put in between now and launch to convince me otherwise.
 
Like I previously asked, why are we paying attention to that sexual-harassing-Hagrid-ass-looking-motherfucker?

He's just trying to stir shit up. People can like the game if they want, but if they don't then that's fine. Game looks fun to me so far so I'm just waiting for more vids.
 

MrCarter

Member
True dat.

Unfortunately it's been over a year since SFV's release and Capcom never turned it around. The stigma from launch week is still there, and just as intense. All I had to do was look at the user reviews the recent free betas got. Which is sad. But they have nobody to blame but themselves. MvCI has some silly things like poor-looking faces but it seems to be a solid fighter with the solo content that SFV didn't launch with so it would be a bit of a shame if it got hit in the "crossfire."

That said, the amount of negativity this game is receiving is ridiculous. It's unwarranted.

I actually think it's unwarranted for SFV now too because for all the launch issues they had, they have improved a lot since launch, but I guess a few insecure people on the web are still salty about it not having an arcade mode.

its kinda lol that the got the like 4 people being fake hype for this game in the same room though

Go back to GameFaqs or rKappa. Cheers.
 

J-Tier

Member
FGC drama?

That's like every other day and is usually very dumb/ill-informed. Especially people popping off about other people in the community, it's all so stupid.
 

OsirisBlack

Banned
They don't put effort into their games anymore while acting like they do.

When DRAGON BALL causes more hype for being a Marvel clone than your own Marvel series game, you have a serious problem on your hands. Capcom should not have Budget issues with a Marvel game, but they clearly do and it's shining through with no filter.

I think dbz is causing hype because it's looking like a fun fighting game. I say this as someone who HATEs dbz even the sound effects in this game (which looks awesome) irk me to no end. I also believe that if the x men and older favorites were in the game we'd be hearing a lot less complaints. Not saying mvci is in a perfect place right now but some of you are digging for the sake of digging... and yes Chun li needs a serious once over.
 

eggandI

Banned
Oh and forgot about Tampa Bison. Tampa Bison went in on the game earlier today. He straight up called it garbage lmao

I just don't see all the people shilling MvCI and being fake hyped for it
 
I think dbz is causing hype because it's looking like a fun fighting game. I say this as someone who HATE dbz even the sound effects in this game (which looks awesome) irk me to no end. I also believe that if the x men and older favorites were in the game we'd be hearing a lot less complaints. Not saying mvci is in a perfect place right now but some of you are digging for the sake of digging... and yes Chun li needs a serious once over.
People also wanted assists back too, so really a perfect storm of mechanics change, mediocre roster, and mediocre to bad graphics.

Oh and heavy asset reuse with a mediocre roster..
 

MrCarter

Member
Like I previously asked, why are we paying attention to that sexual-harassing-Hagrid-ass-looking-motherfucker?

He's just trying to stir shit up. People can like the game if they want, but if they don't then that's fine. Game looks fun to me so far so I'm just waiting for more vids.

Oh wow. I do think Hagrid *cough* Aris feeds off attention though. Anyway, like you said, his word isn't obviously gospel.
 

DR2K

Banned
Wong shilling for Dissidia now, he can't keep getting away with this

Will someone stop that man from having fun? This is madness!!!

Come on guys, I don't think MVCi has many redeeming qualities, but people can like things you don't. Even be excited for them. Maybe at higher levels the game opens up in new ways? Maybe higher level players can see the potential on these systems that the average buyers doesn't?

MVCi isn't irredeemable, it's tragic right now, but Capcom does have talented people, somewhere.
 

jett

D-Member
i dont want this game to be garbage. i want it to work. but justin tweeting like umvc3 day 1 nova combos and being like "nova got dat rushdown yo!" is ridiculous. how can you not agree?

Have you not seen Justin's twitter feed before? He tweets like an overexcited 14 year-old about nearly everything. If he's look particularly shillish about Mahvel, I'd put it down to Combofiend being his friend and him just trying to put out a positive message about a game he genuinely likes. Not because of some shady backdoor deal.

Aside from claiming pro-players are paid off (which technically isn't true but you can't deny that people who play these for a living have a vested interest in the game's success), he has very valid points.

I think he has nothing. He went on a rant calling the game trash and garbage because of a few poor-looking faces. Oh and he thinks there's a widespread FGC conspiracy to promote the game. Yeah, valid points.

He's not wrong. The game looks like trash visually and there is going to have to be some serious work put in between now and launch to convince me otherwise.

Sorry but a few shitty looking faces in close-ups doesn't make this game trash visually.

a8ssGig.jpg


How is this trash visually? Am I nuts here?
 

LaNaranja

Member
I actually think it's unwarranted for SFV now too because for all the launch issues they had, they have improved a lot since launch, but I guess a few insecure people on the web are still salty about it not having an arcade mode.

The DLC prices are still completely unacceptable in SFV. Motherfucking $4.99 for a single costume?!?!? No-one complains about this though because nobody outside of a handful of chumps like me bought the game. Also the story was complete and utter shit. MK vs DCU was almost 10 years ago now, how the hell have they still not figured out how to make something even halfway decent?

With MvCI I really really want to want it. I still have the fondest memories of playing the first MvC and going back to 2v2 was like my number one request (fucking monkey paw). Everything about the presentation of MvCI looks like shit and it seems like it is going to crater just as fast and SFV did which means I would have to be a fucking fool to buy it at full price now when it will be hitting bargain bin prices before years end.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
there is no "ok" or "good" on the internet. Its either amazing or trash. You should know that by now :p

those Carol combo gifs someone was posting earlier, are they made by a gaffer?
 
Sorry but I guess I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. The game looks like a mobile game. Maybe saying words like "trash" and "garbage" is harsh, but let's not kid anyone here... The game looks bad. So Aris sound quite valid to me. I can have this opinion yet still think the game is fun and will get it. You guys are showing some decent stills and claiming the game isn't ugly. Just like people showing Chun li face and saying the game is trash. The truth is in the middle and the middle is mediocre at best.
 
there is no "ok" or "good" on the internet. Its either amazing or trash. You should know that by now :p

those Carol combo gifs someone was posting earlier, are they made by a gaffer?

I think you're mentioning my gifs... Thats all me recording on my elgato and making them into gifs.
 
After playing the demo... The gameplay doesn't feel bad, but it's very simple. I'm sure there's depth to it under the surface, so I would compare it to something along the lines of Smash Bros. or Playstation All-Stars in that regard. But the dialogue and voice acting is so bad it's fucking offensive.
 

Anth0ny

Member
ahahah aris and tampa bison are so on point

but in this age of apologists for billion dollar companies you're going to get shit for talking like that. ESPECIALLY on a place like GAF, where talking like that makes you "entitled" and people take it personally when you make fun of their favorite children's video game that they've never played.
 

Lulubop

Member
ahahah aris and tampa bison are so on point

but in this age of apologists for billion dollar companies you're going to get shit for talking like that. ESPECIALLY on a place like GAF, where talking like that makes you "entitled" and people take it personally when you make fun of their favorite children's video game that they've never played.

who's apologizing here? The same people going in on Capcom over SFV? Are they just happy they got to play a new entry in their favorite franchise?
 

Ryce

Member
Sony was supposed to stream a live demonstration of MvCI a few minutes ago, but they skipped it and just replayed the story trailer.

LMAO
 
ahahah aris and tampa bison are so on point

but in this age of apologists for billion dollar companies you're going to get shit for talking like that. ESPECIALLY on a place like GAF, where talking like that makes you "entitled" and people take it personally when you make fun of their favorite children's video game that they've never played.

Yes. You know. The tons of Capcom apologists. They exist. Both Infinite and SFV only have people defending them. Its totally not the opposite.
 
Just played the demo and.... please tell me we can turn off easy supers


Plus I hate how streamlined the moves and combos are, Dante's moves have been gutted to hell and everyone's DP motion moves are gone.

sigh
 

Giga Man

Member
Sony was supposed to stream a live demonstration of MvCI a few minutes ago, but they skipped it and just replayed the story trailer.

LMAO

They didn't have access to the gameplay trailer? What a joke, man.

I hope we see some gameplay videos on youtube tonight from somebody. I can't imagine how badly the media has it right now. I'm curious if Maximilian is recording his gameplay, or if he's even had a chance to play yet.

Just played the demo and.... please tell me we can turn off easy supers
You can turn them off in the demo. Go to controller settings and click on the first highlighted thing which I think says "controller options".
 

MrCarter

Member
The DLC prices are still completely unacceptable in SFV. Motherfucking $4.99 for a single costume?!?!? No-one complains about this though because nobody outside of a handful of chumps like me bought the game. Also the story was complete and utter shit. MK vs DCU was almost 10 years ago now, how the hell have they still not figured out how to make something even halfway decent?

With MvCI I really really want to want it. I still have the fondest memories of playing the first MvC and going back to 2v2 was like my number one request (fucking monkey paw). Everything about the presentation of MvCI looks like shit and it seems like it is going to crater just as fast and SFV did which means I would have to be a fucking fool to buy it at full price now when it will be hitting bargain bin prices before years end.

First of all it's $3.99 and costumes are also expensive in other fighters, yes it still doesn't make it right, but why are they getting a free pass? I do want them to lower the price to at least $2.99 but if they are selling Chun costumes like hot cakes I understand why they wouldn't lol.

I liked the story mode. It was their first attempt, I liked the humour and Saturday-morning cartoon-vibe from it all so each to thier own, I guess. MvCi aesthetics are poor right now (which is a shame considering how good their presentation on SFV is) but the gameplay seems solid so far.
 
He probably got a nice check since then.

Eh, I don't know.

Champ made a tweet saying they should get rid of the team that did the art in the first place even though he's shown in a room with the "left behind" guy. I think their opinions can vary on the game without it having a deeper meaning.

Just played the demo and.... please tell me we can turn off easy supers

I believe you can. I know you can turn off auto-combos.
 

Risero

Banned
Can we all take a sec to appreciate how great the main menu is? Also holy shit I cannot beat Ultron Sigma for the life of me.


Just to give my 2 cents on the discussion: with the exception of certain models like Dante this game is really friggin pretty. Graphically the best fighter I've ever seen. Not sure I like to change to kicks and punches though. As a pad player I can't just move my thumb around in a circle like I could before. Now it feels really awkward to try and do a magic series.

Oh and X's moveset is amazing
 

kirblar

Member
Can we all take a sec to appreciate how great the main menu is? Also holy shit I cannot beat Ultron Sigma for the life of me.


Just to give my 2 cents on the discussion: with the exception of certain models like Dante this game is really friggin pretty. Graphically the best fighter I've ever seen. Not sure I like to change to kicks and punches though. As a pad player I can't just move my thumb around in a circle like I could before. Now it feels really awkward to try and do a magic series.

Oh and X's moveset is amazing
I think they had to do it in order to get the simplified commands in. Otherwise, they don't have enough commands per character. I agree that it feels like a step backwards.
 

Dahbomb

Member
You know what bugs me the most?

The hell happened to the communication between fans and Capcom? Feels like Capcom is getting absolutely zero feedback on the game. The only thing they get is from the pros who are Combofiend's friends but these dudes are not going to be looking out for the interests of the casuals.

Viscant is right, stuff like Chun Li's face matters very little to your average pro player but it's a damn near deal breaker for casuals and it reflects poorly on the game when Esports are involved. You put thing he game up in front of thousands on TV and they see those faces, who the hell is going to want to buy that game?


Capcom's tone deaf communication with their fanbase is frightening. That actually scares me the most about the game, that they actually don't even know exactly why people are complaining or why this game has such a toxic word of mouth lately. They didn't have a clue with SFV either and it's being reflected in Marvel Infinite with them shoving that awful story mode down our throats.
 

Risero

Banned
I think they had to do it in order to get the simplified commands in. Otherwise, they don't have enough commands per character. I agree that it feels like a step backwards.

Yeah but I feel like it won't take too long to readjust my muscle memory once I get my hands on training mode.


Seriously you guys are being too negative. I was one of this thread's biggest haters since the roster reveal but this demo seriously won me back over. Given how much all the veterans have changed, I can accept a small roster. Dante, Rocket, and Chris feel completely different
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
You know what bugs me the most?

The hell happened to the communication between fans and Capcom? Feels like Capcom is getting absolutely zero feedback on the game. The only thing they get is from the pros who are Combofiend's friends but these dudes are not going to be looking out for the interests of the casuals.

Viscant is right, stuff like Chun Li's face matters very little to your average pro player but it's a damn near deal breaker for casuals and it reflects poorly on the game when Esports are involved. You put thing he game up in front of thousands on TV and they see those faces, who the hell is going to want to buy that game?


Capcom's tone deaf communication with their fanbase is frightening. That actually scares me the most about the game, that they actually don't even know exactly why people are complaining or why this game has such a toxic word of mouth lately. They didn't have a clue with SFV either and it's being reflected in Marvel Infinite with them shoving that awful story mode down our throats.

the fact they gave us the story demo instead of the vs demo clearly shows they are out of touch.

"but Rhaknar, you never get access to those E3 demos"

thats true, but A) they have these 2 demos, and they gave us the story one where you cant analyse the game properly, we wouldnt get the story demo before either, andmore importantly B) clearly the word of mouth around the game is toxic and that VS demo would do wonders to maybe help with that.
 
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