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maybe impossible but 499 is not. and if sony is 499 as well. its checkmate.
I think most of these insiders are full of shit, but one thing that does stand out as peculiar.There is nothing that these guys have stated that makes them the 'God' of either corporation.
Every single one of these guys have said PS5 is the more powerful of the two along with Jason Schreier (not sure of the spelling of his last name lol)
Matt has come out to say that the Github leak is not accurate which has the PS5 at 9.2TF's and other's have pointed out some inconsistencies in that leak as well. Digital Foundry did a piece on it whereby they stated some things don't look right and some are parts are probably accurate.
Personally i believe PS5 is at same level or slightly more powerful as Xbox Series X. Too many people in the know have said this. Sony's also super secretive about where they're at and the insiders have gone quiet. Any of them could have come out and flat out confirmed or denied the github leaks but none of them have which to me speaks to Sony's strict secrecy around PS5.
We have a month to go until all is revealed and if I was an insider, i wouldn't want to jeopardize the job of my industry source for the sake of being the first on forums to post or corroborate information that was leaked online. It's not worth it and i understand the silence of people like Matt, Klee, Jason etc.
When information is revealed i fully expect these guys to spill everything.
That figure has been circulating duo to mutliplier given by MS "4xCPU" "2xX GPU" "1.5xRAM".I already posted here how that figure was circulating as early as April this year. I'm not saying Tom Warren is not an insider, but the info he had wasn't exactly new and he didn't have the specific details like what Windows Central provided.
No. This figure with details was out there since February. It wasn't Windows Central, Tom Warren or Dealer (as TimDog claims) that came up with these numbers first. It was old news that people are just taking credit for. It was actually a French site that leaked these details first.That figure has been circulating duo to mutliplier given by MS "4xCPU" "2xX GPU" "1.5xRAM".
What he reported in November was specifically because this was confirmation of Navi TF. Whole different ballgame then "2 x X GPU", thats why it gained traction.
No body really bought 12TF in summer because we know 10TFNavi is ~180W card.
Seems more and more People are saying PS5 reveal is pointing towards February.
This just all about who's "insider" info agrees most with who's narrative.
Osiris/klee is the sony fanboys "God". While Tom or whatever his name is the xbox fanboys "God".
Perfect example. Was just catching up on this thread and without mentioning the name. How is it someone was dispelling one rumor that ps5 is 14tf while using the rumor that ps5 is $399 to "prove" their point? Lol
I just want 4k/60 as the minimum for next gen and games. Don't care how they do it. Microsoft has a long fight ahead of them to make this gen competitive. Power is great and all but we need some fucking games to show it off on.
There is nothing that these guys have stated that makes them the 'God' of either corporation.
Every single one of these guys have said PS5 is the more powerful of the two along with Jason Schreier (not sure of the spelling of his last name lol)
Matt has come out to say that the Github leak is not accurate which has the PS5 at 9.2TF's and other's have pointed out some inconsistencies in that leak as well. Digital Foundry did a piece on it whereby they stated some things don't look right and some are parts are probably accurate.
Personally i believe PS5 is at same level or slightly more powerful as Xbox Series X. Too many people in the know have said this. Sony's also super secretive about where they're at and the insiders have gone quiet. Any of them could have come out and flat out confirmed or denied the github leaks but none of them have which to me speaks to Sony's strict secrecy around PS5.
We have a month to go until all is revealed and if I was an insider, i wouldn't want to jeopardize the job of my industry source for the sake of being the first on forums to post or corroborate information that was leaked online. It's not worth it and i understand the silence of people like Matt, Klee, Jason etc.
When information is revealed i fully expect these guys to spill everything.
Seems more and more People are saying PS5 reveal is pointing towards February.
YepApparently he is not a trustable insider
These guys are either mods or games media editors. Klee has also been verified by the mods on Resetera. These are people in the know on whats going on. Jason Schreier states that the was told PS5 and Scarlett are both above 10TF's whereas the Github leaks put the PS5 at 9.2TFs. I doubt Jason would put in jeopardy his Resetera account to spread FUD, the same with the other insiders.I think most of these insiders are full of shit, but one thing that does stand out as peculiar.
The github leaks were taken down.
Like any stupid video game rumour out there, if the info being thrown around is off, nobody seems to give a shit if it's on message boards for gamers to go wild.
But when there's secret data, a gameplay leak, or something like that, the game companies come roaring in taking it down..... which github info was too.
Actually I was talking about this one :No. This figure with details was out there since February. It wasn't Windows Central, Tom Warren or Dealer (as TimDog claims) that came up with these numbers first. It was old news that people are just taking credit for. It was actually a French site that leaked these details first.
It's actually 5 tflops vs 6 tflops whje architecture differences are taken into account. If this tflop number is correct then it just indicates that Lockhart is targeting 1080p. That number is probably enough to do 1080p next gen, although the should give it more headroom so it doesn't end up in the same situation as base Xbox One which runs many of latest games at 720p 20-30fps.Do you guys think that both Xsex and PS5 will have a decent launch? Decent launch meaning:
1) Besides backwards compatible games, a decent number of new and quality launch games covering plethora of genres: racing, sports, fighting, rpg etc (Sega Dreamcast launch was the best! 9.9.99 baby!)
2) No hardware flaws or issues (ex: red ring of death, wifi not working, etc)
If Lockhart is true, then it's really throwing a wrench because I dont get it. 4 TFLOPS vs Xbone X 6TFLOPS? WTF?
Actually I was talking about this one :
Posted on Reddit before Jeux Video rumor (which looked like it was copied word for word).
It's actually 5 tflops vs 6 tflops whje architecture differences are taken into account. If this tflop number is correct then it just indicates that Lockhart is targeting 1080p. That number is probably enough to do 1080p next gen, although the should give it more headroom so it doesn't end up in the same situation as base Xbox One which runs many of latest games at 720p 20-30fps.
Jurnos can be wrong, they have been quite a few times, especially when flops and mbs are concerened. For them, its all too abstract.These guys are either mods or games media editors. Klee has also been verified by the mods on Resetera. These are people in the know on whats going on. Jason Schreier states that the was told PS5 and Scarlett are both above 10TF's whereas the Github leaks put the PS5 at 9.2TFs. I doubt Jason would put in jeopardy his Resetera account to spread FUD, the same with the other insiders.
Tom Warren around E3 last year posted the PS5 devkit being around 13TF's and Xbox Series X around 12TF.
If you have this many people in the know all singing the same tune then clearly there has to be some truth to it.
The github leaks probably contained 'some' information that was accurate and probably the reason for why it was taken down. However i believe that not everything in that document is correct.
Again Matt posted to not take the github leaks as being accurate. Again, a mod won't go out of their way to spread misinformation.
You're free to believe what you want regarding the insiders. Its just like i said before, too many of them have been singing the same tune for a few months now.
Not. A. Fucking. Chance.Do you guys think that both Xsex and PS5 will have a decent launch? Decent launch meaning:
1) Besides backwards compatible games, a decent number of new and quality launch games covering plethora of genres: racing, sports, fighting, rpg etc (Sega Dreamcast launch was the best! 9.9.99 baby!)
2) No hardware flaws or issues (ex: red ring of death, wifi not working, etc)
If Lockhart is true, then it's really throwing a wrench because I dont get it. 4 TFLOPS vs Xbone X 6TFLOPS? WTF?
I think consumers are much smarter today with numbering as almost all the tech has confusing product names. A lot will also depend on how Microsoft will attempt to simplify that process/choice.You dont think Microsoft is screwing themselves over with Lockhart? You will now have: Xbox Anaconda SKU, Xbox Lockhart SKU, Xbox One X, Xbox One. How would an average gamer distinguish between Lockhart and Xbox One X if One X markets itself as "4K gaming" while lockhart does not?
As we have learned today Digital Foundrys article on said leak was probably based on fake info.
You dont think Microsoft is screwing themselves over with Lockhart? You will now have: Xbox Anaconda SKU, Xbox Lockhart SKU, Xbox One X, Xbox One. How would an average gamer distinguish between Lockhart and Xbox One X if One X markets itself as "4K gaming" while lockhart does not?
Noted.Jurnos can be wrong, they have been quite a few times, especially when flops and mbs are concerened. For them, its all too abstract.
Klee is verified as a ex jurno, who stopped with being one back in 2000.
JS said "they are both shooting above Stadia TF number". Now, when he posted this dev kit Sony sent contained 13TF Vegas. He might got info back then, which was true, but 13TF Vega is not 13TF RDNA. Actually, card found in Oberon leak beats 13TF Vega 64 with EASE.
Tom Warren said he was only spreading twitter rumors on "13TF dev kit". Which, actually collaborate with early 13TF Vega kits that were sent and which Jason might have had info on.
So again, nothing concrete. Shooting for, aiming, roundabout etc. AMD github leak is all about numbers. Bits and bytes![]()
Actually I was talking about this one :
Posted on Reddit before Jeux Video rumor (which looked like it was copied word for word).
That was confirmed back in January 2019?Man the thing that kill this info for me is "... I don't know if PS5 will have Ray Tracing...", when everyone knows that Sony confirmed the HW RT
Nope but if he knows the specs, he knows that...That was confirmed back in January 2019?
Consumers are smarter these days and when there's an obvious price difference a simple Google search will help them.
The recent Github leaks had no mention of hardware RT either.Nope but if he knows the specs, he knows that
A lot of that info proved to be correct and some unconfirmed stuff was backed up by other insiders, so we can at least give him credit for that.Nope but if he knows the specs, he knows that
Man the thing that kill this info for me is "... I don't know if PS5 will have Ray Tracing...", when everyone knows that Sony confirmed the HW RT
As the Heisenberg posted with Komachi tweet, probably DF info is wrong. And Sony confirms the RT so probably Github information is wrong tooThe recent Github leaks had no mention of hardware RT either.
Or they’re using a custom solution.As the Heisenberg posted with Komachi tweet, probably DF info is wrong. And Sony confirms the RT so Github information probably is wrong too
Nobody denies that, we just don't know what price they're targeting. So until price is up for debate so are the tflops.If Sony is aiming on a 399 price point it won't be a 10+ tf system. Simple as that.
Yep plans can change, but add RT in project aiming $399 that doesn't have it, would increase the value too. That is what I thinkthat info is old. he just leaked what he had heard at the time. plans change.
Everything is up for debate as long those specifications aren't released. But it looks likely Microsoft will have their 12TF console. The debate is mostly if Sony is going to follow. Which I doubt.Nobody denies that, we just don't know what price they're targeting. So until price is up for debate so are the tflops.
Sony don't need to match it, they could just release a 10.5-11 tflops machine at cheaper price and be just fine.Everything is up for debate as long those specifications aren't released. But it looks likely Microsoft will have their 12TF console. The debate is mostly if Sony is going to follow. Which I doubt.
Nothing in github is wrong. Test done on Oberon had nothing to do with RT, thus no RT. AMD repo from Github is 100% legit. It contained so much info that you would need months to put that all in. It also contained AMD employee data, future PC chips etc.As the Heisenberg posted with Komachi tweet, probably DF info is wrong. And Sony confirms the RT so probably Github information is wrong too
Nothing in github is wrong. Test done on Oberon had nothing to do with RT, thus no RT. AMD repo from Github is 100% legit. It contained so much info that you would need months to put that all in. It also contained AMD employee data, future PC chips etc.
"When idle, the 17-inch notebook is very quiet or silent most of the time. However, under load, the device becomes uncomfortably loud." Review of the first laptop you listed.Asus ROG Zephyrus S GX701
CPU: Intel Core i7 | Graphics: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 – GeForce GTX 2080 Max-Q (8GB GDDR6 VRAM) | RAM: 8GB – 24GB | Screen: 17.3-inch FHD (1,920 x 1,080) 144Hz panel with G-Sync
this is one of tens of laptops I found.
another one which is even more powerful than the last:
Alienware Area-51m
CPU: Intel Core i7-9700 – i9-9900K | Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 – 2080 | RAM: 16GB – 64GB | Screen: 17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) 60Hz Anti-Glare IPS – 144Hz IPS NVIDIA G-SYNC | Storage: 1TB SSHD – 2TB RAID0 SSDs + 1TB SSHD
If everything in Github is true, why we still debate the PS5 and XseX specs, it's because we don't agree with that. And if Github is right and have no RT in PS5 why Sony was the first company to tell about Ray Tracing even before MS ? Why is Sony lying about RT in PS5 since he doesn't have this feature ???Nothing in github is wrong. Test done on Oberon had nothing to do with RT, thus no RT. AMD repo from Github is 100% legit. It contained so much info that you would need months to put that all in. It also contained AMD employee data, future PC chips etc.
Sorry for any grammatical error, english is my second languageIf everything in Github is true, why we still debate the PS5 and XseX specs, it's because we don't agree with that. And if Github is right and have no RT in PS5 why Sony was the first company to tell about Ray Tracing even before MS ? Why is Sony lying about RT in PS5 since he doesn't have this feature ???
Nothing in github is wrong. Test done on Oberon had nothing to do with RT, thus no RT. AMD repo from Github is 100% legit. It contained so much info that you would need months to put that all in. It also contained AMD employee data, future PC chips etc.
The point is, consumers should not be confused by default and should not have to do a google search or extra whatever to make a clear distinction that Xbox whatever is a new shinier, better console. With PlayStation: Playstation 5 is newer than PS4 and PS4Pro cause its the number 5. And of course they will see it on display, and try the games out for themselves to further drive home a solid sale-buy.
As Reindeer stated, its going to be up to Microsoft to really market and communicate effectively what the purpose of Lockhart is to distinguish itself from Xbox One X. If Lockhart is 4TFLOPS (i know its not the same TFLOPS as Xbox One X cause of RDNA) then they have several marketing hurdles and barriers to overcome.
Lockart could be analogous to flagship phone launches from apple and samsung. What would Lockhart be: Iphone SE? Samsung mid-range phones?
That would be smart for sure. Really interested in their angle. Reveal the box or no? I think E3 should be specifically for price reveal and game announcement, with a touch on prior topics on hardware.If it was me I'd do more specs and some trailers, but no box .. keep people thirsty