Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Do you remember when we said Sony would reveal something before we hit 1,000 pages? That was EIGHTY THREE pages ago...
Good times... good times...
Good times... good times...
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DrDamn
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Cross-buy has covered PS4, PS3 *and* PSV before. Just log onto the machine and you can download the version if you've bought it digitally on one of the others. So they already have the functionality baked into their systems. Buying PS5 and also wanting PS4 version is probably quite niche, but useful for someone keeping hold of their old system for kids/other room etc. Which reminds me Sony do need to implement a much better cloud save system this time round to support this.
It's going to end up on all their twitter accounts, though I'd forgotten it was PS+ time of the month so likely to be that.
PaintTinJr
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The big difference is that we have now moved into HD resolutions that are favourable resolutions on large sized TVs (anything below ~65” IMHO) and a move to RT simplifies the scalability in a performance predictable way, and because special care wasn’t taken to fake the RT visuals. Scaling resolutions, increased bounce counts, widening FOV or changing frame-rates doesn’t create visual artefacts or coherence issues with game models., or at least, it shouldn’t.
Reindeer
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Very good point, Microsoft with their microtransaction based approach to their games is perfect fit for GamePass. Don't know how I missed this.
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Rudius
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In that case I would buy an Xbox. I'm only interested in the PS5 so far because of VR, specs won't change that. But if Series X offered support for PCVR HMD it would be a very cost-effective way to have access to that great library of titles.
Moridianae
Member
On the subject of a potential PS5 Pro or even XSX Elite(or whatever it is named), I'm sure they'll both come along eventually.
RT may not be as fully featured in these systems, but as technology advances I could see a slightly stronger system being brought out with enhanced RT, VRS, etc.
Most likely will *have* those 14-15TF GPUs by then.
But til then, these systems are pretty damned powerful.
Insistence on 1080 doesnt make it so. Seems to be 2080 Super level which is insane.
RT may not be as fully featured in these systems, but as technology advances I could see a slightly stronger system being brought out with enhanced RT, VRS, etc.
Most likely will *have* those 14-15TF GPUs by then.
But til then, these systems are pretty damned powerful.
Insistence on 1080 doesnt make it so. Seems to be 2080 Super level which is insane.
Reindeer
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Horizon Zero Dawn PC Version Listed on Amazon France
Horizon Zero Dawn PC was listed on Amazon France. With the third anniversary coming up, Sony could be gearing for an announcement shortly.
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saintjules
Member
I think some people were saying it's to announce PS+ games for March. Ah, well.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
You know, I’ve heard a lot of rumblings online about tv manufacturers wanting to ditch the 16:9 aspect ratio and move into something more like 21:9
As somebody who lives in the Uk, where even Sky tv doesn’t have 720p for a lot of its channels yet, I can’t imagine what a colossal fuck up that would all be...
As somebody who lives in the Uk, where even Sky tv doesn’t have 720p for a lot of its channels yet, I can’t imagine what a colossal fuck up that would all be...
IllegalLemon
Member
I don't know if this has already been posted here. But here it is.
SkHynix calls out the recent big navi rumours as false
SkHynix calls out the recent big navi rumours as false
Rudius
Member
In what kinds of improvements do you think Sony will focus for the next generation of PSVR? Can we expect an increase of FOV? Perhaps eye tracking?Bypassing "bad intention" when choosing frames, one could say yes. Talent is important. Very closely followed by time (optimization) and budget. But...
Now imagine "xx.xTF" of VR power in the hands of talented people and efficient hardware. It scares literally just thinking about it.
deccangamer
Banned
oopsie. Global warming researches are pretty spot on.
Great Hair
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Philips 21:9 since 2010
chemical boy
Member
If it were Sony I would fire those in charge of the marketing campaign, I think the planning so far is painful.
Ready at Dawn would be all over that.
All the silence could mean they are almost ready to literally blow our minds
Kazekage1981
Member
Guys, I think I have finally figured out the real deal with these insiders and what their purpose is to bring to this forum: disruption and confusion. I think both Microsoft and Sony know that leaks are poorly controlled, so the best way to not reveal their companys ‘secrets’ is to pay these insiders or give them some incentives to keep us guessing. The narrative on PS5 specs has been most peculiar: 9TFLOPS all the way to 13 TFLOPS. Why such a huge variance amongst these insiders? You would think that all these insiders would be close to the same ball park of what PS5 could potentially be. I get this strange feeling that Sony and Microsoft are watching this forum and other gaming forums very closely and are totally fucking with us until the very end (until their full reveal). I wouldn’t be surprised if these ‘insiders’ are coordinating amongst each other on how to continue to cause further disruption, and mind fuck with us until the very end.
My gut feeling on Microsoft TFLOPS specs was right, they had to get over the marketing hurdle of ‘double the GPU performance or double the TFLOPS” because most people wont know the difference between GCN and RDNA 2 so the number had to be 12. Yet you had insiders that were shifting the goal post just a little so that it would cause hesitancy, apprehension amongst yourselves. I will stick to my gut instinct this time for PS5: it *will* be double digit TFLOPS, but it wont be as powerful as XsX. I would say 10-11 TFLOPS, with PS5 being a more efficient, tighter, well integrated and well balanced overall machine.
As far as VFXveterans PC master race rhetoric, I think its an absolute fucking miracle that for both consoles you are getting something spectacular spec wise for a price of $500-$600. He just cant seem to fathom the thought that you would get something so jam packed like this. Well guess what: you are. Its reality. For PC enthusiasts whining and bitching that consoles are holding PC games back: not anymore. These consoles are helping the PC master race, because they have raised the standards and bar on what next generation graphics are going to be. AMD has made some fundamental changes in their microarchitecture and hit the sweet spot on price to performance ratio. You will not get this from Intel, NVIDIA, or even Qualcomm without considering selling your organs.
You are all going to win regardless of what system you buy. You guys are going to start this decade off fantastic. Stop relying on these insiders, stop letting them fuck with your mind and have a vision for yourself on how much ‘greatness awaits.’
Peace.
My gut feeling on Microsoft TFLOPS specs was right, they had to get over the marketing hurdle of ‘double the GPU performance or double the TFLOPS” because most people wont know the difference between GCN and RDNA 2 so the number had to be 12. Yet you had insiders that were shifting the goal post just a little so that it would cause hesitancy, apprehension amongst yourselves. I will stick to my gut instinct this time for PS5: it *will* be double digit TFLOPS, but it wont be as powerful as XsX. I would say 10-11 TFLOPS, with PS5 being a more efficient, tighter, well integrated and well balanced overall machine.
As far as VFXveterans PC master race rhetoric, I think its an absolute fucking miracle that for both consoles you are getting something spectacular spec wise for a price of $500-$600. He just cant seem to fathom the thought that you would get something so jam packed like this. Well guess what: you are. Its reality. For PC enthusiasts whining and bitching that consoles are holding PC games back: not anymore. These consoles are helping the PC master race, because they have raised the standards and bar on what next generation graphics are going to be. AMD has made some fundamental changes in their microarchitecture and hit the sweet spot on price to performance ratio. You will not get this from Intel, NVIDIA, or even Qualcomm without considering selling your organs.
You are all going to win regardless of what system you buy. You guys are going to start this decade off fantastic. Stop relying on these insiders, stop letting them fuck with your mind and have a vision for yourself on how much ‘greatness awaits.’
Peace.
deccangamer
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Kazekage1981
The xbox series x pics leaks were staged. Microsoft has the mindshare crown now. People now subconsciously think that Xbox will be something big.
CyberPanda
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Who cares? DOA has gone downhill badly imo.
chemical boy
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Sony is allowing a negative public opinion towards ps5. This sensation will increase as the months go by if sony does not present ps5. All this will disappear if the ps5 is up to expectations. On the contrary, if the console disappoints, they will have made a terrible mistake.
Shio
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Looking at PS4 Pro and Xbox One X games, users i think would see them as pretty equal and most would probably not know the TF difference between them thus when the new consoles are released Microsoft can claim 2x the power of Xbox One X whereas for Sony to claim the same they only have to have a system more than 8.4tf...anything more than that and they can say more than 2x which makes it sound more powerful than the Xbox One X to a consumer. I can see marketing preferring to compare with the previous generations in regards to power as it sounds more impressive rather than just stating a tf number. Imagine seeing a poster stating Xbox Series X, 2X the power of Xbox One X, then PS5 2X the power of PS4 Pro, they sound similar in power. I suppose it could go the other way too if Microsoft compared to the original Xbox One and Sony compared to the PS4, then it would look better in Microsoft's favour.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Truth be told, I never played any of them. Not my cup of tea. But I do like boobies, so, you know.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
To be fair, the XsX is big.
DrDamn
Member
They are running out of tangible things to sell us TVs. 8K isn't going to be a big difference for most people. Let's just change the aspect ratio
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
They are running out of tangible things to sell us TVs. 8K isn't going to be a big difference for most people. Let's just change the aspect ratio
Well curved died a quick death as well, lol.
CyberPanda
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This post didn’t age well. Oof
Fake
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This post didn’t age well. Oof
I expected more from you. At least read the feel next pages.
ZywyPL
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This post didn’t age well. Oof
But that's sort of what actually happened - MS didn't use Navi (RDNA), instead, they went even a step further and used RDNA2 ;D
BlacknGold_Blood
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PlayStation Plus game lineup revealed today
Neo Blaster
Member
Well, when I see someone like John Linneman, a guy who is used to make DF's technical analysis, express his concerns over Lockart, I don't think the issue here is just a resolution scaling. Besides, we've already heard developers complain about it.
Neo Blaster
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Damn, that's not the reveal I want.
Fake
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They used Jaguar CPU in their initial dev kits as well btw.
xool
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imo the narrative has been split ~ 9 or ~13TF - there's one simple explanation for this - 12.8TF GCN devkits simulating ~9TF RDNA performance ..
Will find out soon I think
I think a lot of people will be suprised just how compact the Series X is .. way less volume than a SFF PC for instance
pawel86ck
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VFXVeteran is vetted (unlike fake insiders) and his claim coresponds well with 2 SKUs leak I have mentioned before. If his info will end up wrong then I would understand some people would want to attack him for providing wrong information, but why some of you are attacking him now?
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FranXico
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Are you referring to any fake insiders in particular? If so, who?
Reindeer
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As did 3D.
pawel86ck
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Insiders who have pushed February and 13TF narrative and who refused to get vetted.
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
My old Bravia was 3d, but the trouble was at 1080p the resolution is way too low to really use for a large tv.
8k glasses less 3d with wide angle would look great I imagine, but it’s still not for me.
Hell, I sold my 3ds and bought a 2ds xl. Cheaper, and I never used the 3D anyway.
BlacknGold_Blood
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I think our only hope for this week is that pastebin that was deleted after being up for 10 minutes was true.Damn, that's not the reveal I want.
Reindeer
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Wasn't Tomy Fisher accurate regarding Series X specs? I think he also said RDNA2.
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FranXico
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Shit 21-9 is... 12... oh my fucking god I’m going full on Jim Carrey over here...
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pawel86ck
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Listen if you make many guesses some of them will end up true. As I remember Tommy Fisher also wrote claims in regards to PS5 architecture using some strange info that doesnt even correspond with Navi and back then many people called him a liar because of that. I have no reason to trust Tommy Fisher and in my book he is a fake insider.
Neofire
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I noticed this as well and cracked him on it a few weeks ago but he was stuck on that all Xbox and Playstation games on the PC master race rhetoric.What the Fuck happened here ?
Just quote my self about insiders and their status on next gen from before .Pay attention to vfx part . He proved it yet again today .
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
@o'dium it's tiring, isn't it? You know that the vitriol from both sides will never stop.www.neogaf.com
For vfx I wrote :
vfx (changes his view nonstop he said both are 1080 level but he keeps changing as soon as a news come up so disregard him )
He just proved my assessment yet again . Ps5 and ps5 pro . They both launch at the same time . I don’t know when they launch . They can’t be near 2080 super (maaah pc master race threatened). Price issues . Not launching soon lol
the whole point : he fucking dread consoles being close to his precious pc while being cheaper lol
ethomaz
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Brasil same.
First case from somebody coming from a travel in Italy.
Fake
Member
He say Horizon 1 on PC > Horizon 2 on PS5... even after Death Stranding get a huge improve on water.
São Paulo. Still need the re-confirmation.
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jsig212james
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If
OsirisBlack
is saying Rocksteady’s game is Superman/Batman, then he’s lying, because I know EXACTLY what Rocksteady’s game is, and it isn’t that.So again, who’s developing this so called Superman game, Osiris?
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