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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Maybe just share it directly to compensate the let down some people had after Tommy Fischer. They can use a pick me up

Where is the fun in that though man?!

Ok, so...

Date I've heard is March 5th for *something*. No I don't know what, other than it will be "interesting". I assume it could be AMD show related, and as this is from a guy more in line with PlayStation than Xbox, I would guess PS5 wise. It could be related to some new spec details though. While plans change due to the virus, I'm gonna hold him to that, as he's trustworthy. I would be very shocked if not, and he hasn't said anything to the contrary. After I posted some hints to this, suddenly everybody started posting about the AMD show and MS, so who the fuck knows. Maybe, maybe something else. Check the post history.

Info I've heard is relating to TF count will piss a lot of people off but oh well... Remember ages ago I mentioned they were trying to get to 11.5 and ran into a few thermal issues stopping them and were higher 10, then I was backed up by a few other people on that case that heats were a bit higher than they would like, so couldn't push any higher? Well, they fixed the thermals. The down side is that they are a bit more noisy now, the upside, is that the current TF clock his end, is currently 11.6. HOWEVER... There is talk that they may have to adjust the GPU profile if the heat isn't performing up to scratch. There are certain thresholds they don't want to go over, because more heat = more issues, obviously, so while the heat isn't an issue as such right now, they may have to drop the clock to reduce the noise. Now, a slight drop can create a large db reduction while being unnoticeable to everyday performance, so if they dropped it to lets say 11.5, or 11.4, you wouldn't exactly see anything ingame. This is the most up to date info I have, and its from a first party dev. Again, check my post history, most recently today and yesterday, for the 11.6. I'm sure I don't have to explain that 11.6 versus 12 is a god damn mirror image, and that once you factor in the better SSD and other things Sony's end, you are looking at two consoles neck and neck where it really DOES come down to software.

It was 9.xtf, bloody eons ago, and plans changed. They would be stupid to release a console of that spec NOW. No word on two consoles, and I'm taking no word as doesn't exist, because that's the sort of thing you mention.

As for those hoping for high end 12+, its still possible. Not right now though, doesn't look like its on the cards. 13+ is a pipedream and for it to happen you would be looking at a massive increase in not just bom but final retail cost, due to decreased yields/expensive cooling and a larger psu, amongst others.

One last thing, that I'm sure you are all wondering... I'm fine, thank you for asking. x

demigod demigod When did HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 mention the 5th? I sent evidence of it yesterday morning UK time, but hand on heart haven't been paying attention to what others have said. Hopefully, this Thursday some things will become a little more clear.
 
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demigod

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I will be hurt if that's what Johnny 5 was the date Gavin Stevens Gavin Stevens has heard, I was convinced it meant 5 is alive, meaning Sony are ready to go lol.

I guess I will deal with this hurt internally. :messenger_winking_tongue:

When did he say the 5th? I hope he’s not piggybacking from heisenberg’s date.

Edit: nm on this, just looked again and apparently it wasn’t heisenberg since he said he was banned on era, my apologies.
 
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SSfox

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Maybe he just want to hide some other informations in the image file?!
There could be a reasonable explanation :messenger_beaming:

Like what? A playboy magazine?


Welp a serious note, i suggest to mod to not ban Tommy, for now at least. If 13TF RDNA2 won't be a thing, then you can ban him. That's my actual thought on it.
 
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FeiRR

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I came here for the reve... Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem GIFs and all I saw was shopped photos.

So okay, I'll spill the beans. Here it is: my uncle's neighbour working for the waste removal company which has a contract with Sony found this in a dumpster. It's 9 TF no RT so they managed to squeeze it into this incredibly small form factor. As you can see, old-fashioned microUSB is still there but at least we're getting great WiFi signal through those antennas. The controller is there for comparison but expect something similar. A joint PasteBin/GitHub leak says they're going to be bought by this other company which rhymes with "hipster's loft". Please don't shoot the messenger.

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RookX22

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Where is the fun in that though man?!

Ok, so...

Date I've heard is March 5th for *something*. No I don't know what, other than it will be "interesting". I assume it could be AMD show related, and as this is from a guy more in line with PlayStation than Xbox, I would guess PS5 wise. It could be related to some new spec details though. While plans change due to the virus, I'm gonna hold him to that, as he's trustworthy. I would be very shocked if not, and he hasn't said anything to the contrary. After I posted some hints to this, suddenly everybody started posting about the AMD show and MS, so who the fuck knows. Maybe, maybe something else. Check the post history.

Info I've heard is relating to TF count will piss a lot of people off but oh well... Remember ages ago I mentioned they were trying to get to 11.5 and ran into a few thermal issues stopping them and were higher 10, then I was backed up by a few other people on that case that heats were a bit higher than they would like, so couldn't push any higher? Well, they fixed the thermals. The down side is that they are a bit more noisy now, the upside, is that the current TF clock his end, is currently 11.6. HOWEVER... There is talk that they may have to adjust the GPU profile if the heat isn't performing up to scratch. There are certain thresholds they don't want to go over, because more heat = more issues, obviously, so while the heat isn't an issue as such right now, they may have to drop the clock to reduce the noise. Now, a slight drop can create a large db reduction while being unnoticeable to everyday performance, so if they dropped it to lets say 11.5, or 11.4, you wouldn't exactly see anything ingame. This is the most up to date info I have, and its from a first party dev. Again, check my post history, most recently today and yesterday, for the 11.6. I'm sure I don't have to explain that 11.6 versus 12 is a god damn mirror image, and that once you factor in the better SSD and other things Sony's end, you are looking at two consoles neck and neck where it really DOES come down to software.

It was 9.xtf, bloody eons ago, and plans changed. They would be stupid to release a console of that spec NOW. No word on two consoles, and I'm taking no word as doesn't exist, because that's the sort of thing you mention.

As for those hoping for high end 12+, its still possible. Not right now though, doesn't look like its on the cards. 13+ is a pipedream and for it to happen you would be looking at a massive increase in not just bom but final retail cost, due to decreased yields/expensive cooling and a larger psu, amongst others.

One last thing, that I'm sure you are all wondering... I'm fine, thank you for asking. x

demigod demigod When did HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 mention the 5th? I sent evidence of it yesterday morning UK time, but hand on heart haven't been paying attention to what others have said. Hopefully, this Thursday some things will become a little more clear.
I am fine with this.
 

THE:MILKMAN

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so are we back to github and 9.2?.....if Tommy is really fake?

I don't think it will end up 9.2TF right now but I am starting to wonder with just how early (~ April 2019) the V dev kit went out combined with Klee's impressions of a game running on PS5 hardware that had impressive RT? Is it realistic that the V dev kit would have a RT equipped APU so long ago given the timeline of AMD RT dGPUs? I know Sony likely would get some jump but ~15-18 months?

And at this point I'm really questioning which insiders we can trust after Tommy's antics.
 
Is someone canceling him? I still follow Shinobi btw.

The individuals who would "cancel" others are so irrelevant to the conversation they should just be ignored. In thirty years a tiny percentage of them will wake up and realize how stupid they were. The rest of them will never change and live perpetually in a state of false outrage, still brainwashed by their masters. The whole "cancel culture" is nothing more than an effort of people who have no culture (because they are so politically correct) to try and find some sort of meaning in their life. But they won't find any. Because the very fundamentals of their philosphy kills brain cells a
Where is the fun in that though man?!

Ok, so...

Date I've heard is March 5th for *something*. No I don't know what, other than it will be "interesting". I assume it could be AMD show related, and as this is from a guy more in line with PlayStation than Xbox, I would guess PS5 wise. It could be related to some new spec details though. While plans change due to the virus, I'm gonna hold him to that, as he's trustworthy. I would be very shocked if not, and he hasn't said anything to the contrary. After I posted some hints to this, suddenly everybody started posting about the AMD show and MS, so who the fuck knows. Maybe, maybe something else. Check the post history.

Info I've heard is relating to TF count will piss a lot of people off but oh well... Remember ages ago I mentioned they were trying to get to 11.5 and ran into a few thermal issues stopping them and were higher 10, then I was backed up by a few other people on that case that heats were a bit higher than they would like, so couldn't push any higher? Well, they fixed the thermals. The down side is that they are a bit more noisy now, the upside, is that the current TF clock his end, is currently 11.6. HOWEVER... There is talk that they may have to adjust the GPU profile if the heat isn't performing up to scratch. There are certain thresholds they don't want to go over, because more heat = more issues, obviously, so while the heat isn't an issue as such right now, they may have to drop the clock to reduce the noise. Now, a slight drop can create a large db reduction while being unnoticeable to everyday performance, so if they dropped it to lets say 11.5, or 11.4, you wouldn't exactly see anything ingame. This is the most up to date info I have, and its from a first party dev. Again, check my post history, most recently today and yesterday, for the 11.6. I'm sure I don't have to explain that 11.6 versus 12 is a god damn mirror image, and that once you factor in the better SSD and other things Sony's end, you are looking at two consoles neck and neck where it really DOES come down to software.

It was 9.xtf, bloody eons ago, and plans changed. They would be stupid to release a console of that spec NOW. No word on two consoles, and I'm taking no word as doesn't exist, because that's the sort of thing you mention.

As for those hoping for high end 12+, its still possible. Not right now though, doesn't look like its on the cards. 13+ is a pipedream and for it to happen you would be looking at a massive increase in not just bom but final retail cost, due to decreased yields/expensive cooling and a larger psu, amongst others.

One last thing, that I'm sure you are all wondering... I'm fine, thank you for asking. x

demigod demigod When did HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 mention the 5th? I sent evidence of it yesterday morning UK time, but hand on heart haven't been paying attention to what others have said. Hopefully, this Thursday some things will become a little more clear.

Sony will not release a console that isn't at least 12TF. That would mean that it wasn't even twice the TF of the XBox One X. And it would not cost a fortune to produce a system with a thirteen TF GPU. Yes, if all the engineers at Sony were idiots and designed a chip with 36CU, it would be difficult. But with more CU it wouldn't require an insane cooling solution or a gigantic case.

Also, it would be stupid for them not to do whatever it takes to achieve at least 12.6TF so they could say their new system had three times the TF of the PS4 Pro.
 

ManaByte

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I don't think it will end up 9.2TF right now but I am starting to wonder with just how early (~ April 2019) the V dev kit went out combined with Klee's impressions of a game running on PS5 hardware that had impressive RT? Is it realistic that the V dev kit would have a RT equipped APU so long ago given the timeline of AMD RT dGPUs? I know Sony likely would get some jump but ~15-18 months?

And at this point I'm really questioning which insiders we can trust after Tommy's antics.

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I don't want to defend him too much.
But tell me, how do you make a small image like that without open and save it in an app like Photoshop?

It proves nothing...

the first legit leak of the controller will be the front side.
led design, usb-c etc.

please all fake insiders out there: dont even try again. its just too obvious.
 
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johnjohn

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The individuals who would "cancel" others are so irrelevant to the conversation they should just be ignored. In thirty years a tiny percentage of them will wake up and realize how stupid they were. The rest of them will never change and live perpetually in a state of false outrage, still brainwashed by their masters. The whole "cancel culture" is nothing more than an effort of people who have no culture (because they are so politically correct) to try and find some sort of meaning in their life. But they won't find any. Because the very fundamentals of their philosphy kills brain cells a


Sony will not release a console that isn't at least 12TF. That would mean that it wasn't even twice the TF of the XBox One X. And it would not cost a fortune to produce a system with a thirteen TF GPU. Yes, if all the engineers at Sony were idiots and designed a chip with 36CU, it would be difficult. But with more CU it wouldn't require an insane cooling solution or a gigantic case.

Also, it would be stupid for them not to do whatever it takes to achieve at least 12.6TF so they could say their new system had three times the TF of the PS4 Pro.
Why stop at just 3x the PS4 Pro? 10x sounds so much better.
 

PocoJoe

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I have said since I first time saw his posts that Tommy Fisher is obviously 100% scamming troll as everything in his "character" screams it.

But no, many people defended him as a legit insider :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Well, finally the truth is out by these photoshopped pics.

I hope that people whom believed in his obvious lies now admit that you people are way too naive and/or your IQ must be at the lowest 30% and you should not to try to talk about these things in any other level than you have understanding for, which isn't much. Or at least stop defending people that are called out as trolls.

Usually it is done by legit reasons.

It just baffles me that how the heck can people believe these trolls while they are so obviously fake that they should see it from the first post.

But I have always had some kind of "truth radar" as I have usually seen in less than a minute if someone is an asshole/trouble/liar etc.

And common thing is that usually in the end I am the one that were right and people still claim that they could not see it. Maybe it is a hint from the universe that you are bad at seeing trough people and should be more aware that there are people out there that just like to troll.

Well, it is one thing to believe these kind of liars, but it is much worse thing to believe them after someone with higher awareness and logical thinking warns about it.

What a shit show.

Maybe my words are bit harsh, but really which is worse, believing and defending some troll, or trying to talk some sense to people and some people are just so boneheaded that they should be called an idiots on daily basis until they really get it and stop to think about what they are capable of to understand.

I just hope that next gen will offer even 10 % of this madness as an entertainment value and that gen must be the best one yet.
 

XinTniX

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I don't understand why people watch streamers lol
I tried but stopped before 5s.
I think for the same motive that people spend hours at videogame forums lol, just another media.
I don't know if what he said is real, but he is a funny guy at least :)
 
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Gavin Stevens

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T tflopsmatter You’re thinking like a kid on a playground. Tf does NOT matter *as much as you think* because there are multiple parts to a machine to make it work to its fullest potential. Reaching a figure just to say you’re X of something else is utterly pointless to anything other than looking clean on paper.
 
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