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DeepEnigma
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First hand is a dev directly with a kit.
Second hand is a friend of a dev or journalist getting info from his source.
Third hand is the “witness” for the BS Trump Ukraine impeachment coup.
HawarMiran
Banned
But you described a sizeable part of the demo you saw. That already is enough for higher ups to know you are talking about THEIR game. so they would know of a leak
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
He seemed to take the bitch way out, so explain it.
chemical boy
Member
Well, what I understood from BG is that ps5 had better performance but xbsx was more powerful.
hardseppo
Member
PSA: All insiders are fake. Only believe in official statements from Jim and Phil or press-releases.
900 pages of this thread would probably not be there, if it wasn't for those attention-seeking "insiders". I believed in them and personally now I have enough.
Actually I am also mad at my myself for believing all this crap. Where is the event announcement?
PS: I personally think that PS5-Sphere design is sexy. I want it. There, I said it. At least I hope that is true.
900 pages of this thread would probably not be there, if it wasn't for those attention-seeking "insiders". I believed in them and personally now I have enough.
Actually I am also mad at my myself for believing all this crap. Where is the event announcement?
PS: I personally think that PS5-Sphere design is sexy. I want it. There, I said it. At least I hope that is true.
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
oi! No I blurted it all out earlier after the tommy fiasco. I didn’t feel like hinting anymore, that shit let us ALL down man.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
First hand info would be from a dev themselves posting here who have access to devkits and specs.
Second hand is basically your insiders like osiris and kleegamefan or reporters.
Third hand is Tommy Fisher's hand jerking us off.
SleepDoctor
Banned
Ohhhhh believe me there are geniuses here that would even celebrate a .05 higher as moral victory
CameFromNearFuture
Banned
First hand is a dev directly with a kit.
Second hand is a friend of a dev or journalist getting info from his source.
Third hand is the “witness” for the BS Trump Ukraine impeachment coup.
Fourth hand is that mysterious dude giving a call to
VFXVeteran
LED Guy?
Banned
Fun Fanboy
Banned
Photoshop it!
ethomaz
Banned
Yeap but we don't know how many CUs Xbox Series X have.
Neither the clock of the GPU for both Xbox Series X or GitHub.
Using memory clock to calc with the 56CUs the TFs is so wrong.
So Xbox Series X revealed specs did not confirm anything on GitHub because there is no related specs to compare.
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Tenka Musou
Banned
Not only that, but he specified the role of the person who was showing him the demo (think he said it was the art lead or something).
Kampfradler
Member
Here you go...
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
AMD has said PS5 has hardware ray tracing? The problem I have with this is he didn't strike me as all that confident about it. I know it might seem silly, but Microsoft and AMD have basically been screaming hardware ray tracing from the mountain tops for Xbox series X, whereas Sony so far...
Haha never saw this. He means likely 12-13 . Max point of 13.
1000% above 11
If you want to make it easy. Ps5 will fall between 12 and 13.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It’s not like the mods didn’t already tell you that, they just told you to save the pile on until he exposes himself.
Maybe he was a pet project?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Here you go...
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
AMD has said PS5 has hardware ray tracing? The problem I have with this is he didn't strike me as all that confident about it. I know it might seem silly, but Microsoft and AMD have basically been screaming hardware ray tracing from the mountain tops for Xbox series X, whereas Sony so far...www.neogaf.com
How convenient.
Especially the backup dancers, lol.
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That's fair but if we take some of those Navi efficiency curves into account. The sweet spot frequency with 56CUs would equate ~12TF.
Mr Moose
Member
People 100% believe it even though it contains errors.Here you go...
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
AMD has said PS5 has hardware ray tracing? The problem I have with this is he didn't strike me as all that confident about it. I know it might seem silly, but Microsoft and AMD have basically been screaming hardware ray tracing from the mountain tops for Xbox series X, whereas Sony so far...
ethomaz
Banned
That is not a explanation but a guess.Here you go...
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
AMD has said PS5 has hardware ray tracing? The problem I have with this is he didn't strike me as all that confident about it. I know it might seem silly, but Microsoft and AMD have basically been screaming hardware ray tracing from the mountain tops for Xbox series X, whereas Sony so far...
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And they “both can’t be in production at the same time”, but somehow both names are in there to be pulled.
ethomaz
Banned
That is true... if you assume the GitHub is right and Xbox One X 12TFs you can easily find the clock.
I'm just saying the 12TFs doesn't confirme the GitHub data.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
and does that make sense to you?
how can something more powerful offer worse performance?
its clear we need to learn from today and ignore everyone's riddles.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Misdirection:
the action or process of directing someone to the wrong place or in the wrong direction.
"the deliberate misdirection that had put me off the track"
Side note that studio has since closed to all media and tightened up ship. You can verify that on their press page if you can figure out which studio it was.
What I sent the mod was not tied to that company (based in California) but my exact location, (Not in California) who I was with and what I was doing. It is too exact to share as I also sent phone records. So no that will not be made public.
ethomaz
Banned
Performance is not related to GPU power only...
For example memory bandwidth play a big whole in performance so a 15TFs GPU can perform worst than a 14TFs just because the 14TFs has better memory bandwidth.
Now take in account CPU, SSD, memory, etc etc etc.
Plus the software side... the SDK, the API, etc.
It is perfectly possible to have more TFs and have less performance.
PS. I'm not saying PS5 have better performance with lower TFs... I'm just saying it is possible to that happen.
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Matreios Raven
Member
What does this mean?
JMB88
Neo Member
I think we have been given too much relevant information. Knowing that power is similary between the 2 things is enough.
Knowing absolutely all the specifications and features would take away all the surprise factor from the future announcement. And what's so funny about that?
And Tommy was predictable. People's problem is that they believe absolutely everything when they tell them what they want to hear.
That's why politicians are so successful...
Knowing absolutely all the specifications and features would take away all the surprise factor from the future announcement. And what's so funny about that?
And Tommy was predictable. People's problem is that they believe absolutely everything when they tell them what they want to hear.
That's why politicians are so successful...
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DJ12
Member
Come on now, while it's not looking good for Tommy, Heinsenberg was told by a SIE employee two or three weeks ago that the PS5 was 9.2 TFs, when it's 100% certain it isn't as BGs has stated many times now.
Tommy might be an unwitting partner in some more Sony based trolling.
I think at the very least, should he choice to, he should stick around until the reveal, if anything he's said is true, then you cannot really argue he's a legit insider in my opinion.
How convenient.
Especially the backup dancers, lol.
You are free to believe whatever. A day ago you were excusing Tommy Fisher after I provided you proof of his garbage trackrecord.
M.Night Shyamalan
Member
Thanks for this
OsirisBlack
.This thread moves way too fast. Could a kind individual/ Mod please add all that we have learned today and from BGs into the OP? (I apologize if it has already been done) Thanks.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Exactly.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
this theory never made sense to me. Why is a fucking intern grabbing data for both Arden and Oberon? There is NO way AMD is allowing that kind of cross talk between engineers, let alone giving access to fucking interns.Here you go...
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
AMD has said PS5 has hardware ray tracing? The problem I have with this is he didn't strike me as all that confident about it. I know it might seem silly, but Microsoft and AMD have basically been screaming hardware ray tracing from the mountain tops for Xbox series X, whereas Sony so far...
If it's a script pulling data then the script must have known the names of PS5 chips AND xbox chips. Why is he compiling all that stuff in one file? Who is he doing that for? the teams are separate. this is confidential stuff. if i was Sony, i would sue AMD for negligent behavior and charge this intern with corporate espionage.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You are free to believe whatever. A day ago you were excusing Tommy Fisher after I provided you proof of his garbage trackrecord.
I was playing devil’s advocate poking the conversation. Always been on the fence with him.
FeiRR
Banned
I know it's all fun but you all should realise the people involved aren't going to risk their careers for the sake of your entertainment. If we don't get any straight answers, just deal with it and don't worry. Your favourite brand operator will inform you beforehand about all the intricacies of the hardware you want to buy well ahead of the launch date.
Because it's your money into their pockets.
Because it's your money into their pockets.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
then why not say PS5 is more powerful? specs arent just GPU tflops. if the PS5 is doing everything else better like memory bandwidth, ssd speed and cpu speed then PS5 is the more powerful console.
ethomaz
Banned
Maybe because everybody keep asking the dam TFs numbers
It is the only think that matter here
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cuz it looks exactly identical I’m just guessing
icerock
Member
Most common explanation has been that, someone made an error.
Besides, while I don't think it is wise to hand wave the Github data, one shouldn't treat it as gospel either. To this date, no one can point out the total CU count on Oberon (iGPU) that was being tested there, unlike Arden. We know the 18WGP was marked as "Full chip result", which would imply 36 active CUs but how many were disabled?
There is no product from AMD out there which has 36/36 active CUs, so it had to be using an iGPU which has some redundant CUs. Most people assumed it was a 5700 chip where 4CUs had been disabled, and logically it makes sense too, given the yields, and previous iteration we saw sharing the same codename. But, at the the same time, who can confidently say, that it wasn't a bigger NAVI chip? It's not like, there weren't in existence at the time, given the same repo gave us details about Arden.
The data is very informative, but it doesn't give us full picture. Those who are saying it does, are just trying to connect different dots and filling their own ideas when there is a gap.
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SleepDoctor
Banned
People were just praising "Tommy" like he was a god. Even after the bullshit Feb reveal and not self banning himself.
Like I said tho, fanboys will go with anything that fits their narrative. I could probably make alt and say a couple things like "ps5 20tf lolz xbots fail" and a few "special" people here would run with it lol.
Matreios Raven
Member
Interesting. Wait. Do you have the quote from Heisenberg that a Sony employee told him PS5 was 9.2 TF?
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DJ12
Member
LOL, 5 hours of investor related powerpoints aimed at the guests on site.I'm looking forward to what AMD reveal on Thursday, if it goes ahead
Good luck with that pal. Investors don't care about how pretty something looks, they care how much money they are going to make from it.
As an example of what to expect, please look here:
Thats a previous event, this is the current one:
Please note only a speaker symbol near the webcast link, they aren't even broadcasting a video of the event.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The most logical explanation I’ve heard yet.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
to be clear, heisenberg was told ps5 was 9.5 tflops and we dont know if his source is from SIE.
geordiemp
Member
Agree its crazy an intern has all the data for 2 new next gen consoles in one file,. and he stores it where it can be seen, its crazy.
nikolino840
Member
LOL, 5 hours of investor related powerpoints aimed at the guests on site.
Good luck with that pal. Investors don't care about how pretty something looks, they care how much money they are going to make from it.
As an example of what to expect, please look here:
Thats a previous event, this is the current one:
Please note only a speaker symbol near the webcast link, they aren't even broadcasting a video of the event.
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Hawking Radiation
Member
The aim of that tweet is to mock the mods here and to make that mocking visible here on the forum. You've gone and accomplished that. Congrats, you're an idiot just like the person who posted the tweet.
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