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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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He could be

People have claimed his rumours are wrong all the time, yet his Series X prediction of this was spot on. There are zero other "insiders" who have claimed anything pinpoint like this. And those claims were from months ago.

12.1tf
RDNA 2
CU 52
GPU at 1.82ghz

After TGA reveal, WC article said it's 12 TF, Klee said "bingo" to someone who calculated TF for XSX at 12.1
 
I've looked through this thread and the other next-gen threads on the other site, and it seems like nobody really predicted 52 CUs at 1.82 GHz to get 12.1 TFs. Also with RDNA 2.

I'm going to laugh my ass off if Tommy Fisher somehow got both system specs correct, right on the nose. I honestly never believed in him, and I still don't, but holy fuck if he gets both of them right. lmfao

It was. Klee. See my previous post
 
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semicool

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Just a small prediction, but if the PS5 has more TF, then I'm going to think people are going to start running with the 25TF narrative.
I'm going to make a prediction, without knowing anything about the ps5 at all, most people are going to predict the ps5 has more TFs based on inconsistent, untrustworthy, incongruent "insider" misinformation and just pure hope. Me? I have no idea which but I do know Sony's said nothing and I predict most "insiders" have nothing.

Wait...that's come true already.
 
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TBiddy

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I'm not.

The thing is, people doubted or thought he was lying for very good reason (Picture being sent to mods as an example). But now it's he's trolling Sony fans.

You still haven't told who you're referring to that originally didn't believe him, but now believe he's trolling, thus it seems funny that you're accusing others of creating false narratives.

Narrative changed.
Before they doubted him.
Now they think he is trolling Sony.

Reasons.

But it is just one or two guys that posted that trolling ideia.

Who are "they"?
 
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ethomaz

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You're still missing half the equation:

So some Xbox fans who doubted Tommy before now believe he knew the Xbox specs
Narrative changed.
Before they doubted him.
Now they think he is trolling Sony.

Reasons.

But it is just one or two guys that posted that trolling ideia.
 
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Farrell55

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Found it.

MixterXmedia, MisterC and Blue looks to be all the same person.
He post as rbej on ERA too.


I remember years ago he has so called Interviews with people from the Industry (Dev's, hardware&Software engineers) on his site... it was so Hilarious 🤦‍♂️😂
Everyone with common Sense noticed that he was interviewing himself 😁 oh boy what a great Time it was, anyway Mr. X definitely has mental illness
 

chilichote

Member
I remember years ago he has so called Interviews with people from the Industry (Dev's, hardware&Software engineers) on his site... it was so Hilarious 🤦‍♂️😂
Everyone with common Sense noticed that he was interviewing himself 😁 oh boy what a great Time it was, anyway Mr. X definitely has mental illness
It must have been 2012/2013 - the good old "hidden GPU"-times 😅
 
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FERN

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I remember years ago he has so called Interviews with people from the Industry (Dev's, hardware&Software engineers) on his site... it was so Hilarious 🤦‍♂️😂
Everyone with common Sense noticed that he was interviewing himself 😁 oh boy what a great Time it was, anyway Mr. X definitely has mental illness
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Ilovemincecraft

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I don’t think Microsoft was aiming for 12TF in September 2019.Yes, anaconda did leak as 12TF but that was GCN days.Perhaps the early dev kits were aiming for around the 10?
 

DForce

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You still haven't told us who you're referring to, thus it seems funny that you're accusing others of creating false narratives.
Looks like you are.

I said they doubted him.
Doubting someone doesn't mean you think they're a complete liar, but it's clear that people were skeptical of his information or thought he was a complete liar after the picture was posted.

The point of my power is that people are saying he knew the specs of the XsX but he's trolling Sony fans. This can be true, but I thought it was funny that people were quick to jump to this conclusion.

I still doubt that Tommy's information was sourced, but I'm not saying that it was not.
 

TBiddy

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Looks like you are.

I said they doubted him.
Doubting someone doesn't mean you think they're a complete liar, but it's clear that people were skeptical of his information or thought he was a complete liar after the picture was posted.

The point of my power is that people are saying he knew the specs of the XsX but he's trolling Sony fans. This can be true, but I thought it was funny that people were quick to jump to this conclusion.

I still doubt that Tommy's information was sourced, but I'm not saying that it was not.

I'm still curious who you're talking about when you say "they" or "people". That's your false narrative, since you apparantly can't or won't back that statement up.

Users here in GAF... they posted few hours ago.

Again. Who? Saying shit like "they" or "users" is too easy.
 
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pawel86ck

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Digital Foundry has also talked about hardware decompression, so XSX will be far supperior than even much faster SDD on PC. Dealer has compared sea of thieves load times on his evo 970 3.5GB/s and XSX was still over 3x times faster (15 seconds on 970 vs 3-5 seconds on XSX).

Sony is probably also using hardware decompression so I dont want to know how they are going to port next gen games on PC without equally good SDD.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
I'm still curious who you're talking about when you say "they" or "people". That's your false narrative, since you apparantly can't or won't back that statement up.
I quoted statements. It's clear that one person was pro-xbox. The other? It's possible, but I'm not 100% sure. You can keep replying to me by trying to find some loophole to prove me wrong, but it's a narrative that people are going with.
 

StreetsofBeige

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After TGA reveal, WC article said it's 12 TF, Klee said "bingo" to someone who calculated TF for XSX at 12.1
Tommy was more accurate. He predicted the full spec. Klee is bingoing a totally different config that so happened to be around 12.1tf too.

anexanhume
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Dec 15, 2019
danrbg said:
DANTE ( XDK )

CPU: Custom AMD Zen 2 8C/16T @ 3.2GHz
GPU: Custom AMD Navi @ 1475MHz
MEMORY: 48GB GDDR6 @ 672GB/s
STORAGE: SSD 4TB NVMe @ 3GB/s
64 CUs is 12.083TF.



Kleegamefan

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Dec 16, 2019
anexanhume said:
64 CUs is 12.083TF.
Bingo
 

01011001

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So Gears 5 Ultra on RTX 2080TI = 80FPS
Gears 5 Ultra+ on Series X = 100FPS

VFXVeteran somewhere crying right now...

that performance was surprising to say the least. from what I understand they had 50% higher particle density and SS-RT lighting added ontop of the max PC settings... that all at 4K and 100fps is crazy and above what I expected to be honest.
because this is not optimized code, a dirty port from One X to Series X, and the SS-RT lighting didn't even use the RT hardware (not that it is that taxing but the RT hardware could have given them a few FPS more I guess)
 
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TBiddy

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I quoted statements. It's clear that one person was pro-xbox. The other? It's possible, but I'm not 100% sure. You can keep replying to me by trying to find some loophole to prove me wrong, but it's a narrative that people are going with.

I don't need a loophole. You specifically said that "some" used to doubt TF, but now the same people believe TF and thinks he's trolling Sony. You still haven't been able to tell who you're talking about, so I assume you made it up.

Here's the quote again:

"So some Xbox fans who doubted Tommy before now believe he knew the Xbox specs but are saying it's very possible that he is trolling Sony fans. "
 

Reindeer

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that performance was surprising to say the least. from what I understand they had 50% higher particle density and SS-RT lighting added ontop of the max PC settings... that all at 4K and 100fps is crazy and above what I expected to be honest.
because this is optimized code, a dirty port from One X to Series X, and the SS-RT lighting didn't even use the RT hardware (not that it is that taxing but the RT hardware could have given them a few FPS more I guess)
It shows 2 things:
1. RDNA2 efficiency and performance
2. Closed box gaming focused setup will outperform similar specd PCs comfortably, something VFX said is a myth smh.
 
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DForce

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I don't need a loophole. You specifically said that "some" used to doubt TF, but now the same people believe TF and thinks he's trolling Sony. You still haven't been able to tell who you're talking about, so I assume you made it up.

Here's the quote again:

"So some Xbox fans who doubted Tommy before now believe he knew the Xbox specs but are saying it's very possible that he is trolling Sony fans. "

I quoted two people mentioning he was trolling.

Just give it up, man. lol
 
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Three Jackdaws

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Sure, Tommy did get the numbers for the Series X right and maybe 13 TF for the PS5 was right at a certain point in time, months ago, it's likely Sony tuned the system and changed the numbers so PS5 can operate at optimal performance and not overheat. Might explain all the numbers lower than 13 we've been hearing from OsirisBlack (12.4) and Odium (11.6).
 

pawel86ck

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So Gears 5 Ultra on RTX 2080TI = 80FPS
Gears 5 Ultra+ on Series X = 100FPS

VFXVeteran somewhere crying right now...
That's a good one 👍. But remember Gears 5 on PC was using limited RT for certain ultra effects, and on XSX there are using HW RT to offload these demanding calculations (digital foundy has explained all of that in their video), so thats why game is running much faster now. Basically speaking Gears 5 is more potimized now than PC verison.
 

TBiddy

Member
I quoted two people mentioning he was trolling.

Just give it up, man. lol

It's getting obvious that you can't produce a simple example of a poster (yet alone multiple posters), that used to think that TF was a liar, but now all of the sudden thinks he's the shit and is trolling Sony-fans.

And that's why it's ironic when you start talking about false narratives.

It is too easy to not look the previous pages too?

If it is that easy, you could shut my mouth rather quickly, no? Feel free to post examples of this:

"Before they doubted him.
Now they think he is trolling Sony. "
 
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01011001

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That's a good one 👍. But remember Gears 5 on PC was using limited RT for certain ultra effects, and on XSX there are using HW RT to offload these demanding calculations (digital foundy has explained all of that in their video), so thats why game is running much faster now. Basically speaking Gears 5 is more potimized now than PC verison.

they specifically mentioned no RT hardware was used. they literally said it in the video that the RT lighting was not supported by the RT cores.
and the game ran at above PC Ultra with higher particle density and other enhancements. the raytraced global illumination is a new addition btw.
 
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