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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Evilms

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gullideckel said:
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dicator likes to be in lateral safety position
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this is not the first time.
 
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CobraXT said:
Its kinda strange people only talke only about the teraflop difference .. which is by itself is significant '' i still belevie the PS5 is a 9 TF mechine''
while ignoring other XSX hardware advantages like :
- 112GB/s higher mem bandwidth
- 3.1GPixels higher fillrate
- 58GTexels higher texture rate
Mark my words .. the XBX will be > 40 % faster
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Pixel fillrate is determined by the number of ROPs and the frequency. The PS5 has the same number of ROPs as the Series X, but a much much higher frequency.
So you're not quite right here.
 
geordiemp

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CobraXT said:
Its kinda strange people only talke only about the teraflop difference .. which is by itself is significant '' i still belevie the PS5 is a 9 TF mechine''
while ignoring other XSX hardware advantages like :
- 112GB/s higher mem bandwidth
- 3.1GPixels higher fillrate
- 58GTexels higher texture rate
Mark my words .. the XBX will be > 40 % faster
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Is that you Colbert ? tell us about smart delivert and VRS / PRT and blah blah

 
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Metroiddarks

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CobraXT said:
Its kinda strange people only talke only about the teraflop difference .. which is by itself is significant '' i still belevie the PS5 is a 9 TF mechine''
while ignoring other XSX hardware advantages like :
- 112GB/s higher mem bandwidth
- 3.1GPixels higher fillrate
- 58GTexels higher texture rate
Mark my words .. the XBX will be > 40 % faster
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Oh my God please that is guy is not a engineer or something which requires the use of math or even logic
 
MasterCornholio

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CobraXT said:
Its kinda strange people only talke only about the teraflop difference .. which is by itself is significant '' i still belevie the PS5 is a 9 TF mechine''
while ignoring other XSX hardware advantages like :
- 112GB/s higher mem bandwidth
- 3.1GPixels higher fillrate
- 58GTexels higher texture rate
Mark my words .. the XBX will be > 40 % faster
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So why did you take away 1.2 TFs from the system?
 
oldergamer

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BattleScar said:
Pixel fillrate is determined by the number of ROPs and the frequency. The PS5 has the same number of ROPs as the Series X, but a much much higher frequency.
So you're not quite right here.
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Where did MS or Sony list the ROP count? I don't recall seeing this officially.
 
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Sony incels strike again .. cannot wait until those consoles hit the market and see the DF analysis .. i already know what they will say by then .. ''SoNy eXcluSive GaMes Is The oNly ThinG ThAt MatteRs tO Me'' .. btw my main console this gen is ps4 .. but i am more excited for the XSX next gen ..
 
GianEnemyCrab

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CobraXT said:
Its kinda strange people only talke only about the teraflop difference .. which is by itself is significant '' i still belevie the PS5 is a 9 TF mechine''
while ignoring other XSX hardware advantages like :
- 112GB/s higher mem bandwidth
- 3.1GPixels higher fillrate
- 58GTexels higher texture rate
Mark my words .. the XBX will be > 40 % faster
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-112GB/s on only 10GB
-false, PS has higher GPU clock=higher fillrate
-false again, read above.

I also believe that a fat man dressed in red goes down the chimney every 25th of December, but that doesn't make it necessary true.
 
J_Gamer.exe

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One more funny thing from the fallout from that demo was this tweet.



As soon as that's clarified as RDNA2, if it really needed it, look at the comments underneath. Goalposts shifted...

Some of the easily led calling out ' I thought they said it was RDNA3'

Facepalm. No one ever said that. A few features borrowed from a future pipeline as has happened before and either PS5/XBox influences RDNA3 or RDNA 3 is know and some is used before it released. Is it that hard to fathom?
 
Gamernyc78

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CobraXT said:
Sony incels strike again .. cannot wait until those consoles hit the market and see the DF analysis .. i already know what they will say by then .. ''SoNy eXcluSive GaMes Is The oNly ThinG ThAt MatteRs tO Me'' .. btw my main console this gen is ps4 .. but i am more excited for the XSX next gen ..
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Joke will be on you and we will all laugh while you find yourself in tears playing recore 3 at 4k 😂😂😂😂
 
Jerm411

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CobraXT said:
Sony incels strike again .. cannot wait until those consoles hit the market and see the DF analysis .. i already know what they will say by then .. ''SoNy eXcluSive GaMes Is The oNly ThinG ThAt MatteRs tO Me'' .. btw my main console this gen is ps4 .. but i am more excited for the XSX next gen ..
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CobraXT said:
Its kinda strange people only talke only about the teraflop difference .. which is by itself is significant '' i still belevie the PS5 is a 9 TF mechine''
while ignoring other XSX hardware advantages like :
- 112GB/s higher mem bandwidth
- 3.1GPixels higher fillrate
- 58GTexels higher texture rate
Mark my words .. the XBX will be > 40 % faster
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Larryfox

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Sinthor said:
This is something that will require support from developers to make a reality, right? I mean, devs will have to uncouple their code or effectively make their games in chunks so that you can grab one part or another. So unless and until MS supports that kind of ability with their infrastructure, devs won't be able to do it with MS. I don't expect that would be a huge deal though, so if MS decides to support that, I'm sure they can.
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I don’t remember, was Sony talking about that feature in terms of it being a first party games only feature or were they saying every game will be done that way?
 
Andodalf

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Darius87 said:
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this dude is so weird to me... why there's crysis in that picture? placed like he's been workshiping this game? why crysis not something recent, like tomb raider? choose something new goddamit. :messenger_grinning_squinting: like wtf? i'm starting to doubt his mental health.
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It’s almost like crisis shrines have been a running joke in their vids of years!
 
LED Guy?

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CobraXT said:
Sony incels strike again .. cannot wait until those consoles hit the market and see the DF analysis .. i already know what they will say by then .. ''SoNy eXcluSive GaMes Is The oNly ThinG ThAt MatteRs tO Me'' .. btw my main console this gen is ps4 .. but i am more excited for the XSX next gen ..
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Hmm....what do you guys think? Is he....

TimDog?
Colbert?
Colteastwood?
CyberPanda?
Spechal Ed?
Klobrille?
ProElite?
Blueisviolet?
Hmqgg?
Fatal Engima?
MisterXMedia?
Maybe Alex Battaglia? (I wouldn’t be surprised 🤣😂😂).

Hmm....so many Xbox fanboys to choose from. 😂😂😂
 
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sircaw

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CobraXT said:
Sony incels strike again .. cannot wait until those consoles hit the market and see the DF analysis .. i already know what they will say by then .. ''SoNy eXcluSive GaMes Is The oNly ThinG ThAt MatteRs tO Me'' .. btw my main console this gen is ps4 .. but i am more excited for the XSX next gen ..
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I'll bite

If you owned a ps4 last generation as your main console why would you be so excited by Microsoft this generation.
Sony delivered one of the greatest generations in terms of games, its the reason they have sold over 100 million units.

Did that disappoint you, why would you be so intent on jumping ship to a company that let their games dry up towards the end of the generation. What has got you so interested in Microsoft this generation, is it their advertising of late. Please don't tell me it was those game reveals you saw a week back. Please don't let it be that.

I am sure Microsoft will have a lot to offer when they show their first party exclusives but for the love of God don't just pick Microsoft because its got 12 Tflops. Ps5 will have a proven Track record, they delivered the games.

You are a Gamer right, not some crazy fetish person getting of on rubbing yourself up some piece of hardware tech.
 
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BadBreathOfTheWild

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Nikana said:
I think anyone calling him a liar is a bit extreme but just reading a ton of posts here it seems like some take him as this visionary of tech and don't see him as a face of company trying to sell an engine.

Sweeny has always talked a big game but I have seen this man talk since the original unreal. Hes extremely good at being vauge and making things sound like they are exponentially mind blowing and only possible with Unreal. Which is flat out false. But he's very good at making people believe Unreal is the only option. Which is his main job.

But Unreal has had some real growing pains especially during the UE3 era when more and more games started to use it. In my opinion it exposed a lot of Sweeny.

I always was skeptical of him and some called him a John Carmack which always made me roll my eyes. Maybe it's because I am Doom fanboy buy I never put those two in the same category in terms of skill and passion.

Long winded way of saying I am floored so many people here are latching onto his words like they aren't being manipulated by a sales pitch.
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He's no clown, but I agree that Carmack was on another level.
 
DeepEnigma

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Darius87 said:
tybNrIt.png

this dude is so weird to me... why there's crysis in that picture? placed like he's been workshiping this game? why crysis not something recent, like tomb raider? choose something new goddamit. :messenger_grinning_squinting: like wtf? i'm starting to doubt his mental health.
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Maybe he’s reminiscing of the time where a retail game was actually built with the high end PC’s in mind first.

Things haven’t been the same since.
 
Handy Fake

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CobraXT said:
Sony incels strike again .. cannot wait until those consoles hit the market and see the DF analysis .. i already know what they will say by then .. ''SoNy eXcluSive GaMes Is The oNly ThinG ThAt MatteRs tO Me'' .. btw my main console this gen is ps4 .. but i am more excited for the XSX next gen ..
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Posts to wind up Sony fans.
Has meltdown in second and probably final post.

That's quite some going.
 
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CobraXT

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sircaw said:
If you owned a ps4 last generation as your main console why would you be so excited by Microsoft this generation.
Sony delivered one of the greatest generations in terms of games, its the reason they have sold over 100 million units.

Did that disappoint you, why would be so intent on jumping ship to a company that let their games dry up towards the end of the generation. What has got you so interested in Microsoft this generation, is it their advertising of late. Please don't tell me it was those game reveals you saw a week back. Please don't let it be that.

I am sure Microsoft will have a lot to offer when they show their first party exclusives but for the love of God don't just pick Microsoft because its got 12 Tflops. Ps5 have a proven Track record, they delivered the games.

You are a Gamer right, not some crazy fetish person getting of on rubbing yourself up some piece of hardware type.
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tbh i dont care about all sony exclusives .. i don't like uncharted-last of us-horizon-days gone-GT-not even god of war 2018 which is nothing like the older ''and better'' games .. the only games i care about are the japaness third party exclusives like nioh/bloodborn .. i have faith in the xbox harware team because they delivered a better console with the x1x not only power wise .. but their solution for enhancing the base xbox 1 games is far better then the ps4 pro .. i also believe ps5 will have problems with BC .. i haven't decided yet which console i will buy and i am open to options .. + i think the XSX will be much faster console + will have fresh new exclusive games
 
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sircaw

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CobraXT said:
tbh i dont care about all sony exclusives .. i don't like uncharted-last of us-horizon-days gone-GT-not even god of war 2018 witch is nothing like the older ''and better'' games .. the only games i care about are the japaness third party exclusives like nioh/bloodborn .. i have faith in the xbox harware team because they delivered a better console with the x1x not only power wise .. but their solution for enhancing the base xbox 1 games is far better then the ps4 pro .. i also believe ps5 will have problems with BC .. i haven't decided yet which console i will buy and i am open to options .. + i think the XSX will be much
faster console + will have fresh new exclusive games
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Would you not be tempted by the Demon souls remake. What about Bloodborn at 60 fps. For a person that likes souls games those would be two massive games that you would/could possible miss out on.

I know its a long shot, and as I am also a Rabid fan of bloodborne , what if they release a trailer of bloodborn 2, would that be enough to seal the deal for you.

All i am is saying, is be careful in reading into to much marketing hype, no disrespect to Microsoft but they are the kings of bullshit sometimes.

Play the games you like but i suggest next time don't make a post saying Sony incels Strike again. as your opening remark,

Its not a good way to start a chat.
 
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geordiemp

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Handy Fake said:
Posts to wind up Sony fans.
Has meltdown in second and probably final post.

That's quite some going.
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Leave him alone, he is entitled to his views, as long as he is not slaming anyone personally, there is no issue.

I quote liked timdog, he gave me a laugh in a way, and was fun to poke.
 
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HAL-01

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CobraXT said:
tbh i dont care about all sony exclusives .. i don't like uncharted-last of us-horizon-days gone-GT-not even god of war 2018 which is nothing like the older ''and better'' games .. the only games i care about are the japaness third party exclusives like nioh/bloodborn .. i have faith in the xbox harware team because they delivered a better console with the x1x not only power wise .. but their solution for enhancing the base xbox 1 games is far better then the ps4 pro .. i also believe ps5 will have problems with BC .. i haven't decided yet which console i will buy and i am open to options .. + i think the XSX will be much faster console + will have fresh new exclusive games
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excessive ellipses, random spelling errors throughout, why does this read like the ramblings of a serial killer
 
geordiemp

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CobraXT said:
tbh i dont care about all sony exclusives .. i don't like uncharted-last of us-horizon-days gone-GT-not even god of war 2018 which is nothing like the older ''and better'' games .. the only games i care about are the japaness third party exclusives like nioh/bloodborn .. i have faith in the xbox harware team because they delivered a better console with the x1x not only power wise .. but their solution for enhancing the base xbox 1 games is far better then the ps4 pro .. i also believe ps5 will have problems with BC .. i haven't decided yet which console i will buy and i am open to options .. + i think the XSX will be much faster console + will have fresh new exclusive games
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Yeah I am now convinced I have turned to XSX with such a valid strong argument, what can I say. I have seen the light.

Thank you for your technical appriasal and worthy contribution.

I have learned so much, thank you again. I am just taking notes.....

I to was undecided in hardware - then I read this post and wham !

 
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Metroiddarks

Metroiddarks

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HGamer said:
Hmm....what do you guys think? Is he....

TimDog?
Colbert?
Colteastwood?
CyberPanda?
Spechal Ed?
Klobrille?
ProElite?
Blueisviolet?
Hmqgg?
Fatal Engima?
MisterXMedia?
Maybe Alex Battaglia? (I wouldn’t be surprised 🤣😂😂).

Hmm....so many Xbox fanboys to choose from. 😂😂😂
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TimDog? probably
Colbert? he is fanboy but is not stupid
Colteastwood? not very likely, him already should has an account or more
CyberPanda? doesn't talk like him
Spechal Ed? not idea who is
Klobrille?not so smart as Colbert but he can do math
ProElite? probably
Blueisviolet? almost sure
Hmqgg? not
Fatal Engima?not idea who is
MisterXMedia? almost sure
Maybe Alex Battaglia? (I wouldn’t be surprised 🤣😂😂). he didn't mention pc ..... he is not
 
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GermanZepp

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Nickolaidas said:
Except that resolution and framerate do not change gameplay. Asset loading can affect the speed a character runs in the game world. In a Series X game, the Flash would need to run slower because the Series X won't be able to load the assets in the same speed the PS5 could. As a result, the devs are forced to limit the Flash's running speed in the PS5 because the Series X won't be able to keep up. You can't have the Flash run through a city in five seconds in the PS5 and fifteen seconds in the Series X. The Series X owners would complain of a lesser experience.

Ergo, the asset loading speeds of the PS5 would not be fully used because the game would need to have equal gameplay mechanics in both versions.

That's what I mean when I say that multiplat games won't be able to fully utilize the PS5's speed.
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First,

^^^Except that resolution and framerate do not change gameplay.^^

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Some folks with PCs here would disagree on that framerate thing for sure.

Second, why a developer would make a game about the flash and gimp the speed cause other platforms can't keep up?

In any case they gonna slowdown those versions that can't keep up. Taking advantage of a feature is that, take advantage. Is easier not harder.


^^The Series X owners would complain of a lesser experience.^^

So what.

^^Ergo, the asset loading speeds of the PS5 would not be fully used because the game would need to have equal gameplay mechanics in both versions.^^

Let me tell you this, the amount of situations in which we have seen what appears to be some kind of 'forced" parity is by far, FAR less than the times we see differences between games.

And, you don't gimp a game that hugely benefits from the key feature of a system., but we will see I guess.

And to finish this, if any 'ergo", third partys, 'ergo' don't use the fastest SSD in the market, please go tell Sony that they wasted time in r&d and probably a lot of money for no reason cause 95% and the games don't gonna fully utilize the speed.
 
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LED Guy?

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OK guys, forget about the comment I made about the Xbox Era Discord thing, apparently it is an old screenshot that someone sent to me and I thought it was new.
 
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