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geordiemp
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McHuj
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Ok, I'm dying here. well done
Dave_at_Home
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I remember seeing some clouds popping in when Master Chief went up an elevator. Whatever. It's clearly not an issue with Series X SSD, but that of being built on Xbox One legacy foundation. People reading way too much into this. All this will probably be "cleaned up" before release.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
They didn't show a big battle, that doesn't mean there won't be any.
We had those on the OG XBox... why wouldn't the Xbox One be able to pull them off?
Jaguar CPU is garbage but it's still capable of fun FPS games.
Dave_at_Home
Member
This is killing me.25 TF RTX ENABLED
VRS
VELOCITY
less talking, more showing
Nickolaidas
Member
Okay. Jokes aside.
Phil, MS, don't know who ... 343 IS A TERRIBLE DEV CHOICE FOR YOUR FLAGSHIP TITLE. YOU SHOULD HAVE USED THAT 500 MILLION TO BUY BUNGIE AND END THIS SHAME.
Phil, MS, don't know who ... 343 IS A TERRIBLE DEV CHOICE FOR YOUR FLAGSHIP TITLE. YOU SHOULD HAVE USED THAT 500 MILLION TO BUY BUNGIE AND END THIS SHAME.
Knitted Knight
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Setsuna Mudou
Member
Who was that clown that looking at the TFLOP count of the XSX vs PS5 expected 40+% resolution and frame rate advantage to the XSX saying it was just maths? That didn't age well.Because 1.8 Tflops is greater than 12
Nevermind the 25TFLOP calculation w ray tracing...
Nickolaidas
Member
Oh, man ... those memes are killing me!! We may have gotten the shittiest Halo ever, but at least we got good, REALLY good memes!!
J_Gamer.exe
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If DF don't go in hard on halo in particular then somethings up. Richard also says he hates trailer after trailer type reveals and this was in step with that.
A lot to analyse....
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
At the end of the day that's what gaming is all about
ArcaneNLSC
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That Slipspace engine more slititsneck engine its already dated by 2-3 generations
Knitted Knight
Banned
There has always been something up. He has a preference and caps for it. But he's smart, he's not Dealer/Eastwood type of stupid. He will do his job.
When I saw that I almost had a heart attack. I thought Klei was making an exclusive game for XboxI think their atomic-bomb-lineup machine just broke up
that's what MS fans should do with Aaron and Phil
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Faithless83
Banned
J_Gamer.exe
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geordiemp
Member
Love your avatar, you killing me
Hobbygaming
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There is so much crow to be served that crows could go extinct
So many 1.5 RDNA comments, 9.2 Tflop comments
Hopefully they learned a valuable lesson
LED Guy?
Banned
Oh wow, Halo Infinite looked straight up mediocre in terms of graphics and enemy AI/animations and just overall technological sophistication, I feel like Microsoft ain't about that life anymore, and it sucks to see it, it looks and feels so outdated compared to games like Ghost of Tsushima, RDR 2 and especially the masterpiece aka The Last of Us Part 2.
It feels like a generation behind, so much for Xbox Series X and their all new "Slip Space" engine and how Xbox One "won't hold back" even though it looks like an average current-gen game.
It feels like a generation behind, so much for Xbox Series X and their all new "Slip Space" engine and how Xbox One "won't hold back" even though it looks like an average current-gen game.
This would have been a hype example of a decent Xbox conference.
Halo Infinite conference opening with actual good graphics.
Everwild gameplay shown we find out basic things like what genre this game is. See a bit of the gameplay loop.
Obsidian RPG shown, similar to the trailer but you see a giant monster, graphics are mind blowing, gameplay of spell effect, different weapons, graphics are super detailed best looking WRPG graphically
Fable shown, graphics are mind blowing looks like a a much more detailed Witcher 3 in terms of graphics, walking through a bustling town with a ton of NPCs and detailed, travelling on horseback in a open field with a a massive detailed draw distance.
Instead what do we get, CG trailers and Halo Infinite which looks like a last gen game. Majority of these games are so far off, coming from a company that has promised they will improve their first party why should we trust them. They promised ReCore a new IP from markers of Metroid Prime, turned out crap, we seen CG trailer of Phantom Dust, turned out it was not real. This ain't the time to show CG trailers this is the time to show gameplay. When Sony first showed off Horizon and Ghost of Tsushima I was blown away by the new IP setting and the graphics as they showed gameplay straight away, I assumed Microsoft would deliver the goods similar to those showings like Sony did in the past.
This was Microsofts time to show not tell, why shall I trust Microsoft without gameplay, we don't know the scope of those games, we don't even know the genre of Everwild etc.
Atleast this cemented that I will be going for a PS5, to be honest I was always leaning towards PS5 as I have enjoyed Sony exclusive this gen, and Microsoft has missed their chance to sway me.
Halo Infinite conference opening with actual good graphics.
Everwild gameplay shown we find out basic things like what genre this game is. See a bit of the gameplay loop.
Obsidian RPG shown, similar to the trailer but you see a giant monster, graphics are mind blowing, gameplay of spell effect, different weapons, graphics are super detailed best looking WRPG graphically
Fable shown, graphics are mind blowing looks like a a much more detailed Witcher 3 in terms of graphics, walking through a bustling town with a ton of NPCs and detailed, travelling on horseback in a open field with a a massive detailed draw distance.
Instead what do we get, CG trailers and Halo Infinite which looks like a last gen game. Majority of these games are so far off, coming from a company that has promised they will improve their first party why should we trust them. They promised ReCore a new IP from markers of Metroid Prime, turned out crap, we seen CG trailer of Phantom Dust, turned out it was not real. This ain't the time to show CG trailers this is the time to show gameplay. When Sony first showed off Horizon and Ghost of Tsushima I was blown away by the new IP setting and the graphics as they showed gameplay straight away, I assumed Microsoft would deliver the goods similar to those showings like Sony did in the past.
This was Microsofts time to show not tell, why shall I trust Microsoft without gameplay, we don't know the scope of those games, we don't even know the genre of Everwild etc.
Atleast this cemented that I will be going for a PS5, to be honest I was always leaning towards PS5 as I have enjoyed Sony exclusive this gen, and Microsoft has missed their chance to sway me.
bitbydeath
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SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Disingenuous bullshit in this thread is nothing new.
And H:I is still an xbone game regardless of Microsofts marketing.
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EliteSmurf
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ArcaneNLSC
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What do Microsoft do if Halo Infinite bombs not just visually but story/quality and in reviews does Microsoft have to hand the reigns of Halo to another studio because 343i hasn't been able to really deliver since getting the Halo license
Jack Videogames
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Setsuna Mudou
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Best case scenario, lessons are learnt. TFLOPS alone != how a machine performs.
If I had to guess there's a mix of some bottlenecks on the hardware, severe limitations by the game having to run on low spec 7 year old hardware and gross incompetence of the development team.
I see now what Phil meant by saying Sony wasn't their competitor next gen.
B_Boss
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marvifrom
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You can see here how the velocity architecture is at work pushing that ssd to a Raw 12GB/s.tree_image_144p.jpeg
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zaitsu
Banned
Disingenuous bullshit in this thread is nothing new.
And H:I is still an xbone game regardless of Microsofts marketing.
splattered
Member
I don't think this has anything to do with being held back by older hardware as much as not having strong leadership within 343 with a single cohesive vision driving the project forward.
We don't know how much money was actually spent on this game but jesus it feels like a bunch of different slices of development hell slapped together.
Not going to lie, this has been my biggest disappointment in gaming in probably forever.
We don't know how much money was actually spent on this game but jesus it feels like a bunch of different slices of development hell slapped together.
Not going to lie, this has been my biggest disappointment in gaming in probably forever.
geordiemp
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Entroyp
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You can see here how the velocity architecture is at work pushing that ssd to a Raw 12GB/s.
I though it would be up to 30GB/s by now.
Ass of Can Whooping
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sircaw
Banned
Surely Phil Spencer would of watched the demo before hand and said fuck me we can't open with it looking like that.
Better of to postpone it a few weeks to try iron out some of the kinks, ok forget iron, steamroller.
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Hobbygaming
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That sounds right and I wouldn't be surprised if part of it is the 52 CUs as it's harder to provide that many CUs with workload and when they don't have work, they might as well be disabled
MS might get better at utilizing them in the future but it's harder
Nickolaidas
Member
Now that you mention it, wasn't there a rumor that Infinite was going through some major development difficulties? Could it be possible that the game previously looked even WORSE than this and was scrapped?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Are these really CG trailers?
They learned nothing from Sony's infamous E3 2005 showing? After all this time bigging up their conference and they couldnt even make realtime trailers?
Didnt Phil take the piss out of Sony's e3 cancellation by saying they are going full steam ahead for the E3 showing. Well he was two months late to his party and brought CG trailers? Surely they are at least ingame like the hellblade trailer.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
It's pretty shocking that they didn't have a single 8 minute area with more polish.
There's pretty much no way it's any better at launch, if the game has any sort of scale.. if that's the best they could show graphically.
I feel bad for you graphics whores lol.. I do enjoy stopping and enjoying beautiful games, but it honestly doesn't bother me that much what I saw from Halo. But it is sort of objectively embarrassing compared to competition. Still think that in motion a lot of what is being pointed out wasn't super noticable.. it's to some extent people taking screenshots and looking at backgrounds you wouldn't be paying attention to during gameplay.
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Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
I think the showcase did a terrible job of showing games that would not look as good on a PS5, but a decent job of showing enough games that won't come to PS5 (or will come much later) to make them relevant.
My main concern is when are these games coming out, no dates on most of them. Also the best graphical showcases were third party games.
I'm still looking forward to getting my XSX but I think the thing they were selling here is gamepass.
My main concern is when are these games coming out, no dates on most of them. Also the best graphical showcases were third party games.
I'm still looking forward to getting my XSX but I think the thing they were selling here is gamepass.
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sircaw
Banned
yer something is really up with the quality of that studio.
I don't know where they go from here. if these are the issues that are being showed in a presentation for you next console system, i hate to think about the parts we can't not see.
I have a feeling its going to get a delay this year.
Nickolaidas
Member
I most certainly hope so.
I mean ... it's Halo.
It's HALO!
It deserves better. Much better.
Hobbygaming
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Its interesting to compare different models. Here's a gameplay model
Disingenuous bullshit in this thread is nothing new.
And H:I is still an xbone game regardless of Microsofts marketing.
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