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THE COALITION MOVING TO NEXT-GEN DEVELOPMENT, UNREAL ENGINE 5
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Superior to the Marble Demo? ok.
And The Marble Demo is not using 22GB/s of the IO also. Or Metro Enhanced. So should we expect that pc games will push graphics much further then Marble when DX Storage and RTX IO cames?
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Negotiator101
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Theoretical.
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
then in the reality we got old gen third party games that can't keep a steady fps or first party that need to internally render at 1080p and upscale.......the gpu guys....the gpu
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S0ULZB0URNE
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*Screeches from mother's basement while feverishly itching neckbeard*
"But....But unreal engine 5 is exclusive!"
Danny boy don't you know that's a stereotypical PCMR picture?
sircaw
Banned
Give it a rest Meril.
The xbox console will be able to play that exact ps5 demo unreal engine demo just with inferior settings, you need to accept that.
End of story.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
and it's AMAZING!I still play Gears 5 MP.
And at 120fps on the XSX it's:
Negotiator101
Member
Well both consoles have their strengths and weaknesses but just posting numbers which are theoretically correct but far from proven in a gaming situation is pure folly.
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
Not gonna lie, but if I was as triggered as you get in these kinda threads, id understand your sentiment. But too bad, I don't. Btw I looked up console warrior, ironically it was the first meme that popped up. Ironic huh?Danny boy don't you know that's a stereotypical PCMR picture?
Ass of Can Whooping
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Didn't take long for the thread to go the shitter and it's all your fault lol
sure that 22gb/s are flexing
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
I'm all for discussion. Too bad a certain group of "crips" constantly bumbard the thread. I didn't come in here discussing SSD or ps5. That was your folks.
Ue5 is not synonymous with a certain platform. It's available to all hardware. It's not gonna run worse on more performant hardware. Gpu=/=SSD. But carry on..
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
The second post in the thread was by you and already set of the derailment
Lets call a spade a spade yeah?
sircaw
Banned
Don't forget the fifth or sixth post by manabluebyte or what his name was, the one that got deleted by the mods, the one I called disingenuous.
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DonJuanSchlong
Banned
I'm not sure how that derailed the thread? I just called a spade, a spade is all. Several people were under the impression UE5 was exclusive to a certain platform, and no one else. Which couldn't be further from the truth. But I guess a certain group of people felt the need to respond emotionally to my post, which I didn't even mention ps5. Why not blame the posters that responded? That's like blaming your g/f's b/f for cheating on you. He didn't know y'all are together. Long story short, don't blame me.
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
And fucking brutal for irregular players
systemr123
Banned
Ypu
You can see the proof already with games like Ratchet and Clank, Demon Souls and Returnal. There is not a single game on any other platform that comes close to the level of detail and loading speeds as those ones. Besides that, they are not even use UE5 or other highly optimized engines yet to stream in the data as it is supposed to. I’m sure you will be blown away how games will look a few years from now. Your point of criticism on Sweeney, I don’t know if it’s valid. Last generation they showed a UE4 demo that everyone said would never be reached graphically, yet almost every game looks better than that demo now. I believe games can look at least as good as the UE5 demo on ps5, but it all depends on budget of the developers. It must be a huge money sink to create such detailed assets for everything.So just like I've been asking others in the thread, can you provide data throughput, latency, etc of the demo for UE5? Because that might be a critical error in your thinking, as you believe in something you don't have factual data on. This ain't Sweeney first shilling rodeo for consoles, and I don't think this is his last one.
It's odd you say PC cannot do those things that ps5 SSD can do, yet it has better performance on every single game in existence on both performs. You can say is because there are no games built for it, but there is also no proof from you, nor others as to what asset streaming speeds you need for the demo, why ps5 has framedrops with it's uber fast SSD, etc.
I just hope everyone has their expectations set, so when they realize SSD=/=GPU, SSD=/=second gpu, SSD can't bypass the GPU, therefore GPU doesn't have to render a scene. You can't just throw data at the GPU, and expect "fast ssd=fast rendering". If you believe you can do this, then....
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
I'm not sure why y'all think that's not possible on xsx, or PC for that matter. I'm not sure why y'all need to boost yourselves up, just to get let down? It happens every single generation. Let people have their fun, and curb your expectations. I'm sure you already been hurt from every benchmark of this year. And before you respond with some weird blow to Xbox, just know that I'm a PC gamer. So idgaf about console wars.
Ue5 is possible on all consoles. Can't wait to see what the next game in store brings. Hopefully they don't try to amp up SSD and make it into a game with stupid gimmicks that don't help with immersion of the games.
Those 28 xbox diehards who will like anything remotely anti-Sony fans? I'll pass, I'll keep my brain cells.
Cherry Sonoshee
Banned
Ok.
Graphics and tech have never been a problem with them. Gears 4 and 5 look and run amazing on all Xbox consoles.
They just feel stale as actual games.
Graphics and tech have never been a problem with them. Gears 4 and 5 look and run amazing on all Xbox consoles.
They just feel stale as actual games.
systemr123
Banned
Theoretical, and probably not a constant speed, but probably often enough to be useful in a lot of situations. 22
im sure Demons Souls will work
with much more ram so you don’t have to stream in so much, but reloading after dying will not be as quick. Ratchet and Clank is easily to see why it’s impossible on other devices the way it works, sure if you don’t need the near instant level changing then also you can show the same things on other devices.
The point is that the way it is done now, can not be done on other devices in the same speed, which transforms gameplay feel. It really feels like you are playing cartridge based games again which is just too good.
Just so you all know, I’m not a PS fanboy, just being realistic here. I actually spend most of my time playing pc games because I like management games and simulations and consoles are severely lacking with game selection on that area.
I also own or owned nearly every imaginable console except for Xbox One, and XSX. I did not buy the XSX not because the console is not good but because you can literally play every game released on that platform on either PC or PlayStation.
pasterpl
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flight simulator 2020 - level of detail, loading speeds I think that re8 actually loads faster on ps5 than titles you Have listed
And you know this how?
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
No one has said UE5 was exclusive to a certain platform. They didn't back then, and they didn't in this thread.
Lets just agree to call the platform you were talking about the PS5. You know it. I know it. No point trying to hide it.
I'll give all the posters who responded to you a slap on the wrist, but you my friend, the instigator, deserve a spanking on the butt
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Oh no. How dare you people discuss Unreal Engine on a Unreal Engine thread...
I like this kind of communication from a studio.
"Here's what we've been doing, this is what we're doing now (switching engines), and here's when you can expect to see a new reveal from us (not for years)."
It means that people won't get upset at e3, and when fans say "Hey, what's X dev up to" others can just say "see this quote" and that settles it. More devs should be this open about where they're at in the dev cycle.
"Here's what we've been doing, this is what we're doing now (switching engines), and here's when you can expect to see a new reveal from us (not for years)."
It means that people won't get upset at e3, and when fans say "Hey, what's X dev up to" others can just say "see this quote" and that settles it. More devs should be this open about where they're at in the dev cycle.
systemr123
Banned
Does FS2020 load in 2 to 4 seconds? But yes, it’s a beautiful game. That’s also what I mentioned, sure there can be more beautiful looking games for now, but in combination with the load speeds etc there are no comparisons is what I mentioned. Good point about RE8, you can see how much faster it loads on ps5 than anywhere else and that’s not even optimized yet, using an old engine.
Codes 208
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This wasn’t meant to be a thread about unreal itself but how a developer has swapped up to the new engine and then it immediately got derailed into another console warring thread.
pretty much the status quo these days.
technically speaking this should be a Gears thread.
Ass of Can Whooping
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If the thread was actually a stealth thread to complain about some boogieboys who claimed UE5 would be exclusive to PS5 then I do apologise, but I'd recommend a title change
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SlimeGooGoo
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S0ULZB0URNE
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You can't help yourself to troll with all of your console butt hurt insecurities. At least most of the PC gamers i know game on all devices and usually have a Switch and the latest PlayStation on the side... but you are dedicated!
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DonJuanSchlong
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Have a switch actually, not a "PCMR" fan, etc. At least get one thing right about me. It's easier and less fatiguing to play my games on PC. Does anyone own a high end gun, but prefer to carry a highpoint for personal protection/carry? Didn't think so.
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bitbydeath
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That was debunked.Hardware & Tech News - OC3D.net
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
You are worse than a typical PCMR fan.
To the last part of your post... PS5 shoot's a sexier and faster bullet out of a better,more popular gun.
The Hamburglar
Banned
I wanna see receipts. Nobody on gaf has said this engine is exclusive to ps5. Sounds like you were playing the victim with made up facts.
yes by Sweeney.with an embarrassing excuse..who i don't trust not even a bit. so no not for me. As if he had never lied. in any case, everyone is free to think as he wants
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DonJuanSchlong
Banned
Again, not PCMR. Can't say that you aren't the biggest console warrior though. Keep it up though. Pretty sure theres some rich person somewhere, who'd prefer to be a console warrior like you at the end of the day. Again, keep on reaching, and you'll get there. Anything else to add to the topic at hand on the other hand? If not, you can ignore or stop quoting me, before you give yourself a heart attack.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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I am a actual multi-format gamer who's been doing this for a long time and can read your type like a book.
You added what exactly to the topic?
You can ignore me if need be.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Gears will come to XSX and PC so how both platforms will perform with the engine matters.
ethomaz
Banned
Because 3rd-party uses it to develop on PS5.
Plus Epic is doing optimizations code path to take use of PS5 arch.
They are options to devs.
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bitbydeath
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Do you really believe it could run on a laptop when the NVIDIA marble demo barely runs on a 3080?
Dr Bass
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Sweeney pointing out the laptop was playing a video and not the actual demo is an "embarrassing excuse" in your book?
Wtf qualifies as a "reason" then?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I think we will see much more benefits with the PS5 only games using it.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Well they have Gears and are helping with Halo Infinite now.
Probably Gears 6,that older game they stopped for Gears 4 and something new?
Whatever they make I look forward to as they are my fav on XB.
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
Much more than you. Unlike you, I'm actually having discussions. Not just pointing a finger, and foolishly assuming, stupid and outright wrong assumptions. I've only ignored one person on this site, no need to add another. I just ask for you to bring some tangible or constructive argument next time you quote me. Otherwise I'm wasting more responding to you, than you are to me.