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RTings burn in test shows QD-OLEDs are actually more prone to burn in than W-OLED
Thebonehead
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The Pleasure
Gold Member
Still rocking my plasma. Led and motion aren't anywhere near plasma. Hell oled isn't either.
Thebonehead
Gold Member
Subfield on plasma was something like 600hz wasn't it.
I know moving from Plasma to Oled I thought Oled has smashed Plasma completely out of the park in all areas...
.. and then I sat down to watch a football match
The Pleasure
Gold Member
Later plasmas had a 2500hz subfield. And watching boxing on led SUCKS.
dotnotbot
Member
OP forgot to add the most important part: white seems to be more prone to burn-in. Shouldn't me prone to burn-in on varied content.
Pretty bad results so far for Sony OLEDs and Samsung QD-OLED panels in general:
- white burns-in faster on QD-OLED panels than on LG WOLED panels (both Sony and Samsung QD-OLED TVs seemed to suffer more or less equally bad from a CNN test)
- Sony OLED burned-in faster than LG OLED, both models using LG WOLED panel (they compared 48" LG C1 against 42" Sony A90K, both are using LG WOLED panels, video says A90K is QD-OLED but that's a mistake)
Shame they didn't compare the exact same size though.
We knew from HDTVTest reviews that LG clears out temporary retention faster than Sony but now we kinda have proof that this may also lead to faster burn in. Still needs more testing though as panel variation might also be important here.
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The Cockatrice
Banned
There was that one or two gaffers who said this was a myth and almost impossible to happen. Wonder where those idiots are.
MikeM
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Its why I still have my Panasonic ST50 as my main floor TV. Old but damn does it still slap. Keeping her until she dies.
I regret selling my VT50 I had prior. Should have kept that too.
The Pleasure
Gold Member
I'm rocking a vt30 in my living room and. Ut50 in my bedroom.
dotnotbot
Member
It's not impossible but what you're seeing here are accelerated results. Unless you're watching CNN 24/7 you're safe. Also if those "idiots" meant LG only then they were pretty much right, here's C2 after 2 months/1200 hours, still no burn-in:
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Unknown Soldier
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Imagine not gaming on an LCD in 2023. Some people just love burned in panels.
Bojji
Member
this is why i game on VA panel monitor.
Enjoy black smearing:
I always thought WOLED would be better than QD-OLED thanks to not having to go as bright thanks to white sub pixel and I was partialy right (white color is the culprit when all sub pixels have to turn on on QD), LG also has much longer experience with OLED tech. I'm glad I went with WOLED but that was mostly thanks to limited budget than longevity worries (and I don't like Samsung) LOL.
Lone Wolf
Member
Nobody lied. LG TVs are much less susceptible to burn in than they used to be, and Samsung TVs are shit as usual.
The Cockatrice
Banned
It's not impossible but what you're seeing here are accelerated results. Unless you're watching CNN 24/7 you're safe. Also if they meant LG only, here's C2 after 2 months, still no burn-in:
Im not rich enough to replace my TV every year. If the OLEDs premium price doesnt last me at least 4 years then it can fuck off.
Bojji
Member
LCD tech is shit:
VA - black smearing, terrible viewing angles and high (-er) response times
IPS - dogshit black/contrast levels
WOLED is the best tv tech for general use (and gaming) and QD OLED has the best picture quality right now. Micro LED once affordable will destroy everything.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Samsung G7 and G8 sitting there wondering what you talking about.
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Quasicat
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I was looking at upgrading, but my IPS screen is really nice during the day with a lot of light and it turned me off when I was at a friend’s house and the car from F-Zero was burned into the lower part of his W-OLED screen. He told me that it had been there for a few weeks; It didn’t bother him, but it drove me crazy.
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dotnotbot
Member
2 months, 1200 hours, continuosly displaying CNN, still no burn-in on LG. You're not gonna need to change it every year LOL:
C1:
C2:
CX:
G1:
G2:
Longevity Burn-In Test: Updates And Results From 100 TVs
Our accelerated longevity test has been running for almost two years now, and from full-on panel failures to image retention and LCD degradation, we've already encountered some interesting results.
www.rtings.com
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Bernardougf
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Been gaming in my beautiful pitch black OLED for 03 years straight now with ZERO burn in ... but keep telling yourself that fud
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
I had an LG OLED65C8PLA for over five years with daily heavy usage and had no burn in there. Just make sure you have all safety measures on and watch a variety of content.
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Bojji
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Samsung Odyssey G7 C32G75T Review
The Samsung Odyssey G7 C32G75T is a 240Hz, 1440p gaming monitor. It's part of Samsung's 2020 Odyssey gaming lineup, and it's one of few monitors available in two...
www.rtings.com
The Cockatrice
Banned
2 months, 1200 hours, continuosly displaying CNN, still no burn-in on LG. You're not gonna need to change it every year LOL:
C1:
C2:
CX:
G1:
G2:
Longevity Burn-In Test: Updates And Results From 100 TVs
Our accelerated longevity test has been running for almost two years now, and from full-on panel failures to image retention and LCD degradation, we've already encountered some interesting results.
Not all models are born equally. Its a serious issue. Ill pass for now.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Are those the monitors with the horrible banding issue, or ive forgotten what its called. I had to return a G7 because there was every other line was like messed up. It sucked so bad as I wanted to love the monitor.
I have a pic somewhere, as soon as I sent it Samsung were just like...we will give you a refund, every one of our panels does this.
Hugs my LG CX and C2. Ive had absolutely no issues with my 65 and 42 inch respectively. Beautiful TVs
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Bojji
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dotnotbot
Member
Just get C2/G2 as they have most efficient, newest panels (using better materials than CX and older) which has been confirmed by this test. Problem solved.
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The Cockatrice
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I mean ofc people are going to defend this, and ofc theres going to be videos with its not an issue just like you can find videos of people eating shit and saying its fine. For the premium price, I expect 0 issues.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Samsung Odyssey G7 C32G75T Review
The Samsung Odyssey G7 C32G75T is a 240Hz, 1440p gaming monitor. It's part of Samsung's 2020 Odyssey gaming lineup, and it's one of few monitors available in two...
Nope not gonna get me with that noise.
ANIMAL1975
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The Cockatrice
Banned
Nah Im sticking with my Sony X90 until it dies. No reason to switch.
The Pleasure
Gold Member
Are they playing skullgirls? Or is that Banjo Kazooie?You guys are too modern for me
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Well shit. Guess I should've bought that 65'' LG C2 when I had the chance during last black friday.
Corporal.Hicks
Member
Even the best mini-leds cant control it's brighitness with each individual pixel, so blooming is a real problem. TV manufacturers would chave to invent something to control light output in each pixel on LCD panel, and the last atempt (crystal led) has failed.
The latest QN90C 55 with 504 local dimming zones still is far from good.
2'nd generation QD-OLEDs are build with HyperEfficient EL material. According to samsung new QD-OLEDS are twice as reliable, so OLEDs reliability is getting better and better. At some point, the burn-in of OLEDs will no longer be an issue, while LCD will probably never offer the ability to control light output on a per-pixel basis, so LCD image quality will probably never match that of OLED.
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phant0m
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I just replaced my UT50 last week with an LG OLED. Yeah, motion isn’t a nice but actual 4K + HDR is a nice upgrade. I think the blacks may actually be better too.
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phant0m
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Yes you should have. Though maybe you can still find a deal on C2 since C3 is coming out ?
Mister Wolf
Member
Don't buy an OLED if you PC game. The Hisense U8K and Samsung QN95C are the two Mini LEDs for this year to look at if you want the best the tech has to offer.
DeceptiveAlarm
Member
My eyes have burn in from that face she is making.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
It’s inevitable that burnin prone tech will fade away.. literally.Even the best mini-leds cant control it's brighitness with each individual pixel. TV manufacturers would chave to invent something to control light output in each pixel.
QN90C 55
2'nd generation QD-OLEDs are build with HyperEfficient EL material. According to samsung new QD-OLEDS are twice as reliable.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Being forced to display CNN 24/7 is a horrible fate for a TV. I'd burn in too.
Bojji
Member
Nope not gonna get me with that noise.
Alienware QD OLED:
G7 is top of the line VA panel and it's destroyed by OLED (and that's 175Hz compared to 240!) I quoted what they said about black smarting in G7, there is no VA panel in existence that doesn't show this "feature", that's how this technology rolls.
Schmendrick
Member
lol, no.
Nothing beats per pixel control.
Micro LED or similar tech will retire OLED, nothing else. Mini LED is "crap" in direct comparison, and at the point where you have enough zones to make the results equal or at least indistinguishable for the naked eye you`ve arrived in MicroLED territory.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
If you go out and get LG C2, you will be fine. Unless you watch something with a static interface on in same place 24x7.
Heck, people have used LG OLED for a monitor for years and they are fine.
Just need to let it run it's cleanup utilities and turn on screen saver/dimming after inactivity when you step away.
I use a 42" C2 as my gaming monitor and it's amazing. Still need to get 65" or 77" as a main TV since C2 is pretty inexpensive right now and not much worse then C3.
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