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Nintendo Direct announced for September 14 at 7AM PT, 10AM ET, 15 UK, 16 CEST featuring 40 minutes of Nintendo Switch games releasing this Winter

E-Cat

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FZero GX is in my opinion overrated in comparison to the superior FzeroX.
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THE DUCK

voted poster of the decade by bots
No matter how you look at it, Nintendo has nothing to gain by revealing Switch before Xmas except for lost holiday sales.

If even a single person decides to wait for Switch 2, or they lose a single software sale this year, because of Switch 2 early reveal. They get no advantage back for that sacrifice. It's worthless and useless.

Guess what you advertise for the holidays...the product you have on the shelf to sell for that holiday, you marketing geniuses.

I'm sorry, but if that were true nobody would ever announce a console early. Typically consoles are announced 6-12 months before release. Switch 1 was announced Oct 2016 and released March 2017. An announcement soon for switch 2 for release it March 2024 fits that pattern exactly.
 

BlackTron

Member
I'm sorry, but if that were true nobody would ever announce a console early. Typically consoles are announced 6-12 months before release. Switch 1 was announced Oct 2016 and released March 2017. An announcement soon for switch 2 for release it March 2024 fits that pattern exactly.

Nintendo usually launches new systems to capitalize on the holiday season, usually November. Switch was different because they were practicing careful management of the Wii U disaster. They knew Wii U was already long dead and were desperate to move on from their mistake as fast as possible. They also really wanted the launch to happen inside of the fiscal year to placate investors pissed at how bad they were doing -their FY ends March 31. If it launched even a week later in April their FY numbers would be disastrous. Frankly they rushed that shit and barely scraped it out on time. It's just the difference between lazy N and N working on the clock.
 

Kusarigama

Member
That’s not saying much though. What has Sony even released this year? MLB 2023?

Pretty sure we’ve had around 8 first party games from Nintendo thus far, with at least 3 more to come. Not all are great though, but still.
They launched PSVR2 and with it a slew of exclusive VR titles. Burning Shores for Horizon was a chunky expansion. Big mid year was a third party timed exclusive Final Fantasy 16. Almost forgot about Forspoken, again a third party venture.
 

Robb

Gold Member
They launched PSVR2 and with it a slew of exclusive VR titles. Burning Shores for Horizon was a chunky expansion. Big mid year was a third party timed exclusive Final Fantasy 16. Almost forgot about Forspoken, again a third party venture.
True, totally forgot about the VR games.
 

Marvel14

Banned
Reckon we might get a Super Switch tease without any indication on release date...I'm sure Nintendo is pretty satisfied with the Switch's overall performance (software sales are completely through the roof).

Its 7th year holiday season sales must be lower priority at this point than building excitement, exposure and anticipation to ensure the successor sells well and retains strong momentum.

Leaks coming out of Gamescom are no accident.
 
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Woopah

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Reckon we might get a Super Switch tease without any indication on release date...I'm sure Nintendo is pretty satisfied with the Switch's overall performance (software sales are completely through the roof).

Its 7th year holiday season sales must be lower priority at this point than building excitement, exposure and anticipation to ensure the successor sells well and retains strong momentum.

Leaks coming out of Gamescom are no accident.
Nintendo is absolutely not leaking things on purpose. They'll keep Switch 2 secret until next year.
 

Gambit2483

Member
Nintendo is absolutely not leaking things on purpose. They'll keep Switch 2 secret until next year.
Yea about that...If they plan to launch in March of '24 (as some have suggested) I can easily see them announcing the thing sometime late this year. Basically similar to how they revealed/launched Switch
 

THE DUCK

voted poster of the decade by bots
Nintendo usually launches new systems to capitalize on the holiday season, usually November. Switch was different because they were practicing careful management of the Wii U disaster. They knew Wii U was already long dead and were desperate to move on from their mistake as fast as possible. They also really wanted the launch to happen inside of the fiscal year to placate investors pissed at how bad they were doing -their FY ends March 31. If it launched even a week later in April their FY numbers would be disastrous. Frankly they rushed that shit and barely scraped it out on time. It's just the difference between lazy N and N working on the clock.

Well don't be shocked if they annouce this fall. You don't show it off privately 2 weeks ago if you aren't close to annoucing it. Sony announced the PS5 a full 6 months prior to launch, and MS announced theirs 10 months prior.
If you insist on using Nintendo as the benchmark, they unveiled the wii U after coming off massive success on the wii, on June 7, 2011 at E3 - more than a full year before it's release date in November 2012.
So your argument holds very little water.
 

BlackTron

Member
Well don't be shocked if they annouce this fall. You don't show it off privately 2 weeks ago if you aren't close to annoucing it. Sony announced the PS5 a full 6 months prior to launch, and MS announced theirs 10 months prior.
If you insist on using Nintendo as the benchmark, they unveiled the wii U after coming off massive success on the wii, on June 7, 2011 at E3 - more than a full year before it's release date in November 2012.
So your argument holds very little water.

Agree to disagree. I'm simply not feeling Nintendo announcing it under current conditions.
 
Well don't be shocked if they annouce this fall. You don't show it off privately 2 weeks ago if you aren't close to annoucing it. Sony announced the PS5 a full 6 months prior to launch, and MS announced theirs 10 months prior.
If you insist on using Nintendo as the benchmark, they unveiled the wii U after coming off massive success on the wii, on June 7, 2011 at E3 - more than a full year before it's release date in November 2012.
So your argument holds very little water.
I agree with you and to strengthen your argument even more actually Sony "officially" technically announced the PS5 in an Interview with Mark Cerny on wired back in April of 2019 - https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/ whicih is more than over a year prior to the System's launch. Then the reveal happened in summer of 2020. and was launched 6 months later.

BlackTron BlackTron reasoning doesn't hold up that well because he is claiming that Nintendo is too concerned with their holiday line up for the sales. Meanwhile, Sony is sitting here announcing a new system in an interview. Which means that why would anyone buy a PS4 or its games during Holiday 2019 when a new system is obviously coming in the holiday of 2020 and is already being publicly spoken about on the internet by a person who's responsible in creating it. Shouldn't Sony have been concered too with the Holiday 2019 as well? Also, the PS4 was very successful too, so Sony wasn't really in a rush either to announce a new system just like the Switch is successful as well. Why risk the sales when a new system is already being talked about which is the PS5? No, BlackTron BlackTron your argument doesn't make any sense. Going to have to sit on with THE DUCK THE DUCK on this one fella.
 
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Bridges

Member
They have such a stacked EOY I'm almost scared of what they could announce. My wallet cannot handle the craziness that has been 2023.

Show me some crazy end of lifecycle shit like a Western version of Giftpia or Day of Disaster
 

BlackTron

Member
I agree with you and to strengthen your argument even more actually Sony "officially" technically announced the PS5 in an Interview with Mark Cerny on wired back in April of 2019 - https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/ whicih is more than over a year prior to the System's launch. Then the reveal happened in summer of 2020. and was launched 6 months later.

BlackTron BlackTron reasoning doesn't hold up that well because he is claiming that Nintendo is too concerned with their holiday line up for the sales.

That is false, you implied that I was saying Nintendo is concerned with their holiday line up in past post which I replied to, where I asserted the opposite, that it would be a bad idea for Nintendo to announce even if they had no games at all. You are the one who droned on making it about game lineup and I knocked that idea down. When I confronted your strawman approach you simply ignored it.

We can go on all day with this, if you want to go digging for every time a company announced a product that wouldn't be out until next year you're going to find zillions and I can't sit here all day explaining why each and every situation was different from the one Nintendo is in now, not least of which is the fact that we're talking about fucking Nintendo here.

Maybe you guys are in your early 20s and didn't have a front row seat to how they managed their game boy business, and don't realize how unique the Wii U situation was for them. Every single time they will carefully analyze the situation to maximize sales and suit their best interests. If you've been a fan of big N for a while you get used to how they think and manage this stuff. You can see from a mile they would never show the Switch 2 now.

By the way, Wii was successful but it also fell off a cliff. And then unveiled Wii U with no games in a low key fashion during the summer not on the precipice of the holiday shopping season where you start advertising what you actually have. Sony would not be caught dead unveiling a new system for next year right before Xmas either. When has any company ever done it other than N trying to escape the Wii U debacle putting all their eggs in the Switch basket. You count number of months like it's only the amount of time passed that matters with no concern for variables like timing of important events like Christmas or end of FY.
 

Drell

Member
I just want my "Fire Emblem Echoes 2: Inheritors of the Light" or whatever they decide to name the remake of FE4.
 
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Marvel14

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That is false, you implied that I was saying Nintendo is concerned with their holiday line up in past post which I replied to, where I asserted the opposite, that it would be a bad idea for Nintendo to announce even if they had no games at all. You are the one who droned on making it about game lineup and I knocked that idea down. When I confronted your strawman approach you simply ignored it.

We can go on all day with this, if you want to go digging for every time a company announced a product that wouldn't be out until next year you're going to find zillions and I can't sit here all day explaining why each and every situation was different from the one Nintendo is in now, not least of which is the fact that we're talking about fucking Nintendo here.

Maybe you guys are in your early 20s and didn't have a front row seat to how they managed their game boy business, and don't realize how unique the Wii U situation was for them. Every single time they will carefully analyze the situation to maximize sales and suit their best interests. If you've been a fan of big N for a while you get used to how they think and manage this stuff. You can see from a mile they would never show the Switch 2 now....

There are plenty of industry events in the first 3 months of 2024. Why didn't Nintendo do a closed door showcase then so that their uber important 7th holiday sales season for the Switch would be free of distraction?
 

NeoIkaruGAF

Gold Member
Not going to let my imagination run wild, so I can expect…

- any new game that’s still supposedly not very far in development may end up being cross-gen with the next Switch. Including that Peach game and DK, if the latter isn’t just a remake/ster of an old DK game.
- Splatoon DLC is possible.
- As much as I don’t care for Fire Emblem, it feels like a while since the last one.
- if they announce something F-Zero, it’s gonna be something that will make many people flip a table over.
- some more news about the Mario RPG remake is pretty much guaranteed, and Wario Ware too.
- on the Metroid side of things, I think a remaster of Samus Returns is always on the list and it’s likely to come before a Prime 3 remaster. Knowing Nintendo, they will keep Prime 3 remastered as one of the very final Switch 1 games. A Prime 2 remaster may come out a year after Prime 1 released.
- a remake/ster of some game from the past outside those discussed above is very likely, even if I guess Mario RPG could be it for this year.
- Nintendo may pull a Nintendo and announce something Kid Icarus related, but that’s at the very bottom of my expectations list.
- some indies a dozen people will be tepidly interested in. I don’t expect Silksong’s release date to be announced in a Nintendo show after it was MS that promised the game would release a year from their 2022 event (and it didn’t happen).
- something completely out of the left field as a little nice bonus for the Switch’s final year as Nintendo’s latest hardware, but I don’t expect anything major.

The next Switch will get an official showing no sooner than January 2024.
 

NanaMiku

Member
Do they have a second team that could actually show something? Because the XB3 team must've been still in pre-production or so, so it's gonna be a while.
Well, I don't know how their studio is structured. They have 2 studio, the one in Tokyo is the main studio while the one in Kyoto is more focused on art, helping for other games (Animal Crossing, Splatoon).

They also made Project x Zone and I'm pretty sure it's a different team from the Xeno team. But the director of PxZ series have left Monolith Soft.
 

SCB3

Member
Of course it can. Pikmin 1+2 ere emulated. But Nintendo seems to prefer selling them individually than adding them to a sub.
Wait are they? I though they were upscaled ports of the Wii versions (hence why you can use the Joycons like a Wii-mote)#


Anyway, for me I'm predicting:

  • Metroid Prime 2 Shadowdrop
  • Super Mario RPG details
  • Princess Peach details
  • Zelda HD release - Twilight Princess likely, but I'd love a double pack
  • F-Zero but not a new game but the rumors of a Battle royal style game like Tetris 99
  • More n64 games for NSO
  • Silksong!!
 

BlackTron

Member
There are plenty of industry events in the first 3 months of 2024. Why didn't Nintendo do a closed door showcase then so that their uber important 7th holiday sales season for the Switch would be free of distraction?

Like I said I can't micromanage every little nano explanation you guys throw at me. The closed door thing was for developers who need to see it a lot earlier than customers do, who get the actual reveal. Your hype and denial that Nintendo will announce this thing now is being directed at me and is exasperating.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
If a new F—Zero is announced.. I will buy a new switch today. ( my kids basically overtook my launch day switch )
 
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Marvel14

Banned
Like I said I can't micromanage every little nano explanation you guys throw at me. The closed door thing was for developers who need to see it a lot earlier than customers do, who get the actual reveal. Your hype and denial that Nintendo will announce this thing now is being directed at me and is exasperating.
I said tease, not announce.

Don't be exasperated. You have a solid argument that Nintendo will announce after the holidays to avoid cannibalising the Switch's final holiday season as its main product.

All you need to do is recognise that there are also solid arguments for them to start socialising the new hardware before the holidays: falling Switch sales, strong Switch 2023 line up, shifting sales strategy to new hardware , if it's launching in March like the Switch did etc.

Just Stop acting like you are the purveyor of the ultimate truth and your exasperation will melt away. I Promise.
 

Woopah

Member
Nintendo wouldn't have shown it if they didn't want people to know it exists.
They've shown it to developers (and have been doing so for a while) because they want developers to know about it and make games for it.

They haven't told the public, because they don't want the public to know about it yet.
 

FunkMiller

Banned
I'm going to be travelling a lot next year for work, so I'm hoping there's going to be some good shit from this. Need lots of new Switch games to keep me going.
 
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FunkMiller

Banned
Maybe at launch for Switch 2. Because they sure as hell won't have a big new Zelda ready by then.

I don't know... the announcement that ToTK isn't getting any DLC for Switch felt a little weird. They might be planning something for Switch 2 instead?
 
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