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North Korea vows preemptive nuke strikes against US, ahead of UN sanctions vote

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shisno626

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What are they they trying to achieve with this video? Wouldn't it make their leaders look like total jerks if the NK citizens start feeling sorry for the Americans?
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If it's real, it's to show that NK citizens in Pyongyang are more privileged and better off than we are.
 
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captmorgan

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Question what would be the outcome if during one of the great leaders speeches a bullet went through is head? What would the reaction from the people, and military be?
 
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vas_a_morir

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shisno626 said:
If it's real, it's to show that NK citizens in Pyongyang are more privileged and better off than we are.
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Shamelessly stolen from Reddit: The Soviet government showed Grapes of Wrath to their citizens to show them how awful life is in Capitalist America, and it backfired as they marveled at how even poor people in America have a car.
 
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captmorgan said:
Question what would be the outcome if during one of the great leaders speeches a bullet went through is head? What would the reaction from the people, and military be?
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It would be a negative reaction for all parties. The military regime very likely has succession plans and it is also likely that the immediate reaction would be to start shooting, the most belligerent would be empowered to take any and all action as a retaliatory show of force.

Assassinating a political leader is not good for two big reasons: one, it makes a martyred hero out of the slain; and two, it sets a very dangerous precedent for dealing with future leaders. Considering the latter, what kind of momentum would have to be built up to take that action? Who's next, Assad? Consider me just an observer but this would not provide peace for Syria nor would it provide peace for DPRK.
 
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Mully

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shisno626 said:
So the US is trying to shift a majority of control of the DMZ to South Korea by 2015?
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Yes.

In the past Stratfor has pointed out that the US is slowly relinquishing it's role as world police as seen by its reluctance to being the main player in: the Libyan No Fly Zone, Mali, and pullouts from Iraq and Afghanistan.

They've indicated that the US wants China to take care of the Middle East because the US doesn't get much oil from there anymore, unlike China and Russia.
 
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Phonomezer

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Kenak said:
According to that video it was trying to be deceptive.
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It's hard to tell if the guy posting it is to be taken seriously or not. I've linked his YT account previously on this page. Also, you can clearly see the young boy in the read shirt squat down and eat something from the grass.

I don't think this would be considered anything out of the ordinary in a country whose government have previously suggested its citizens eat bark and grass to subside hunger.
 
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shisno626

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Mully said:
Yes.

In the past Stratfor has pointed out that the US is slowly relinquishing it's role as world police as seen by its reluctance to being the main player in: the Libyan No Fly Zone, Mali, and pullouts from Iraq and Afghanistan.

They've indicated that the US wants China to take care of the Middle East because the US doesn't get much oil from there anymore, unlike China and Russia.
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Interesting,

Explains some of DPRK's growing paranoia.
 
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maquiladora

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So every North Korean .kp website is down and it looks like the TV news feed isn't working either. At least the online stream anyway. (Edit : It's only online thats down, TV and radio still working via satellite)

Not sure whats going on. Maybe they are having an exercise in media blackout, maybe its a cyber attack? Or maybe somebody just forgot to flick a switch.
 
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maquiladora said:
So every North Korean .kp website is down and it looks like the TV news feed isn't working either. At least the online stream anyway.

Not sure whats going on. Maybe they are having an exercise in media blackout, maybe its a cyber attack? Or maybe somebody just forgot to flick a switch.
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Or something more sinister?
 
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speculawyer

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Why are we still here? I thought we'd be vaporized by now. At least me since I'm on the west coast.


LOL at that propaganda video

"Again, there are no birds in the trees, apart from these, which will be eaten on Tuesday. They are yummy..."..
 
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shisno626

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Phonomezer said:
It's hard to tell if the guy posting it is to be taken seriously or not. I've linked his YT account previously on this page. Also, you can clearly see the young boy in the read shirt squat down and eat something from the grass.

I don't think this would be considered anything out of the ordinary in a country whose government have previously suggested its citizens eat bark and grass to subside hunger.
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Yeah a few of his responses to the videos have been cryptic and weird..

Part of me thinks someone's making fake Korean propaganda videos just to troll.

Namely the First Man in Space video and now this video of Starving America.
 
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Flek

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maquiladora said:
So every North Korean .kp website is down and it looks like the TV news feed isn't working either. At least the online stream anyway. (Edit : It's only online thats down, TV and radio still working via satellite)

Not sure whats going on. Maybe they are having an exercise in media blackout, maybe its a cyber attack? Or maybe somebody just forgot to flick a switch.
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hmm they work for me
 
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jaxword

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I'm on the west coast too, so I'll be vaporized too.
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FYI, when I and others were talking about NK THEORETICALLY being able to reach the West coast, this also means a perfect storm of perfection for their missile programming, launching, and then bypassing all the possible warning systems.

To put it bluntly I wouldn't be surprised if their rockets fell into the ocean before coming anywhere near the US.

Or even past Korean waters.

"Great Leader! It is rising!"
"All is as it should be."
"Great Leader! It is falling!"
"Well, I'm heading to China, see you suckers later."
 
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vas_a_morir said:
Shamelessly stolen from Reddit: The Soviet government showed Grapes of Wrath to their citizens to show them how awful life is in Capitalist America, and it backfired as they marveled at how even poor people in America have a car.
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Similar to what led to North Korea censoring footage of minor protests in Seoul when presenting them as violent demonstrations against the puppet government. People started noticing all the nice clothes, cars and modern buildings.
 
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maquiladora

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The Russian press says the reason North Korean websites are down is due to a cyber attack.

PYONGYANG, March 13 (Itar-Tass) – Access to the Internet was blocked in North Korea on Wednesday. According to an informed source, Internet resources of the country have come under a powerful hacker attack from abroad.
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Raymond Pritchett ‏@Galrahn

IP range 175.45.176.0- 175.45.179.255 (North Korea) is completely offline. All .kp websites are down.
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jaxword said:
FYI, when I and others were talking about NK THEORETICALLY being able to reach the West coast, this also means a perfect storm of perfection for their missile programming, launching, and then bypassing all the possible warning systems.

To put it bluntly I wouldn't be surprised if their rockets fell into the ocean before coming anywhere near the US.

Or even past Korean waters.

"Great Leader! It is rising!"
"All is as it should be."
"Great Leader! It is falling!"
"Well, I'm heading to China, see you suckers later."
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Yeah, I was being sarcastic :p

I'm not even really worried about them nuking someone closer (like SK or Japan) because most likely someone would destroy the missile before it reached its destination, and that if it even functioned correctly.
 
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Minamu

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Hacking the internet seems like a pretty dumb move from an outside perspective. That gives us less of a chance to even have our own perspective on things, something that seems important when we're dealing with such a closed country. And I can't help but wonder if the press and enthusiasts like us are hurting more over this than the NK government itself.
 
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maquiladora said:
The Russian press says the reason North Korean websites are down is due to a cyber attack.
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I would take this with a grain of salt, the report comes from an "informed" anonymous source, and also that paper is a product of colder times. It is possible but comes-off as unsubstantiated fear-mongering from the Russian Press. There appears to be somewhat of a media-blackout from the West reporting this; that is surprising considering the AP has a group in Pyongyang that has been silent since the DPRK domain went down. If it were outside attackers, DPRK would be more than happy to allow the western reporters to cover this story (there are still lines of communication open).

The blackout fits within the DPRK's modus operandi as a means to escalate the menacing appearance; its a kind of wild card to play: increase the level of caution, causing hesitation among outsiders, in order to find an opening or force a move from US/ROK. This seems to fit better with tendencies of that regime. If something happens in the next 96 hrs, it will be Friday/Saturday night, in accordance with the lull in the news cycle.

DPRK is holding drills of their own, and it turns out they are running into basic problems like a lack of driver-training; fuel is severely rationed and there are not enough competent drivers to maintain the logistics of a massive war effort. In the past 48hrs, DPRK has flown over 700 sorties -burning a hell of a lot of fuel that they don't have much of.


Minamu said:
Hacking the internet seems like a pretty dumb move from an outside perspective. That gives us less of a chance to even have our own perspective on things, something that seems important when we're dealing with such a closed country. And I can't help but wonder if the press and enthusiasts like us are hurting more over this than the NK government itself.
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I'm in the camp that believes this was self-imposed by DPRK, and is little more than their hostile gamesmanship. News-junkies are certainly groping for a fix but the lack of coverage suggests that the western media is is not going to provide free DPRK fear dissemination.
 
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Majine

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"Peace, we out!"
 
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MIMIC

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Was anyone a little worried when that U.S. official said that he was "very concerned" about North Korea's rhetoric?

Before then, I figured that the U.S. considered North Korea as someone that's just barking in the dark.
 
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OnkelC

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MIMIC said:
Was anyone a little worried when that U.S. official said that he was "very concerned" about North Korea's rhetoric?

Before then, I figured that the U.S. considered North Korea as someone that's just barking in the dark.
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that's just diplomatic politeness.
 
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ponpo

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What would NK do if their enemies starting flying over the country dropping food and kpop propoganda non stop? Would the population revolt after exposure to soshi and Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
 
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BertramCooper

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Did some reading today on Kim Jong-nam, Jong-il's oldest son and original heir.

Apparently he fled his home in Macau last year because he believed Jong-un was plotting to have him assassinated.

And a North Korean agent confessed to being part of a planned attack on him in 2010.

http://shanghaiist.com/2012/11/16/kim_jong-ils_son_reappears_in_singa.php

Crazy stuff. I'm sure this was probably discussed on GAF at some point, but it was mostly new to me.
 
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