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• This week in Berlin was IFA 2024, showcasing a wide range of new consumer technology products.
• At the show, AMD confirmed the successor to its Z1 Extreme chip, which is powering devices like the Lenovo Legion Go and ASUS ROG Ally, revolutionizing PC gaming handhelds.
• The Z2 Extreme will be based on Strix Point, with AMD's Senior Vice President Jack Huynh reportedly suggesting it will boost high-end performance mode battery life from 45 minutes to 3 hours.

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[Setsuna Mudou]

 

[Diseased Yak]

 

[Dorfdad]

This is where we needed technology to go. I’m assuming with some settings adjustment 4-6 hours is going to be possible!! Excellent news!!

 

[Schmendrick]

If even half o that turns out to be more than just the usual PR hyperbole then that`s huge.

 

[Mr Hyde]

ROG Ally 2 is going to be a beast!

 

[Cyberpunkd]

After playing PS5 for a total of 30 hours last year this is what me and my wife did since getting a Steamdeck end of February 2024:

65 hours of Fallout 4
100 hours of Skyrim
50 hours of Witcher 1
30 hours of Witcher 2
20 hours of Diablo 4 and counting

2 week average on Steam is around 70 hours right now.

 

[Mownoc]

Nice, excited to see how this performs.

 

[Wooxsvan]

 

[Imtjnotu]

 

[welshrat]

Nice. Will be great for a stream deck 2.

 

[twilo99]

I think even some of the new 3nm Intel chips are feasible for handhelds

 

[Nikodemos]

Ten years ago, anybody telling me an AMD processor would, one day, be powering handhelds, would be met with a polite chuckle from my part.
Yet here we are, and we're looking at the next gen of such designs.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Steam Deck 2 gonna be nuts

 

[Bry0]

Probably a variant of kraken point? I mean isn’t that technically a cut down strix?

It was also roadmapped to be the actual hawk point successor.

 

[March Climber]

The handheld sprint becomes more fun to read about every month.

 

[Akuji]

that means lower power draw, lower power draw means less waste heat, less waste heat means less cooling is needed, less cooling needed means it doesnt need to be as heavy and you can design it more ergonomic.


oh boi.

 

[TintoConCasera]

The future is comfy.

 

[//DEVIL//]

What ? The new chip is not Strix point ? Wtf I think i am out -_-

 

[Fake]

Hope everything is true.

 

[Hudo]

I so wish other manufacturers, Intel and fucking Nvidia in particular, would also consider power consumption...

 

[StereoVsn]

I so wish other manufacturers, Intel and fucking Nvidia in particular, would also consider power consumption...

New Intel Lunar Lake APU is supposed to be more powerful vs just released AMD one and consume less power.

No idea how true that is since we need some proper reviews first.

 

[Gamezone]

Z1 efficiency is crap compared to the Steam Deck's custom chip at lower wattages. How the hell could the same company have produced both chips?

 

[proandrad]

Nice. Will be great for a stream deck 2.

Only if they can make it for a low price. I don’t think valve is interested in $1000 handhelds, they are aiming for mass adoption.

 

[64gigabyteram]

Z1 efficiency is crap compared to the Steam Deck's custom chip at lower wattages. How the hell could the same company have produced both chips?

Different approaches means differing performance

Rog Ally is about that 20-30w tdp, max performance fuck the battery life

Steam deck dominates 5-15 watts, long lasting but it won't always perform well

I just want to see the ramifications this has for deck. If I can run the chip at 10 watts and get 8-9 hours out of it while running cool and quiet I'd be a happy man.

What these devices need more than a size reduction is an efficiency jump. Please do not be lying to us AMD we know you can do it

 

[March Climber]

Z1 efficiency is crap compared to the Steam Deck's custom chip at lower wattages. How the hell could the same company have produced both chips?

Something happened recently that became a game changer for handhelds, that's why. Hopefully we're going to see a similar type of magic boost take place in the Switch 2.

 

[mhirano]

Z1 efficiency is crap compared to the Steam Deck's custom chip at lower wattages. How the hell could the same company have produced both chips?

The did different flavours for different needs.
Remember that Steam Deck has half the CPU cores and lower clocks

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

New Intel Lunar Lake APU is supposed to be more powerful vs just released AMD one and consume less power.

No idea how true that is since we need some proper reviews first.

Yeah, I just saw this morning a few Twitter threads about the new intel lunar lake APUs and they look very promising. Apparently they're built on TSMC 3nm so they're very power efficient. I'm actually excited for PC handhelds with Lunar Lake APUs when they eventually get released.

 

[CherryFalls]

Absolutely fell in love with the legion go, hopefully a new one soon then.

 

[Hohenheim]

Fuck yeah! I knew it was the right call to resist the urge to get a Ally X and wait for this stuff. This will probably be my Steam deck replacement next year

 

[Topher]

Next gen handhelds....

 

[ReBurn]

Pair a high performing yet power-saving chipset with SteamOS and I'm there.

 

[CS Lurker]

Yeah, more like 45min than 3 hours. Z1 is already using TSMC 4nm. There's no magic here

 

[Dorfdad]

I so wish other manufacturers, Intel and fucking Nvidia in particular, would also consider power consumption...

Ai requires more power asking them to ditch the top end and massive investment monies to chance small console sales would be ludicrous!

AMD will start to face challenges from Apple and Samsung however in this space as well as some overseas up and comers. Intel should probably compete for it as well because they have been so bad latterly with their chips price / performance / power efficiency they need a newer design

 

[Parazels]

We need to migrate on ARM on PC, consoles and handhelds instead of squeezing x86.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

The Steak Deck and Cheese!

 

[HogIsland]

It's happening y'all.

 

[DJ12]

Sold.

Oled screen though please lenovo.

Also should go without saying, but a native landscape screen not portrait

 

[twilo99]

Interesting take here

 

[cebri.one]

300% is absolute bullshit.

 

[64gigabyteram]

300% is absolute bullshit.

Nah. If the past 4 years have proven anything, Moores law is still alive for mobile chipsets.
Getting 280 or 260% would still be massive

 

[cebri.one]

Nah. If the past 4 years have proven anything, Moores law is still alive for mobile chipsets.
Getting 280 or 260% would still be massive

No, with Z5 and RDNA3.5 you'll get 20-30% better performance in games at the same power levels, mainly thanks to the improvement in the GPU + process. If they are going from 45 minutes to 3 hours:
A. They are lying
B. Their previous battery was stupidly small
C. They are lying

 

[Mithos]

How about same battery-time, 300% performance boost.