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Cyberpunk 2077’s sequel is aiming for ‘the most realistic crowds in any game’ | VGC

‘Cyberpunk 2’ has huge ambitions when it comes to crowd tech…

www.videogameschronicle.com

Job listings for the sequel to Cyberpunk 2077 have revealed that CD Projekt Red is aiming to deliver ‘the most realistic crowds ever seen in a video game’.

CD Projekt has recently posted a series of job openings for the upcoming RPG which gives the first indication of the ambition of the project.

While job listings are rarely completely accurate reflections of the finished games, one note in the listing for a lead encounter designer points to one of the milestones CD Projekt is looking to reach during development.

Among the daily responsibilities, successful applicants will be expected to “work in close collaboration with the systems design team to create the most realistic and reactive crowd system in any game to date.”

It’s unclear if this refers to something like Red Dead Redemption 2‘s conversation system, wherein every NPC could be spoken to, or if the developer is simply looking for more realistic general reactions to the player’s actions.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Eh, its just a job opening.

I thought they were announcing this, which would have been nuts.

Am assuming actual game will be able to match GTA San Andreas.

 

[Magic Carpet]

New status effect, Con Crud.

 

[Schmick]

Sounds CPU heavy or even rely on the cloud.

 

[Hudo]

Eh, its just a job opening.

I thought they were announcing this, which would have been nuts.

Am assuming actual game will be able to match GTA San Andreas.

Does GTA 5 even match GTA San Andreas in that regard? Maybe my memories betray me, but when I played it, it felt it took multiple steps backwards in its systems.

 

[Impotaku]

Lol they said the same shit when they made their bullshit bait & switch trailers for the first one.

Take anything said by them with a continent sized pinch of salt.

 

[nemiroff]

Let's hope this indicates that they understand that 2077's simulated world was not...optimal... An oddly ill fit to an otherwise well-crafted environment.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Does GTA 5 even match GTA San Andreas in that regard? Maybe my memories betray me, but when I played it, it felt it made multiple steps back in its systems.

Not sure about that.

Its been a while since I played both.

Am assuming it should be able to match first gen GTA 3d style games since they might’ve learned something from first Cyberpunk.

 

[Metnut]

Would be cool if they can develop this in tandem with Witcher 4. Definitely looking forward to this one more. KCD2 has taken the crown from the Witcher as best medical open world games IMO.

 

[Hudo]

Not sure about that.

Its been a while since I played both.

Am assuming it should be able to match first gen GTA 3d style games since they might’ve learned something from first Cyberpunk.

Let's hope so. Cyberpunk (after they relaunched it) was fun.

 

[Gonzito]

Good, hopefully they have a good behavior because in Cyberpunk 2077 even to this day, the npc behavior and traffic AI is a god-damn joke.

I am not asking RDR2 levels of realism but they can do much better than what we got

 

[RJMacready73]

One of the things that irked me about Cyberpunk was how hollow and lifeless the world felt, for such an incredible environment, easily one of the best in videogames it just lacked that something to elevate it, hopefully to be addressed in CP2

 

[viveks86]

Can't wait!

 

[SHA]

Cyberpunk is basically a serious GTA, that's it.

 

[HJuggernaut]

I hope the game has more RPG elements and that they keep their promise of your actions have consequences and affecting the world around you.

 

[jmiller180]

Cyberpunk's world NPCs are complete morons. Was hoping the 2.0 update would rectify their incompetencies, but alas they still crouch in fear and drive like 90 year old grandmothers. Overrated game.

 

[Luipadre]

They never learn do they? First with the witcher 4 interviews and now this...

 

[Bert Big Balls]

Here we go again.

 

[GymWolf]

Not without euphoria you don't.

Npcs need both set dressing wjen you only watch them doing their thing and actual animations quality when you interact with them, and all devs are a couple of gen behind rockstar, and gta6 is gonna increase this gap even more.

Wd2 has an incredible npcs system from afar but when you see interacting between each other or getting shot or beaten or run over with a car you see the facade crumbling because the animations look pedestrian.

Curius to see what they are gonna do about it, because cyberpunk npcs animations are not even on the level of gta4.

 

[GudOlRub]

Listen, I adore CP2077, I enjoyed the game even when it came out in that atrocious state, but I've heard that before, they're not gonna get me this time

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

God just make the damn game. Not again, lmao.

 

[TheRedRiders]

Doubt it'll come close to GTA 6 but we'll see.

 

[Rosoboy19]

So basically the opposite of Avowed?

 

[notseqi]

Listen, I adore CP2077, I enjoyed the game even when it came out in that atrocious state, but I've heard that before, they're not gonna get me this time

Don't play it on bad hardware. It was a delight when it launched, for me.

 

[dorkimoe]

God just make the damn game. Not again, lmao.

yeah why are we worried about the crowd lol

 

[DragoonKain]

Over/under on the release date: 2077

 

[Polygonal_Sprite]

Good. The crowds in 2077 are absolutely awful. It doesn’t matter how great it looks with path tracing etc the whole experience of a real city falls apart when you see those lifeless zombies walking around.

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

This is why game development is so long…

 

[Kupfer]

Let's see in 10ish years

 

[Lokaum D+]

Sounds CPU heavy or even rely on the cloud.

At least they are aming for something big, MHwilds is CPU heavy and looks like a PS4 game.

 

[Hyet]

I don't know if UE5 is the best for this. Sure, they can randomize some metahumans and make the crowd diverse but I'm not sure it will ever be properly opmized for huge numbers.

 

[R6Rider]

 

[samoilaaa]

they said the same thing about the first one and we know how that turned out

 

[blastprocessor]

Wow what a feature.

 

[KyoZz]

Oh yeah just like when they wanted to be as polished as RDRII?

I'll pass this time. And let's hope they AT LEAST make a proper RPG and not some actioner with slight RPG elements.

 

[Xtib81]

Can't wait for the sequel. I hope they make it next gen only this time around. I'm not expecting it until 2031/32 so that would make sense.

 

[Kronark]

I like Cyberpunk 2077 a lot, but they already told us the NPCs in that game would have real life cycles. They commuted to work, etc. Then we found out they just walked up and down the sidewalk for a block in a loop...

 

[Raven117]

That's cool. But please just get Witcher 4 out and make it awesome.

 

[Rentahamster]

That's what they said last time

 

[Gorgon]

So basically the opposite of Avowed?

Pretty low bar, in that respect.

 

[ReBurn]

I was just thinking that what Cyberpunk really needed was more realistic crowds.

 

[kikii]

another banger coming ?

 

[Plague Doctor]

Hot take:

AC series did one thing good post black flag and that was the crowd density of AC: Unity. I'd go as far to say the best crowd density of any open world city to date.

That is the bar. They need to exceed that and not make it a technical clusterfuck.

 

[sendit]

Did Phil Spencer get hired to be Cyberpunks new director?

 

[Blank Space Invader]

Less crowds, more compelling world locations and gameplay, please. I really wish developers would stop focusing on technical immersion when they still can't get the base game right.

 

[Imtjnotu]

It won't pass RDR2. Let alone GTA 6

 

[Ceadeus]

Are they being inspired by the dynamism of Avowed npc's?

 

[notseqi]

I like Cyberpunk 2077 a lot, but they already told us the NPCs in that game would have real life cycles. They commuted to work, etc. Then we found out they just walked up and down the sidewalk for a block in a loop...

you stuck around to observe that? good on ya, i had shit to do

 

[Kronark]

you stuck around to observe that? good on ya, i had shit to do

Youtubers pointed out it. Crowds generally look pretty normal unless you hit one of these pivot points.

 

[notseqi]

Youtubers pointed out it. Crowds generally look pretty normal unless you hit one of these pivot points.

I agree that it is not working that way in the game itself, even on PC. I just don't stop to care, I am taking care of business on a 82h playthrough. I got places to be.