Radical_3d
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Once again DLSS is superior
if you stop to stare.
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[DF] Jedi Survivor update for PS5PRO
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Once again DLSS is superior
SweetTooth
Gold Member
Massive improvement over the first patch, great to see.
Also didn't need 6 years of constant training
Also didn't need 6 years of constant training
crazyriddler
Member
Sharpness is not a feature that makes PSSR better, but a filter it uses to hide its limitations, FSR 2 also uses a more aggressive sharpness filter than DLSS (which can also use a sharpness filter at will).
hououinkyouma00
Member
Before I watch this, who's the host?
Zuzu
Member
Alex and Oliver
kevboard
Member
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
If it was just a filter, you'd see a sharper image both standing still and in motion. But that was not the case in the video footage of Jedi Survivor.
Senua
Member
Massive improvement over the first patch, great to see.
Also didn't need 6 years of constant training
hououinkyouma00
Member
Hard pass because of Alex.
Skifi28
Member
In the side by side PSSR looked much better and cleaner to me while they kept commenting it was worse, but what do I know. I also disagree with the whole Alex "I don't have to comment on image quality with DLSS these days". Plenty of games I've played recently have mediocre DLSS implementations, often much worse than stuff we've seen with PSSR. I was playing Uncharted 4 and DLSS even on quality looked awful, same for Forza where even DLAA was ghastly. I disabled it on both and I'm playing at native. As someone that uses both DLSS and PSSR, I'd say they are very comparable in terms of the actual gaming experience and most differences are superficial unless you stand completely still and zoom in. No Ai solution is absolutely perferct and they can all exhibit issues, both major and minor trading blows in games.
Lastly, the whole "PSSR is comparable to FSR2" angle is absolutely bollocks. FSR completely breaks apart in motion, a pretty important aspect of playing games. It's not even in the same ballpark with PSSR. In Jedi survivor for example with exaggerated animations and fast movement the FSR issues were too obvious on the base PS5 version (where I finished it) and I have no idea why they don't mention it here.
Lastly, the whole "PSSR is comparable to FSR2" angle is absolutely bollocks. FSR completely breaks apart in motion, a pretty important aspect of playing games. It's not even in the same ballpark with PSSR. In Jedi survivor for example with exaggerated animations and fast movement the FSR issues were too obvious on the base PS5 version (where I finished it) and I have no idea why they don't mention it here.
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Maddoxswe
Member
Every time I see a post from you in Sony threads it’s just pathetic. Stay in Microsoft threads and you will feel much better
jm89
Member
Cry about even slight df criticism syndrome in full swingDF derangement syndrom in full swing on the first reply
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bundylove
Member
In your mind.Every time I see a post from you in Sony threads it’s just pathetic. Stay in Microsoft threads and you will feel much better
What console do i own and which ecco system am i tied to?
Curious
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Too bad it's a Star Fart game.
Just here to see if PSSR is keeping everyone engaged.
Upscales have to get better, that's all gaming tech has to work with for the foreseeable future.
Just here to see if PSSR is keeping everyone engaged.
Upscales have to get better, that's all gaming tech has to work with for the foreseeable future.
bundylove
Member
Ok so you are quite now with your alt account.Every time I see a post from you in Sony threads it’s just pathetic. Stay in Microsoft threads and you will feel much better
Let me help you
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KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
I haven't tested Uncharted since a long time but I don't remember DLSS being ghastly, let alone Forza that I played just an hour ago with DLAA and it looks amazing. Not sure what's the issue but it's probably not the fault of DLSS because minus a few early games implementation, it's now very solid.
I activate it in every game when I can (mostly DLAA) and it always looks good. A few examples, every shot is mine with DLSS activated:
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Far from ghastly, and the IQ is perfect rather it is in motion or while standing still (and not to mention compression). Now what I am seeing in this for Jedi Survivor video is terrible, THIS is ghastly.
Maddoxswe
Member
how should i be supposed to know what ecco system you use ?
Also.. git gud.. 19 platinums
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bundylove
Member
ok so me as a ps fan , why should i go to xbox boards?
SweetTooth
Gold Member
winjer
Member
I haven't tested Uncharted since a long time but I don't remember DLSS being ghastly, let alone Forza that I played just an hour ago with DLAA and it looks amazing. Not sure what's the issue but it's probably not the fault of DLSS because minus a few early games implementation, it's now very solid.
I activate it in every game when I can (mostly DLAA) and it always looks good. A few examples, every shot is mine with DLSS activated:
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Far from ghastly, and the IQ is perfect rather it is in motion or while standing still (and not to mention compression). Now what I am seeing in this for Jedi Survivor video is terrible, THIS is ghastly.
I played Uncharted 4 on PC, and it looked terrible with DLSS. Easily one of the worst implementations of the tech.
It was extremely blurry, even after changing the dll.
Maddoxswe
Member
So as a PS fan, then i say sorry. We are family bro.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Zathalus
Member
The game still uses DLSS 3.1 which came out over two years ago. Which uses a ML model that was released in 2022.Massive improvement over the first patch, great to see.
Also didn't need 6 years of constant training
Zuzu
Member
Going by the video, PSSR does look sharper than DLSS in motion in this game but like Alex said this game is using an older version of DLSS which is DLSS 3.1, so this isn't comparing the latest version of DLSS with PSSR. If Jedi Survivor used the newest version of DLSS then the results might be different.
bundylove
Member
how should i be supposed to know what ecco system you use ?
Also.. git gud.. 19 platinums
I Am proud of my meager 19 plats . I earned them. In real games lol.
how should i be supposed to know what ecco system you use ?
Also.. git gud.. 19 platinums
Just checked my game catalog. Over 1400 games of ps4 and ps5.
Been a playstaion fan since 94. Owned every ps console. And psp and vita.
Not sure what qualifies here as a ps fan .
But yeah maybe i should go the the xbox boards.
Not sure how to engage there with people as after the 360 i didnt own a single xbox console.
Sorry that after spending money on a brand for 30 years i am entitled to my opinion
Maddoxswe
Member
Hey i get the point and i made a mistakte, you are a fellow blue brother!
So when DLSS 4 comes out they will compare it again with PSSR in this game and other for example? The PSSR just released of course it need work and to be improved. Sony said it themselves. Is DLSS 3.1 bad? Why it has to be compared to the latest DLSS.
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Edmund
is waiting for Starfield 7
Can't stand that bugaga guy too.
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Yep maybe, I should give it another try but I'm lazy. And that doesn't change what I said nor my examples, Uncharted 4 is the exception, not the norm.
Skifi28
Member
DLSS in Forza produces some of the worst ghosting I've seen in any game. It's absolutely broken in my eyes and I'm not sure how the issue can be from my side and not the game. During side to side camera motion everything leaves behind very obvious trails, I've tried everything and in the end I just settled for not using DLSS or A which drastically improves image quality.I haven't tested Uncharted since a long time but I don't remember DLSS being ghastly, let alone Forza that I played just an hour ago with DLAA and it looks amazing. Not sure what's the issue but it's probably not the fault of DLSS because minus a few early games implementation, it's now very solid.
I activate it in every game when I can (mostly DLAA) and it always looks good. A few examples, every shot is mine with DLSS activated:
I got plenty more here if you want
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Far from ghastly, and the IQ is perfect rather it is in motion or while standing still (and not to mention compression). Now what I am seeing in this for Jedi Survivor video is terrible, THIS is ghastly.
Edit: A picture I also posted in the Forza OT during a very slight wheel motion to the right which immediately introduces ghosting. Take note of all the poles in the distance
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bundylove
Member
I am hooked on psvr2 currently.
The pro updates make a difference.
Gt7 now looks and play great.
But again that freakin motiin sickness just doesnt want to go away.
Taking gravol prior of each session helps.
Ultrawings 2 though really gets me.
But i can honestly say psvr2 came around big time and should be a must have for vr fans
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Radical_3d
Member
Maybe they are very fan of Pokemon battles and that’s why DF weights so heavily the IQ while looking a bush and not moving the camera.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Digital Foundry:
Platform warriors:
"YEAH! SUCK IT PC GAMERS!!!11"
- Overall, DLSS is the clear winner
- This game uses DLSS 3.1 by default, which is 2 years old at this point
- DLSS4 is less than 2 weeks away, which will increase the gap even further
- PSSR is still not a a clear upgrade over FSR2 in this game
- FSR4 is also right around the corner
Platform warriors:
"YEAH! SUCK IT PC GAMERS!!!11"
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TehGoomba7s
Member
Gives me a good chuckle that the same 3-4 PC muppets are always on the first page of console threads attempting to be smug
Mister Wolf
Member
I'm glad they improved it. Hopefully we get the third game sooner than later.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
PSSR looks sharper and clearer in motion
Why does DF care so much about stability at rest when you aren’t moving?
Why does DF care so much about stability at rest when you aren’t moving?
OverHeat
« generous god »
Let them enjoy the game
it’s the only way they will be able to play it.
Maddoxswe
Member
Honestly i havent tried the psvr2 yet. I bought a ps5 pro last week and im stoked how good the image quality is.. it's crazy. Can't wait too see how the future games will look if the current games looks so good.
Glaring issues aside, there are some games that are borked. How many people sit there, stop playing the game and pull out a magnifying glass to look at the detail on leaves? The bigger concern should be how the game looks as a whole while being played. Not the screen shot versus screen shot comparisons of a leaf or bush.
kevboard
Member
Cry about even slight df criticism syndrome in full swing
maybe buy a dictionary, because instantly assuming someone else's intent without evidence due to one's own biases isn't criticism. it's mental derangement
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SweetTooth
Gold Member
OverHeat
« generous god »
Ok..it didn't need 4 Years of training
