adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
0:00 Overview
00:41 Visual Highlights
02:19 PS5 Settings and Performance
07:53 Series S/X Settings and Performance
11:04 Recommendations and Conclusion
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Digital Foundry: Dragon Age: The Veilguard - PS5/Xbox Series X|S Tech Review - Impressive Visuals, Good Performance
- Thread starter adamsapple
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0:00 Overview
00:41 Visual Highlights
02:19 PS5 Settings and Performance
07:53 Series S/X Settings and Performance
11:04 Recommendations and Conclusion
Wolves hunt in packs
Member
Dragon Age: The Veilguard on consoles is an attractive, technically solid release
Does Dragon Age: The Veilguard run well on PS5 and Xbox Series consoles? Digital Foundry has the complete lowdown.
www.eurogamer.net
So as usual for the last year or so... low resolution in performance modes. Shame.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
extremely generic looking game , looks like a 2014 game technically
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
- "Clearly a very handsome title"
- Strand based hair system praised, looks good in both game play and cut-scenes
- Cartoonish faces stick out slightly but stylized approach helps avoid uncanny valley
- Consoles have 2 modes. Performance and Quality
- PS5:
- Fidelity: At or around 1080p and Performance at or around 720p with low DRS seen at 540p
- Fidelity seems to stick to target resolution mostly
- FSR2 used to upscale to 4K for Fidelity and 1440p for Performance
- FSR2 fizzle and noise is lesser than most games using it
- Image stability is generally fine and only stressed in fast combat, with little breakup
- Fidelity is clearer but Performance's doubled refresh helps keep issues to minimum
- Fidelity exclusively features RT reflections and AO
- Equivalent to PC's "selective" setting so it doesn't apply to all surfaces
- Some places like rivers show the same cube maps on both modes
- Similarly for RTAO, only some areas get coverage.
- No area spotted with both RTAO and RT Reflections at the same time
- Certain areas get more priority over others and usage is very selective per area
- RTAO improvement over Performance is very subtle
- Only other difference is slightly higher SSAO, not much else to separate other than resolution
- Fidelity mode is pretty much locked at 30 in DF's testing
- Performance is mostly 60 but has periodic drops in cut-scenes and combat
- Xbox:
- Series X is just about identical to PS5 with same resolution metrics
- RT and Visual quality metrics are also similar to PS5
- Series S has the same toggles for both Performance and Quality mode.
- Fidelity: 648p with a softer output than PS5/SX (FSR to 1440p ?)
- Performance: 480p with FSR2 to 1080p
- Both modes suffer more image breakup than PS5/SX comparatively
- RT is dropped entirely and Strand hair are also dropped for more simpler hair
- 30 FPS mode runs pretty locked outside of a single drop in DF testing
- 60 FPS mode somewhat similar but has more drops, not up to the other consoles
- Both Xbox machines (and PS5) also tear slightly
Verdict:
- DF preferred the Performance mode on PS5/SX
- On Series S the choice is less clear, usually they would go for 30fps but there's no motion blur here that can make it a bit harder to recommend
- Solid experience on current gen consoles
- Strand based hair system praised, looks good in both game play and cut-scenes
- Cartoonish faces stick out slightly but stylized approach helps avoid uncanny valley
- Consoles have 2 modes. Performance and Quality
- PS5:
- Fidelity: At or around 1080p and Performance at or around 720p with low DRS seen at 540p
- Fidelity seems to stick to target resolution mostly
- FSR2 used to upscale to 4K for Fidelity and 1440p for Performance
- FSR2 fizzle and noise is lesser than most games using it
- Image stability is generally fine and only stressed in fast combat, with little breakup
- Fidelity is clearer but Performance's doubled refresh helps keep issues to minimum
- Fidelity exclusively features RT reflections and AO
- Equivalent to PC's "selective" setting so it doesn't apply to all surfaces
- Some places like rivers show the same cube maps on both modes
- Similarly for RTAO, only some areas get coverage.
- No area spotted with both RTAO and RT Reflections at the same time
- Certain areas get more priority over others and usage is very selective per area
- RTAO improvement over Performance is very subtle
- Only other difference is slightly higher SSAO, not much else to separate other than resolution
- Fidelity mode is pretty much locked at 30 in DF's testing
- Performance is mostly 60 but has periodic drops in cut-scenes and combat
- Xbox:
- Series X is just about identical to PS5 with same resolution metrics
- RT and Visual quality metrics are also similar to PS5
- Series S has the same toggles for both Performance and Quality mode.
- Fidelity: 648p with a softer output than PS5/SX (FSR to 1440p ?)
- Performance: 480p with FSR2 to 1080p
- Both modes suffer more image breakup than PS5/SX comparatively
- RT is dropped entirely and Strand hair are also dropped for more simpler hair
- 30 FPS mode runs pretty locked outside of a single drop in DF testing
- 60 FPS mode somewhat similar but has more drops, not up to the other consoles
- Both Xbox machines (and PS5) also tear slightly
Verdict:
- DF preferred the Performance mode on PS5/SX
- On Series S the choice is less clear, usually they would go for 30fps but there's no motion blur here that can make it a bit harder to recommend
- Solid experience on current gen consoles
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
The good thing about performance mode is every character is nonbinary because you can’t make out wtf is happening on screen.
Nice mobile game from 2010, stupid. It would be less insulting if they just locked it at 30 fps and be done with it.
Nice mobile game from 2010, stupid. It would be less insulting if they just locked it at 30 fps and be done with it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The good thing about performance mode is every character is nonbinary because you can’t make out wtf is happening on screen.
Nice mobile game from 2010, stupid. It would be less insulting if they just locked it at 30 fps and be done with it.
Sneak peak at DA: V Performance Mode
Kacho
Gold Member
Holy shit that's insaneThe good thing about performance mode is every character is nonbinary because you can’t make out wtf is happening on screen.
Nice mobile game from 2010, stupid. It would be less insulting if they just locked it at 30 fps and be done with it.
Wolves hunt in packs
Member
At least they mentioned that the FSR this time doesn't have too much shimmering etc, need to have a demo to see for myself.
ManaByte
Banned
Whew. One week until the Pro!
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Impressive visuals?
Kacho
Gold Member
A return to formImpressive visuals?
1080p for Performance mode. It could drop lower when busy, but typical res should be around 1080p. Fidelity should be around 1440p. With PSSR i expect both mode to look much better especially the fidelity mode.
I do hope they offer the 40fps mode, but seeing the base consoles don't have it, I guess it is a no.
MetalFreak
Member
PSSR is really going to make those mastectomy scars pop....
Senua
Gold Member
PS5 is a BEASTThe good thing about performance mode is every character is nonbinary because you can’t make out wtf is happening on screen.
Luipadre
Gold Member
Yeah 1080p to 4k with pssr should look better than fidelity on base
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
480p on XSS lmfao
SEGAvangelist
Member
God this game just looks worse and worse.
Not bad considering the PS5/SX resolutions. LOL.
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Little Chicken
Gold Member
No reason for the Xbox Series X to be the same as the PS5 when it's a stronger console with FSR 3.0.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
As much as I would love to join you in riling up the Sonybros this one is firmly on Bioware
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
"Impressive visuals"
Shill foundry on the rescue. Though something telling me that incels will win again.
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SEGAvangelist
Member
Just thinking how Alan Wake for Xbox 360 had a higher res. Amazing.
sncvsrtoip
Member
Internal res drops to 540p in perf. mode without any rt, ps5/xsx are not the newest hw but new generation of game devs have massive skill issue with perf. optimization
ManaByte
Banned
540p on the big consoles.
Fbh
Member
Meanwhile, with the same engine, on last gen consoles, running at actual 1300-1440p on Pro and 1800p-4K on the 1X, 60fps and also including an online multiplayer with 64 simultaneous players (+ additional bots and air + ground battles)
And yeah I know not every element holds up and there are definitely things that DA is doing better. But is the visual upgrade we've gotten really worth 9X LOWER resolution?
And yeah I know not every element holds up and there are definitely things that DA is doing better. But is the visual upgrade we've gotten really worth 9X LOWER resolution?
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Fake
Member
Even disappear if the AI is smart.
proandrad
Member
I don’t think it’s a skill issue, it’s a time investment issue. Have to meet that deadline.
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Desprado123
Member
Something is seriously wrong with Console port as RTX 3060 on Ultra settings and Ray tracing on without upscale got 45 to 55 fps on 1080p according to digital trend.
"It’s not too demanding, either. With the Ultra preset and selective ray tracing on, I was able to get between 45 and 55 frames per second (fps) with the RTX 3060 at 1080p, even during combat, and that was without any upscaling. With DLSS set to Quality mode, I was easily hitting over 60 fps."
www.digitaltrends.com
"It’s not too demanding, either. With the Ultra preset and selective ray tracing on, I was able to get between 45 and 55 frames per second (fps) with the RTX 3060 at 1080p, even during combat, and that was without any upscaling. With DLSS set to Quality mode, I was easily hitting over 60 fps."
Dragon Age: The Veilguard is a breath of fresh air on PC
I assumed Dragon Age: The Veilguard would have problems on PC, but I'm very happy to report that I was wrong.
www.digitaltrends.com
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xenosys
Member
The good thing about performance mode is every character is nonbinary because you can’t make out wtf is happening on screen.
Nice mobile game from 2010, stupid. It would be less insulting if they just locked it at 30 fps and be done with it.
Fucking hell, that has to rival Rebirth as the worst performance mode GOTY.
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intbal
Member
OG Xbox had fifty games that ran at 720p.
Some of them were persistent open world games.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
How the F can they call that pixelated SHIT "impressive visuals?"
I've seen them nitpick the most minor shit in insanely better looking games. They've lost the damned plot.
I've seen them nitpick the most minor shit in insanely better looking games. They've lost the damned plot.
These all bad res on the base consoles but they are not comparable. The ps5/sx typical res at 720p vs 480p on the s.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
540p for this ugly looking game is clearly a developer issue.
Anthem didnt drop that low on base ps4 and looked better.
Anthem didnt drop that low on base ps4 and looked better.
winjer
Member
Forget about TFLOPs. This game delivers more "pronouns per second", than any that came before.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Fucking Digishill Foundry, they/them tards.
Horseganador
Member
All the console versions are a mess, I don't understand what is going through the mind of a company that thinks shipping a game with 540p drops is okay.
TheTony316
Member
The good thing about performance mode is every character is nonbinary because you can’t make out wtf is happening on screen.
Nice mobile game from 2010, stupid. It would be less insulting if they just locked it at 30 fps and be done with it.
All 4 look like shit tbh.