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[Project EVE]

Basically you have to censor or not releasing the game at all in the West, because the platform holders wouldn't allow it(especially in the Western market)!
There is a chance your game could be locked out of being released entirely if the platform holder rejected it in the West, so they have to play it safe(to release in Asia only as Asia is less strict currently).

This is absolutely out of their control and it's completely random as the platform holders dictate the policy!! Some games are allowed and some are NOT based on arbitrary reason!!! How heart-breaking it is to make a game that your fans want but got canned or forced censorship by the platform holders and then got called COWARDS by the fans and then your games failed and then you lost your job!!!!!!!!!

So don't blame the victims as the platform holders are the one to be blamed(especially in the Western market), please.

What can we do then?? For me I'll fully support game companies who make sexy games(I buy multiple copies of them), and keep writing to the platform holders who are rejecting these games. It's a sad reality but that's the world we're living in, so we must do what we can. We need to keep fighting!! If we don't buy these games no one else will.

 

[Project EVE]

No one would want to make a game then only released in limited market, or wasting time making content and then censor that. They have to listen to the bosses-the platform holders: be it Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, or Valve.

I believe we can win the battle if we can unite and do the right thing. Support our heroes and heroines!!

 

[LordCBH]

The only thing that should matter is this: does the game attain an age rating that allows it on the platform?

If yes, then there should be no censorship and the platform holders should have to let it release. Let the market decide what will sell or not.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

Steam rejected it? sounds a little off, there are porn games on steam.....

 

[nial]

Steam rejected it? sounds a little off, there are porn games on steam.....

Yes, as they did with several games before.

 

[March Climber]

Even Asia wouldn't allow the minigame

It was rejected by Steam

I know OP wants a culture war thread from that title but something's off here.

 

[SHA]

Eastern people don't want real women, that's on them.

 

[nial]

I know OP wants a culture war thread from that title but something's off here.

They mean that both Steam and Nintendo Asia (as opposed to only NA/Europe) won't allow the minigame.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Peach upskirt DLC patch. Only $10.

 

[DaciaJC]

Any context regarding what game is being discussed in the OP?

 

[Edgelord79]

Steam rejected it? sounds a little off, there are porn games on steam.....

I’m also struggling with this a bit. There are A LOT of adult oriented games on Steam. There is no context to what was rejected; what exactly it entailed, etc…

 

[The Cockatrice]

I know OP wants a culture war thread from that title but something's off here.

Theres sex with Hitler on Steam so the fact that this guys game was not allowed and based on the stuff they made I'm gonna go ahead and say its some pedophile shit.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

millions of womens' lives saved

 

[s_mirage]

I’m also struggling with this a bit. There are A LOT of adult oriented games on Steam. There is no context to what was rejected; what exactly it entailed, etc…

This has happened before. It's like there's a rogue content reviewer at Valve, and if your game has even slightly racy content and gets given to them, it gets rejected. Doubly likely if it's anime style.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Must've been one hell of a smutty minigame for Valve to say no. Even Nintendo is releasing borderline porn games on Eshop. Absolutely no quality control whatsoever.

 

[Crayon]

What kind of games are these guys making? There's a range of sexy. Try turning off the adult filter on steam LOL.

 

[Last Hearth]

This probably why DOAX was not released in the west, and why I had to use a VPN to even have the game show up to buy on Steam.

 

[rm082e]

I’m also struggling with this a bit. There are A LOT of adult oriented games on Steam. There is no context to what was rejected; what exactly it entailed, etc…

 

[GHG]

Yes, as they did with several games before.

Must be an age-rating or categorisation issue.

There are a ton of games on Steam which are straight up pornographic.

He must have wanted it to be categorised (and have visibility) like a standard title.

 

[Moriarty1889]

What a bunch of wankers.

 

[Holammer]

Steam rejected it? sounds a little off, there are porn games on steam.....

That's because characters are adults in those games.

Pictured: Anime game publisher trying to convince Nintendo and Valve the characters are 21 years old.

 

[Soodanim]

Nothing makes an OP look unstable quicker than an overuse of exclamation marks and random BLOCK CAP shouting.

 

[Project EVE]

Any context regarding what game is being discussed in the OP?

I believe the game EastAsiaSoft was talking about is Tokyo Clanpool, and from what I see from the screenshots there's nothing wrong with the game?


But this thread isn't only about a specific game but rather for the whole gaming culture being treated unfairly.

 

[nial]

Must be an age-rating or categorisation issue.

There are a ton of games on Steam which are straight up pornographic.

He must have wanted it to be categorised (and have visibility) like a standard title.

I'm not too knowledgeable on the matter outside of just knowing that some developers had issues launching their games on Steam. Perhaps, it all comes down to which team within Valve gets to approve your submission?
graywolf323 said something along these lines in another thread:

Steam is notorious for being nothing if not inconsistent with their approach to this, there’s seemingly one lady on their approval team that if a publisher gets assigned to her for a game like this it’s an automatic rejection

there’s also no appeals process nor are you even allowed to make changes & then resubmit, the only time I think Steam has EVER changed a ban was for Mages/Spike Chunsoft when they initially rejected the latest in the Sci Adv series

BTW, we've all discussed in that thread the recent events of restriction guidelines at Nintendo that have been affecting some titles out there, for anyone interested.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Steam has full blown wild as fuck, as fuck, extremely explicit porno on it, so I'm scratching my head on how steam rejected them.

 

[Project EVE]

The only thing that should matter is this: does the game attain an age rating that allows it on the platform?

If yes, then there should be no censorship and the platform holders should have to let it release. Let the market decide what will sell or not.

As I said above this thread is not for just one game, so here's another game getting unfair treatment:

Neptunia Riders VS Dogoos digital pre-orders open January 2, 2025; Switch version DLC ‘Swimsuit Costume Set’ canceled

Neptunia Riders VS Dogoos digital pre-orders will open on January 2, 2025 in the west, publisher Idea Factory International announced. The game is due out for PlayStation 5, PlayStation 4, and Swit…

www.gematsu.com

This is an E+10 game rated by the ESRB

 

[mckmas8808]

I know OP wants a culture war thread from that title but something's off here.

I peeped that too. Dude thought he'd keep some of that under the carpet LOL!

 

[ReyBrujo]

So, I have been reading about how his game got censored in some threads and didn't care much about that but now I see Tokyo Clanpool is a first-person dungeon crawler... so can't help it, gotta buy the Switch version. At least all this chitchatting made me check the game and realize I had to buy it.

 

[kevboard]

as someone who once was mainly a console player, I can't wait till all consoles are a thing of the past and everything will just release on open platforms like Windows or Linux in the future.

consoles are slowly but surely loosing their purpose anyway. PC is the future, and even there the dominance of Steam will hopefully slowly fade.

 

[ArtHands]

I usually buy them on Steam if not GOG so it doesn’t affect me

 

[Project EVE]

I’m also struggling with this a bit. There are A LOT of adult oriented games on Steam.

That's the whole point of this thread. Adult games approved on Steam and Hentai naming games allowed on the Nintendo Eshop while games like Neptunia get canned.

Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth trilogy and Death end re;Quest: Code Z for Switch canceled for the west [Update]

The Switch versions of Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth1, Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth2: Sisters Generation, Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth3: V Generation, and Death end re;Quest: Code Z will…

www.gematsu.com

Reason the platform holders wouldn't give a clear guideline to devs is simple: They want to keep us divided and some of us would just defend the huge corporations instead, and make baseless assumptions like this:

I'm gonna go ahead and say its some pedophile shit.

What a bunch of wankers.

As soon as the platform holders destroyed games with sexual appeal they will be going after your favorite games like violent and horror games. We are just in their way.

 

[Moriarty1889]

Just saw this on another site……coming to PC…..

 

[SScorpio]

That's because characters are adults in those games.

Pictured: Anime game publisher trying to convince Nintendo and Valve the characters are 21 years old.

21? They're all secretly 5,000 year old dragons.

 

[IAmRei]

is it Tokyo Clan Pool?
if yes, that's too bad, the game looks could satisfy some of dungeon crawler first person rpg tho

 

[Rudius]

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

What mini game was censored?

 

[Power Pro]

I feel like I could go on and on about why these stupid rules and restrictions are stupid. Or even if there was "questionable" content in the games, who the fuck cares, because it's a fucking drawing.

Personally, I've always considered myself not into the "pedo" shit, because yes, pedophilia is gross, but most of the times, the characters I think are sexy or cute in the types of anime games...they look mature, and just might dress in cute outfits. Regardless, they still physically look like an adult a lot of the time, and so who the fuck cares. It's a fucking drawing.

Let's say for the sake of argument, let's just say...okay, these characters are minors and are wearing sexy outfits...questionable? sure, illegal? not really, because some teens like to wear sexy outfits. Girls when i was a teen did. Let's just say it was illegal for teens to dress sexy...why is some illegal acts okay to depict in video games, and not others? why can we depict brutal violence and murder, things that would be called snuff films if it was real, but because it's fictional, it's completely okay. well in these cases, we're not only depicting fictional characters, we're depicting something THAT IS MOSTLY A FUCKING DRAWING. "looks young" does not even apply in my head most of the time, because to me...it looks like a fucking drawing. You could say a character is 10, 12, 15, years old...and in reality, it's as old as when pencil was applied to paper. Is it kiddie porn if i draw a old looking naked person, but have a speech bubble above their heads that say "I have benjamin button's disease, so I'm 4 years old"?

It's just...ugh, this bull shit about censoring anything, when it's not even that bad, or has been allowed numerous times already drives me fucking nuts. I'm an adult, let me buy the fucking games I want, and let the people who don't want it, not have to buy it.

I was really looking forward to potentially getting the Hyperdimension games if they got a physical english release at some point, but now...if i want any physical copy, i'd have to stick with the janky Vita versions.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Just saw this on another site……coming to PC…..

been out for a long time

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

I'm not too knowledgeable on the matter outside of just knowing that some developers had issues launching their games on Steam. Perhaps, it all comes down to which team within Valve gets to approve your submission?
graywolf323 said something along these lines in another thread:

BTW, we've all discussed in that thread the recent events of restriction guidelines at Nintendo that have been affecting some titles out there, for anyone interested.

I just see your avatar and it's a chibi... I want to pinch those cheeks.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Just saw this on another site……coming to PC…..

Lol.
I thought it was a Resident Evil 2 remake Mod.

 

[digital_ghost]

Lol.
I thought it was a Resident Evil 2 remake Mod.

Only thing scarier than zombies is nude fat zombies .

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Only thing scarier than zombies is nude fat zombies .

That character from Dead by Deadlight scared me.

 

[MayauMiao]

Steam rejected it? sounds a little off, there are porn games on steam.....

Plenty of it, right down to showing dicks in the screenshots.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

I wonder if they've looked into putting the game on a storefront like JAST. Any filth you want is gonna fly on there.

 

[March Climber]

Personally, I've always considered myself not into the "pedo" shit, because yes, pedophilia is gross, but most of the times....*long rant*

 

[Power Pro]

 

[FunkMiller]

Basically you have to censor or not releasing the game at all in the West, because the platform holders wouldn't allow it(especially in the Western market)!
There is a chance your game could be locked out of being released entirely if the platform holder rejected it in the West, so they have to play it safe(to release in Asia only as Asia is less strict currently).

This is absolutely out of their control and it's completely random as the platform holders dictate the policy!! Some games are allowed and some are NOT based on arbitrary reason!!! How heart-breaking it is to make a game that your fans want but got canned or forced censorship by the platform holders and then got called COWARDS by the fans and then your games failed and then you lost your job!!!!!!!!!

So don't blame the victims as the platform holders are the one to be blamed(especially in the Western market), please.

What can we do then?? For me I'll fully support game companies who make sexy games(I buy multiple copies of them), and keep writing to the platform holders who are rejecting these games. It's a sad reality but that's the world we're living in, so we must do what we can. We need to keep fighting!! If we don't buy these games no one else will.

What was the SPECIFIC reason this game was banned on Steam OP? Because you could be defending some pedo shit here.

 

[Yoda]

I see like a new porn game on steam every hour?? Anyone know what's in the mini game?

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

The only thing that should matter is this: does the game attain an age rating that allows it on the platform?

If yes, then there should be no censorship and the platform holders should have to let it release. Let the market decide what will sell or not.

It's not always that easy. Countries like Germany for instance legally require you to "make sure" that an R rated games doesn't get into the hands of minors, meaning: there has to be some age check in place like a digital ID or a scan of some official document to proof youre an adult. It's all very silly but this kind of legislation is the reason so many Steam titles are outright banned from German users (well that and the fact many didnt even try the German censorship age rating system)..

 

[SweetTooth]

Yeah I don't think its East vs West here Mr.French, too many red flags in the story