Great Hair
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Japanese Scientists Reveal World’s First 3D-Printed Wagyu Beef
Osaka University researchers used stem cells isolated from Wagyu cows to create the steaks.
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Japanese Scientists Reveal World's First 3D-Printed Wagyu Beef
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FunkMiller
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If it looks and tastes like the real thing, I'd eat that shit.
Spaceman292
Banned
Yeah. It's not like this could cure world hunger or anything. They should be focused on making smart phones thinner.
GymWolf
Member
Aren't insects the way of the future for world hunger?!
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NecrosaroIII
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Kobe beef / wagyu is overrated.
Pagusas
Elden Member
not just world hunger, this could be a HUGE help to global warming also. Not to mention the lessening of animal cruelty.
Punished Miku
Banned
3D printing food is just a few steps away from Star Trek. Still would have to buy the printer and the materials, so not sure how cost effective it really is. Even the poorest countries can farm. But it's certainly interesting.
Pagusas
Elden Member
I imagine in 40 - 50 years, if this process is something that can be miniaturized and industrialized, think of a supply chain where every supermarket or restaurants has their own processing machine and all that is sent to them is vats of raw materials. The simplification of the supply chain would be amazing, and it would allow artistry to form in how these things are made. Real meet would become a supreme delicacy, which is fine as its cost on the environment is too large to support 7 billion people on.
kunonabi
Member
For the brief time I was there all the beef I had in Japan was really good. Even the fast food beef was much better than what I get in the states most of the time.
borborygmus
Member
I worry about prion disease. If this does cause it, we won't find out for decades.
Spaceman292
Banned
That too. We've got a few irons in the fire
triplestation
Member
who wants to eat a freak science experiment
jonnyp
Member
Just sounds like you got some lower quality in Tokyo that's all.
Pagusas
Elden Member
i mean you basically are eating science experiments everyday unless you are on a totally organic/natural diet. All those processed foods, all that fun chemistry to make unique flavors, or the preservatives allowing such food to sit on a shelf.
triplestation
Member
i get you but this is not the same its goddamn lab grown meat
cook an egg thats science too
this shit is some mutant tier shit
bender
What time is it?
No different than eating a banana.
StormCell
Member
People have basically been eating fake or fabricated steaks for a very long time without even knowing. This sounds better than what the ol' butcher has been doing as a matter of trade secret. All those scraps left over from butchering and making fine cuts make for another "nice cut" when pasted back together! Apparently few people ever know the difference.
At least with this, you know exactly what you're getting and it's probably a higher grade than the stuff being pasted together. Not to mention this will release far far less methane into the atmosphere.
At least with this, you know exactly what you're getting and it's probably a higher grade than the stuff being pasted together. Not to mention this will release far far less methane into the atmosphere.
GymWolf
Member
well fake wagyu beef seems more delicious than a fried tarantula, i give you that.
triplestation
Member
if they made meaty cows keep fucking meaty cows to get meatier cows then yeah
this is some lab x-16 shit
Hunt or buy your meat from local farms in your area that don’t raise beef on mass scale and they also don’t pump the animals with all the extras that mass production does
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West Texas CEO
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I'm glad I'll be dead before this becomes a thing.
poodaddy
Member
For sure I want to try to get into that at some point. I need to find some farms like that in my area for sure.
The Pleasure
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Wagyu sounds like a Japanese sex move.
Great Hair
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Don´t we have to kill them anyway, to maintain eco-bio-balance? Aren´t cattle already contributing 20% alone to the CO2 footprint (global). If we stopped eating them, would they not start to breed like rats ... at the end, we´re still going to have to butcher them.
Claim that cows have more impact on climate than cars depends on the timescale
Because methane is a more potent—but much shorter-lived—greenhouse gas than CO2, the timeframe has to be defined for this statement. After about a decade, methane gets converted to CO2, which can stay in the atmosphere for centuries. Cows do have a greater impact in the near-term, but likely are...
climatefeedback.org
The impact of meat to global warming - Methane and CO2
A cow does on overage release between 70 and 120 kg of Methane per year. Methane is a greenhouse gas like carbon dioxide (CO2). But the negative effect on the climate of Methane is 23 times higher than the effect of CO2. Therefore the release of about 100 kg Methane per year for each cow is...
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Torrent of Pork
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I'm glad that we can have an adult conversation about lab-grown meat here without some deranged sociopath immediately starting a thread about whether or not we'd try lab-grown human meat like a certain community does on a regular basis.
Pagusas
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Don´t we have to kill them anyway, to maintain eco-bio-balance? Aren´t cattle already contributing 20% alone to the CO2 footprint (global). If we stopped eating them, would they not start to breed like rats ... at the end, we´re still going to have to butcher them.
Claim that cows have more impact on climate than cars depends on the timescale
Because methane is a more potent—but much shorter-lived—greenhouse gas than CO2, the timeframe has to be defined for this statement. After about a decade, methane gets converted to CO2, which can stay in the atmosphere for centuries. Cows do have a greater impact in the near-term, but likely are...The impact of meat to global warming - Methane and CO2
A cow does on overage release between 70 and 120 kg of Methane per year. Methane is a greenhouse gas like carbon dioxide (CO2). But the negative effect on the climate of Methane is 23 times higher than the effect of CO2. Therefore the release of about 100 kg Methane per year for each cow is...
We literally intentionally breed them, we'd stop doing that. Yes population control will be the responsibility of humans on this planet, but we already do that with many other animals.
triplestation
Member
fish breed like wildfire
why are they so expensive
why are they so expensive
Tschumi
Member
... beef in Japan is a fucking downer.
For starters it's hugely expensive, that meme steak in the op would cost like $60 here (I'm guessing it's, what, 200g ? Dunno the imperial conversion)
Secondly it is consequently used in very small quantities unless you want to pay for a $50 dish in which case the quantity becomes mid sized
Thirdly, like sish ruins a kebab, they fucking love a nice long stringy string of cartilage to get caught in your teeth or dangle a chunk down your gullet causing you to think you're about to die choking, or a nice little sliver of kneecap to crunch into, tacked onto every fucking steak..
Fourthly, they hate it to be at all al-dente, much like with chicken they think: "why cook anything when you can half cook it?", nobody here seems to get the value of a half-kilo, inch-thick steak fresh off the grille, slightly charred and guaranteed to be a fantastic counterpart to the potato mash situated elsewhere on your fork...
FifthLY, it's all fucking depressing because like you guys i expected Japan to be home of the perfect "Wagyu Steak", but their idea of a perfect steak is so fucking riddled with marbling that it tastes like you're biting into a hamburger patty.
... You might find a real steak at a foreign restaurant, but they'll be charging fuckloads for it too, and you might get some US Steak in certain supermarkets that fits my description, but I'd rather not suddenly sprout red hair on the undersides of my forearms tyvm.
So, no, i don't care about this 3d printed wagyu, because i am le triggered by everything beef related in Japan.
For starters it's hugely expensive, that meme steak in the op would cost like $60 here (I'm guessing it's, what, 200g ? Dunno the imperial conversion)
Secondly it is consequently used in very small quantities unless you want to pay for a $50 dish in which case the quantity becomes mid sized
Thirdly, like sish ruins a kebab, they fucking love a nice long stringy string of cartilage to get caught in your teeth or dangle a chunk down your gullet causing you to think you're about to die choking, or a nice little sliver of kneecap to crunch into, tacked onto every fucking steak..
Fourthly, they hate it to be at all al-dente, much like with chicken they think: "why cook anything when you can half cook it?", nobody here seems to get the value of a half-kilo, inch-thick steak fresh off the grille, slightly charred and guaranteed to be a fantastic counterpart to the potato mash situated elsewhere on your fork...
FifthLY, it's all fucking depressing because like you guys i expected Japan to be home of the perfect "Wagyu Steak", but their idea of a perfect steak is so fucking riddled with marbling that it tastes like you're biting into a hamburger patty.
... You might find a real steak at a foreign restaurant, but they'll be charging fuckloads for it too, and you might get some US Steak in certain supermarkets that fits my description, but I'd rather not suddenly sprout red hair on the undersides of my forearms tyvm.
So, no, i don't care about this 3d printed wagyu, because i am le triggered by everything beef related in Japan.
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SentientStone
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In 200 years I shall exist as the one they call Meateus...
You take the blue pill...the story ends, you wake up in your dining room eating steak as usual, believing what you believe.
You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you what steak tasted like in the year 2020.
You take the blue pill...the story ends, you wake up in your dining room eating steak as usual, believing what you believe.
You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you what steak tasted like in the year 2020.
Keihart
Member
most crops and plants that we eat have been modified from hell and back so pretty sure we already do.
Zenaku
Member
You actually have a point there.
Fishermen head out in the morning, catch some fish and take them back to be sold, only to do the exact same thing the next day. Livestock farmers have to feed their stock, care for them, pay for all the veterinary requirements, clean up after them day-in day-out for months or years before they can sell them on.
Each lb of beef takes far more effort than each lb of fish, so why are fish so expensive?
Reminds me of when Jeremy on Top Gear/Grand Tour compared petrol to spring water;
Drilling with multimillion pound equipment, spend time and money on refinement and all the other stages to get usable petrol sold at £1.35 a liter
VS
Stick a bottle under a spring for 10 seconds, slap a label on and sell for £3 a litre
Be interesting to see if prices for real meat goes up or down should this ever become the norm.
GymWolf
Member
If you ever tasted real wagyu, we are really not that far...