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[Zombie James]

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/...xbox-ones-internals-while-disclosing-nothing/

Similarly, the company claimed that there was more than 200GB of bandwidth within the system. Again, the number had no context or clarification and if rumors are to be believed, it suggests some rather creative accounting: 68 GB main memory bandwidth, 102GB bandwidth to an embedded SRAM buffer for the GPU, and 30GB bandwidth between the CPU and GPU. While that does add up to 200GB, there are no two parts of the SoC that can communicate with each other at 200 GB/s. The fastest link is believed to be the GPU read performance, which can aggregate across the main memory and SRAM buffer for 170 GB total.

I have two cars, one goes 80mph and the other goes 90mph... I have 170mph cars!

 

[i-Lo]

What's more they said OVER 200 GBPS. Sad.

 

[mintylurb]

You have slow cars, leech.

 

[Dennis]

Don't worry, Microsoft.

That point will go over the head of 90% of gamers and 99% of games journalists.

 

[Zombie James]

You have slow cars, leech.

I'm Canadian and it's late.

 

[RomanticHeroX]

Taking lessons from the Jaguar?

 

[nib95]

Microsoft has been busting out with PR BS all day really.

 

[i-Lo]

Don't worry, Microsoft.

That point will go over the head of 90% of gamers and 99% of games journalists.

Arthur Gies however will teach you exactly how it was added up and why it's accurate on twitter.

 

[Klocker]

[The fastest link is believed to be the GPU read performance, which can aggregate across the main memory and SRAM buffer for 170 GB total.

so you CAN add those two together for GPU read speed... cool

 

[i-Lo]

so you CAN add those two together for GPU read speed... cool

That still won't be accurate.

 

[KarmaCow]

Wow that bullshit marketing speak about 200GB/s really sticks out compared to the rest of the conferences.

 

[Striek]

Why would they even claim 200GB/s. Thats way down on what they claimed last generation (this is from their PR release in E3 2005):

 

[SneakyStephan]

so you CAN add those two together for GPU read speed... cool

Yes for 32 MB of it...

As soon as you have more than 32MB of data that needs a decent bandwidth you are screwed.

My cpu has 6MB of l3 cache for specific tasks that has over 350GB/sec bandwidth , that doesn't mean the ram bandwidth is 356GB/sec

 

[abadguy]

And in the end it will mean fuck all to the consumer who just sees the purdy grafixxxx.

 

[Yagharek]

Taking lessons from the Jaguar?

Where do the bits go?

 

[DC R1D3R]

Listen MS who are you trying to kid? If you're not built for this..just piss off and go home. Embarrassing.

 

[Daingurse]

Taking lessons from the Jaguar?

Hahaha.

 

[googleplex]

so you CAN add those two together for GPU read speed... cool

No....No you cant. just add those two numbers together.

 

[Broken Joystick]

Arthur Gies however will teach you exactly how it was added up and why it's accurate on twitter.

I don't want to shit up the thread with Gies but damm this got me :lol

 

[Brad Grenz]

so you CAN add those two together for GPU read speed... cool

For the infinitesimal amount of time it takes you to exhaust 32MB at that rate, then you run out of data so you have to move more in which takes as much bandwidth as just reading directly from DDR3 so you might as well do that instead of setting up pointless aggregated memory sprints.

 

[artist]

What's next? Xbox ONE has more RAM?

 

[BobTheFork]

Jaguar math is the best gaming math.

 

[Razgreez]

What's next? Xbox ONE has more RAM?

Well you have all that RAM on over 300K servers which you're able to access freely... apparently. You'll never want for RAM again

 

[artist]

Well you have all that RAM on over 300K servers which you're able to access freely... apparently. You'll never want for RAM again

Greater Field of View? Fuck!

Well, it does have more ram..8GB + 32MB. +1 for X1.

 

[mintylurb]

What's next? Xbox ONE has more RAM?

Well, it does have more ram..8GB + 32MB. +1 for X1.

 

[mysteriousmage09]

MS, just stop.

 

[Wishmaster92]

Ok i seriously need some sleep now.

 

[TheGreyHulk]

so you CAN add those two together for GPU read speed... cool

"Aggregate"

"An aggregate is a collection of items that are gathered together to form a total quantity."

It's not the same as full read speed from point b to point a. It's like getting point d, c, b to point a, each at diff speeds, and calling the sum the total read speed.

 

[GDGF]

DO + THE = MATH

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

That spin....

 

[Barakov]

Microsoft's bad Tuesday is about to become a bad Wednesday.

 

[Jburton]

Microsoft has been busting out with PR BS all day really.

And CG trailers ...... which Sony got crucified for last time and staged demos on stage.

The only thing legit was the ugly ass box.

 

[i-Lo]

Microsoft's bad Tuesday is about to become a bad Wednesday.

I don't know why but this made laugh harder than it should've. Thanks.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

This is painful. MS, WTF are you doing.

 

[exmachina64]

Well you have all that RAM on over 300K servers which you're able to access freely... apparently. You'll never want for RAM again

An exabyte of RAM should be enough for anyone.

 

[K.Sabot]

T3H R4MS!!!

Do we have any images of how the architecture interacts like we did with the PS4?

 

[Drayken]

It was a very very bad conference for MS, smoke on the eyes of pseudo-gamers...

 

[Ravage]

Mainstream media will eat this shit up. That's why they won't stop lying anytime soon.

 

[Evolution_1ne]

Irony

 

[frankie_baby]

Cooking the numbers like that could get even the Wii u over 200

 

[intheinbetween]

And CG trailers ...... which Sony got crucified for last time and staged demos on stage.

The only thing legit was the ugly ass box.

were the trailers/teasers shown yesterday claimed as ingame? I don't think so

 

[$200]

GetFudgedPopulation()?

 

[crazy_about_denise]

Obviously thy are aiming for people not interested in exact numbers nor the WiiU and are interested in TV shows + Gadgets + multiplat games.

 

[dgrdsv]

Well they have to do something to be better than PS4 on paper.

 

[ShinobiFist]

Yo, the past 24hrs has been amazing for MS. Don't stop with the madness MS.

 

[onQ123]

Well, it does have more ram..8GB + 32MB. +1 for X1.

Cerny isn't going to let this happen! PS4 64MB of Audio Memory coming up!

 

[HazardBob]

Don't worry, Microsoft.

That point will go over the head of 90% of gamers and 99% of games journalists.

hahaha

So true, unfortunately.

 

[Raist]

Not surprising, they did the same shit with the 360.

 

[soulassssns]

Wow, just wow

 

[Kibbles]

Why would they even claim 200GB/s. Thats way down on what they claimed last generation (this is from their PR release in E3 2005):

Lol wtf