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Nevermind. weekly average was down, but total sales were up for 360 last year. 360 launch in 2005 seems to be the latest. Outside of shortages or dying consoles, almost never probably, though.
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NPD December 2012 Sales Results [Up2: Xbox 360, All Nintendo Hardware, NSMB Wii U]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Edit:
Nevermind. weekly average was down, but total sales were up for 360 last year. 360 launch in 2005 seems to be the latest. Outside of shortages or dying consoles, almost never probably, though.
twilight princess was held over a year because it was being ported to the wii (and i guess really polished on the gc)
super mario galaxy 2 was done around the same time or earlier than nsmbw, but nsmbw was given priority, so smg2 didn't launch until 7 months later.
skyward sword was actually complete before e3 2011 (early 2011 is the only timeframe we have), and nintendo kept it around so they'd have a big holiday title.
KillerTravis
Banned
Remember, that top 3rd party Vita game is also the top selling game in general.
outunderthestars
Banned
Square is releasing FF3 for the Ouya. I have more hope for Android long term as a gaming platform than I do iOS. Android has native controller support now, and with multiple companies releasing android gaming products this year we should see more android game support.
The market was open yesterday.
You are reading it wrong. That is an ADR. Their ticker symbol is 7974, listed on the Nikkei 225.
On the second point, I must not have been clear in my original post. I wasn't talking about since the Wii U launched. I was referencing the company's stock performance today.
TheUnknownForce
Member
I think 2013 will be better for 3DS than 2012.
Q1 - Brain Age, Fire Emblem, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon vs Kid Icarus
Q2 - Probably Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon vs Mario Tennis Open and Ghost Camera
Q3 - Probably Animal Crossing: NL vs 3DS XL and NSMB2
Q4 - Pokemon X&Y vs Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Prof Layton, et. al.
With more games to be announced probably being Zelda and something from Alpha Dream (and random games from SPD probably), the lineup will definitely help keep people buying.
At the very least, it should do better than 2012 until August. By then, new games should be announced and momentum could keep up. Also, price drop by Fall is expected. DS will see one final price drop before production ends officially by the end of the year.
Wii U has LEGO, Wii Fit U and G+W this quarter...not good to build momentum. Pikmin 3 will be a nice blip on the radar, but Wii U will only do okay until Nintendo's first big release setup this holiday (Retro, 3D Mario, Good-Feel probably, etc). I say new game announcements will happen sooner rather than later.
SE would probably be better off with their games on the 3DS and getting meh sells then they would with the prices(and compromises) they decide on for their iOS products when it comes to ports.
metalslimer
Member
I meant hold back between regions. Obviously they've held back actually releasing a product, but Animal Crossing is already out in japan, there is no need at all to hold it back and doing so would just be a sign of Nintendo's incompetence. The 3DS is not in a position where they can hold back games. It's not like 3DS's 2012 is stacked beyond belief from Nintendo.
Technically it's only the 5th functional year.
Monumental
Banned
Wow. That is...something. And here on Neogaf we actually have people talking about Sony recapturing momentum for next-gen.
TheNatural
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4 of the top 5 are bundles though. If Nintendo decided to stick, say, Resident Evil in a bundle and your only option to get the system was through various third party bundles - whatever those bundles were would have done 3, 4 times as much as their current numbers.
It's really not comparable, though. There is no third-party Vita game that has sold > 200K without bundles. There are 8 third-party 3DS games over that number, though. Sure the number would be higher going to back to DS/PSP to compare, but just saying that the Vita chart is not really on a similar scale to the 3DS chart.
oh well there aren't many cases of that. the localization of fire emblem: awakening has taken about ten months, but i suppose that's not a 'big' game.
metalslimer
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Yeah I don't think PS3's horrendous December sales are getting enough attention. I mean I guess people are just writing it off as this gen being long in the tooth, and Sony not having a pricedrop, but still.
RukusProvider
Banned
Sony should save the press release for when they do another forecast revision.
Atleast Nintendo will be able to copy/paste their efforts.
Atleast Nintendo will be able to copy/paste their efforts.
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have used the word comparable. And you're right that bundles are jacking up the AC and CoD numbers.
But still, we're talking about a system that struggled to break a million after countless months in comparison to a system with over 7 million sold.
That 3DS list is really, really bad.
I own 8 vita games and none from retail, all DL from PSN. Not disagreeing with overall point, but I feel DD sales of vita does make impact on NPD
Yeah, there's a whole lot of room for improvement in 3DS software sales, including third-party sales. DS was buoyed by a lot of kid/everyone oriented software like GBA was. We'll see if Pokemon X/Y can bring in more of that crowd. Wouldn't help a game like RE:R, but could possibly help overall software numbers. Games need to be cheaper or just start a Player's Choice line or something, too. :/
TheNatural
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Merged 3DS and Vita standalone titles with no bundles:
500k>
bird
>400k>
ssf4
logo sw3
kh3d
sonic
>300k>
mario sonic
skylanders
logo potc
>200k>
re:r
asphalt
logo batman2
rayman
cars2
mk
umvc3
u13
mlb12
mr:rt
3DS games bolded. This isn't including titles from 100K to 150K for 3DS as well, but is including those for Vita. It's not really comparable when you take out the bundles, albeit not knowing what they sold standalone. They were obviously spurred by their bundle sales though looking in comparison with the standalone titles.
500k>
bird
>400k>
ssf4
logo sw3
kh3d
sonic
>300k>
mario sonic
skylanders
logo potc
>200k>
re:r
asphalt
logo batman2
rayman
cars2
mk
umvc3
u13
mlb12
mr:rt
3DS games bolded. This isn't including titles from 100K to 150K for 3DS as well, but is including those for Vita. It's not really comparable when you take out the bundles, albeit not knowing what they sold standalone. They were obviously spurred by their bundle sales though looking in comparison with the standalone titles.
bigtroyjon
Member
PS3 shitty sales aren't really surprising to me, Fred Meyers(northwest grocery/department chain) was advertising the PS3 last week pretty hard and the game they were highlighting while advertising it was Twisted Metal.
I'm guessing Mortal Kombat is the best selling non-bundled game because it's literally been on sale for $10 a million times.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
It'd be helpful to add a less than sign in front of each grouping. As it stands, it looks like Angry Birds sold in the 500Ks, etc.
The 3DS needs more 3rd party titles that appeal to casual gamers like Angry Birds does. Nintendo will probably make 3-5 titles Players choice down the road to attract casual gamers but I don't think it will be for a while.
RukusProvider
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Speaking of Twisted Metal, has anyone released a larger number of exclusive bombs in a single year as the PS3 did in 2012?
You got to be able to find enjoyment in the little things of life.
Bad sales smile at every Sales-Ager from time to time.
Edit:
Other way.
< = less than
Omnistalgic
Member
Don't compare 360 to the greatness of PS2 -_-
just j/k..
seriously though, numbers only tell so much of the story...Wii U numbers are pretty good considering all factors. 360's dominance in one territory does not mean it will even finish 2nd place to Wii this gen, as worldwide numbers for PS3/360 are extremely close, so I dunno why big numbers for 360 in the holiday season are such a huge deal, PS3 outsells it most of the year and then U.S gives 360 a boost to balance it back out. Very even numbers there, brand is just spread across the globe.
Only thing truly disappointing is Vita. because it's a good piece of hardware. Got a slight bump during the Holiday, but still needs a good 5 million more units to ship to be relevant for 3rd party support to kick up a notch, and there's no telling when that will happen...
All other platforms are doing well...that's the gist I get...
Oh yeah the mega discounts constantly on the game have buoyed it up. I'm curious how Sony is gonna do their new buy vita get games free thing. will they count those games going forward
creamsugar
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By the way,
500k
bird
400k
means 400k<bird<500k instead of bird>500k.
500k
bird
400k
means 400k<bird<500k instead of bird>500k.
BoboBrazil
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Probably because they had the killer $199 bundle in November for Black Friday. Current consoles at their current pricing have pretty much reached their maximum threshold in the US. If PS3 would have been $199 the entire month of December they would have probably sold atleast 50% more units than they did.
RukusProvider
Banned
I know it's tall order but can we get 360 top 10 YTD? or something close? Much appreciated.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
WiiU is bombing hard in the US, and Europe. It´s hard to believe that it sold less than 2006 PS3, but it happened.
Didn´t MS said last month that the 360 outsold competitors 2 to 1 and the PS3 was around 790k? So twice as much does not mean exact number i guess.
When Mpl says that, you know the sales are shit.
Didn´t MS said last month that the 360 outsold competitors 2 to 1 and the PS3 was around 790k? So twice as much does not mean exact number i guess.
When Mpl says that, you know the sales are shit.
Thanks. So 1.25 million in just under a year. Not good.
The fuck are you talking about? No More Heroes (that's how you spell that word) was Suda51's best selling game at that point in time to the point where he actually made a sequel for it. de Blob and Boom Blocks were both successful as well and got sequels made. Goldeneye sold pretty well too.
I like how you list fucking Dead Space Extraction, like an on rails shooter in a series that has a trilogy on the HD systems was expected to sell well at all. Everybody who had a brain saw this coming. Muramasa and Little King Story are the fucking definition of Japanese niche games.
But you know, you conveniently ignore the fact that Resident Evil 4 Wii edition sold over a million units and both Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles and Darkside Chronicles, which were essentially light-gun arcade shooters managed to sell over 500k each. Or that Tatsunoko vs Capcom exceeded Capcom USA's expectations, which is batshit insane. Atlus also found success on the system with the Trauma Center games.
There were some third party bombas on the Wii but to sit there and act like everything bomb and it was Wii owners fault is not only ridiculous but a flat out lie.
TheNatural
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How about just decent third party games period?
I counted 5 third party games above 83% average on an aggregate review site. SSFIV, Zero Escape, Skylanders, Resident Evil Revelations, and Cave Story 3D. Three of those at least charted, Cave Story and Zero Escape is understandable because they're more obscure.
There's just not a lot of really good third party games even on the system. That would be a start. The RPG's from the same exact companies, for example, took a tailspin way down from what were considered premiere games for the DS.
pieatorium
Member
last month was "almost" this month was "more than"
creamsuger has ps3 betwwe 600 and 650k
AdventureRacing
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What factors would that be? I can't see anything that makes that number anything other than terrible.
Well this is an NPD thread so US sales are kinda the focus. You're right that it isn't everything WW and no is saying that so i'm not sure what you're getting at.
Phoenician_Viking
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Thanks. That´s horrible for the PS3.
Am I missing something or are you saying Uncharted didn't sell over 100k?
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I'm just shocked that the Xbox 360 is likely going to end up as the highest seller ever in the United States. The headlines with be that the next Xbox is the successor to the highest selling console ever in America. They are in the same position that Sony was in back in 2006 and Nintendo in 1995. Let's see how they approach this. If they do it right and have a PS1 to PS2 like transition, they are going to run away with this pretty early and we will get one of these "gaps greater than Grand Canyon" quips from Microsoft.
Baconsammy
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I've bought 6 vita games, which I bet don't register on the list since they're all digital. 3DS, none. That's what happens when you have a good store and don't treat me like shit by killing my purchases if I sell my handheld and buy another at a later time.
Monumental
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Well ask yourself which region the vast majority of developers are targetting? Where do the majority of game sales come from? Which region sets the most trends for whats popular?
Now you have your answer for why the 360 dominating in NA/UK is a big deal, and PS3 catching up due to Japan and other non-English speaking countries is not nearly as influential.
pieatorium
Member
Hes comparing non bundled third party
I think going forward software wise diversity is going to be a lot better starting this year. 3DS initial slow start spooked Japan development wise to the point of putting projects on hold, cancelling or even multiplatforming some all the while certain studios were unready to give up PSP development.
Now 3DS has established itself and there is no more uncertainty.
Yeah, the more popular retail games probably sell many thousand over digital on Vita.
Well he put Unit 13, MLB 12 and Modnation Racers: RT, so that's why I was confused.
Can Crusher
Banned
Damn, 360 owning the U.S. And Just Dance and Halo 4 are doing huge numbers, holy crap!
Indeed. Take out the bubble that is Japan and the 360 will be the best selling console in the west this generation.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
The 3DS is down 21% and that with the release of all Mario heavy weight titles, and the 3DSXL. This is not a positive thing you know.
Sohter.Nura
Member
I'm with you. That's with it being on it's second year, too. It should have had a much better second holiday than the first, but it didn't.
Nintendo hasn't been able to "catch lightning in a bottle" with the 3DS yet, like it once did with the DS and the Wii.
I do think that if they play their cards right, next year might be the big holiday season for the 3DS with the new pokemon game.