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[Elektro Demon]

So Nvidia did Quake 2 rtx to showcase their raytracing capabilities on their cards.
So, I guess big navi will also have ray tracing capabilities. What better way to show off that sweet ray tracing then to modify an older game? Unreal from 1998 is the perfect candidate for this.
ID and Epic always had rivalry (quake vs unreal, quake 3 vs unreal tournament etc). Wouldn't it be awesome if AMD did a reimagining/modifying Unreal? That would be so damn cool.
What do you think?

Imagine this but with updated visuals/textures and raytracing. Oh baby!

 

[Manstructiclops]

Nah, finish the Half Life 2 ATi levels.

 

[HE1NZ]

Did Epic ever share UE source code?

 

[93xfan]

So Nvidia did Quake 2 rtx to showcase their raytracing capabilities on their cards.
So, I guess big navi will also have ray tracing capabilities. What better way to show off that sweet ray tracing then to modify an older game? Unreal from 1998 is the perfect candidate for this.
ID and Epic always had rivalry (quake vs unreal, quake 3 vs unreal tournament etc). Wouldn't it be awesome if AMD did a reimagining/modifying Unreal? That would be so damn cool.
What do you think?

Imagine this but with updated visuals/textures and raytracing. Oh baby!

I still think it looks nice, at least from the screen shot. Full path tracing would be awesome if possible

 

[Elektro Demon]

Did Epic ever share UE source code?

I believe they did, but I'm not 100% sure. But it wouldn't be a big deal for AMD to buy rights and shit if it's not free.

 

[Chupanibre]

Unreal still looks good today. I replayed it a few months ago.

 

[Marcinkowski]

They need to do Quake 1 with Ray tracing

 

[Spukc]

unreal tournament or fuck off

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

They need to do Quake 1 with Ray tracing

Why stop there? Wolfenstein 3D ray tracing.

 

[Mister Wolf]

I would like to see how the original Tomb Raider Trilogy would look fully pathtraced.

 

[Bubba77]

oh fuck yes. Unreal was that game for me that really started to feel next genish to me. It was a huge leap and the game was incredible. I would just let that intro play all the time of the arial approach around the buildings and that awesome music going. Would love an unreal remaster.

 

[FireFly]

Epic always seems to prefer working closely with Nvidia, so it seems unlikely.

 

[Black_Stride]

So Nvidia did Quake 2 rtx to showcase their raytracing capabilities on their cards.
So, I guess big navi will also have ray tracing capabilities. What better way to show off that sweet ray tracing then to modify an older game? Unreal from 1998 is the perfect candidate for this.
ID and Epic always had rivalry (quake vs unreal, quake 3 vs unreal tournament etc). Wouldn't it be awesome if AMD did a reimagining/modifying Unreal? That would be so damn cool.
What do you think?

Imagine this but with updated visuals/textures and raytracing. Oh baby!

Unreal?
You mean the one by Epic Games?
The guys who are in bed with Nvidia left, right and center?

Yeah....Unreal RTX is more likely than that.

 

[Chiggs]

This is truly an excellent idea, but I would prefer it be Nvidia that does it, since I own an Nvidia card.

 

[reptilex]

Did AMD even present their RTX opponent solution? Or DLSS? Or Flex? Or VGXI? etc...

AMD did so many efforts 8 years ago like dual-core GPU, Ryzen, Freesync, Vulkan, Intel-AMD package etc...but it's like they've abandoned the competition...

 

[llien]

Epic always seems to prefer working closely with Nvidia, so it seems unlikely.

'xcept their engine is cross platform, and guess who's GPUs are in major consoles.

The guys who are in bed with Nvidia left, right and center?

Please remind me, which NV card was involved:

Epic Games calls PS5 a "masterpiece of systems design"

Epic Games' VP of engineering Nick Penwarden has called the PS5 a "masterpiece of systems design", after working with the console's dev kit to help create last month's jaw-dropping Unreal Engine 5 tech demo. "The PlayStation 5 is a masterpiece of systems design," says Penwarden. "Not only is it...

www.neogaf.com

 

[Soltype]

AMD needs to release a competitive high end card, tired of blindly giving Nvidia my money

 

[Black_Stride]

'xcept their engine is cross platform, and guess who's GPUs are in major consoles.


Please remind me, which NV card was involved:

Epic Games calls PS5 a "masterpiece of systems design"

Epic Games' VP of engineering Nick Penwarden has called the PS5 a "masterpiece of systems design", after working with the console's dev kit to help create last month's jaw-dropping Unreal Engine 5 tech demo. "The PlayStation 5 is a masterpiece of systems design," says Penwarden. "Not only is it...

www.neogaf.com

When they need to demo their Raytracing capability, be sure to call me when they use an AMD chip.

 

[llien]

When they need to demo their Raytracing capability, be sure to call me when they use an AMD chip.

That's a much MUCH softer statement than the original one, though.
Epic just chose to demo their next engine on... AMD powered console.
Last, but not least, it looked great, didn't use RT and people had to ask, if it did or not. What does the latter tell us about RT? Does anyone really have to use it for game to look great?

a competitive high end card,

What budget is that?

 

[pawel86ck]

Next month Nvidia will launch Ampere GPUs with much better RT performance, and RDNA2 GPUs are also around the corner, so more and more people will be able to run games with RT effects. I think it's only a question of time when moders will start implementing RT in such classic games like unreal 1 or Half Life 1.

BTW. Unreal 1 had very sharp reflections already even without RT, but reflections on water surface would be nice (especially since RT reflections arnt nearly as demanding as RT GI or shadows, and even GPUs without HW RT can run RT reflections with good results).

 

[FireFly]

'xcept their engine is cross platform, and guess who's GPUs are in major consoles.

Right, but would a ray traced version of the original Unreal be relevant in the console space? Obviously UE4/5 will support DXR 1.1, but I would be surprised if they worked with AMD to create a special version of the original Unreal engine for a marketing opportunity.

 

[Kuranghi]

I would like to see how the original Tomb Raider Trilogy would look fully pathtraced.

The quadbike from III but its path-traced AND has the UE5 new mesh technology so its like 100 million polygons

 

[metareferential]

Quake RTX is mind-blowing.

Can't wait for some other ray-tracing remake.

And before the usual idiots come out screaming: no, it's not just "an rtx patch".

 

[Soltype]

What budget is that?

Not budget, but performance .Nvidia is unchecked in the enthusiast tier of cards.If you have big bucks to spend you have to buy Nvidia.

 

[00_Zer0]

Question, is it known if any RTX enabled games will work on all the future AMD RDNA 2 cards automatically, or is it a propiatery ray tracing that Nvidia uses?

If certain kind of ray tracing is exclusive to one card or the other I see people getting pissed off having to do with which games will work with which cards.

 

[Black_Stride]

Question, is it known if any RTX enabled games will work on all the future AMD RDNA 2 cards automatically, or is it a propiatery ray tracing that Nvidia uses?

If certain kind of ray tracing is exclusive to one card or the other I see people getting pissed off having to do with which games will work with which cards.

Pretty much every game currently with raytracing is using DXR, so if your GPU supports DXR then yes it will just work regardless of who the manufacturer is.


Think of it like when a new version of DirectX comes out games will have the DirectX10 or whatever features blanked out and if one manufacturer release a GPU that supports DirectX X then it will seem like only "manufacturers" GPUs work then another manufacturer releases their DirectX GPU and it just works.

Nvidia was just first to market with a DXR capable GPU so people are assuming all raytracing is RTX Raytracing.....its not.

 

[Elektro Demon]

Right, but would a ray traced version of the original Unreal be relevant in the console space? Obviously UE4/5 will support DXR 1.1, but I would be surprised if they worked with AMD to create a special version of the original Unreal engine for a marketing opportunity.

This is a PC game, first and foremost.

 

[00_Zer0]

Pretty much every game currently with raytracing is using DXR, so if your GPU supports DXR then yes it will just work regardless of who the manufacturer is.


Think of it like when a new version of DirectX comes out games will have the DirectX10 or whatever features blanked out and if one manufacturer release a GPU that supports DirectX X then it will seem like only "manufacturers" GPUs work then another manufacturer releases their DirectX GPU and it just works.

Nvidia was just first to market with a DXR capable GPU so people are assuming all raytracing is RTX Raytracing.....its not.

Thanks for the information. That means if I go with RDNA2 later in the year instead of Ampere all the games released thus far and even under the RTX brand will work, nice! Glad to hear that when games are labeled as RTX games that's only market speak and will work with any game with DXR by Microsoft.

 

[Black_Stride]

Thanks for the information. That means if I go with RDNA2 later in the year instead of Ampere all the games released thus far and even under the RTX brand will work, nice! Glad to hear that when games are labeled as RTX games that's only market speak and will work with any game with DXR by Microsoft.

Pretty much.
In game Ive only seen Metro Exodus make specific mention of RTX, but they heavily favor Nvidia tech since way back when so no real surprise there....it even uses Hairworks.
In game its usually just Raytracing or DXR, and I guess soon VulkanRT.
The RTX labeling is purely marketing from Nvidia, developers dont say any of that stuff in the actual games because they know their game is hardware agnostic. It will be curious what Metro Exodus does when AMD and Intel DXR capable GPUs hit the market, they will likely make an update to change the wording.

^RTX mentioned in Metro Exodus.

^In Control, it just says Ray Tracing.

^In Battlefield they just use DXR.

 

[FireFly]

This is a PC game, first and foremost.

Exactly my point. Check out the post I was replying to.

 

[Kokoloko85]

I want a new campaign Quake or unreal game again.

But yeah Ill take Quake 2 RT lol

 

[Hudo]

Man, Epic should do Unreal 3... fuck this multiplayer GaaS bullshit.

 

[rofif]

I want unreal vr and I want unreal rt

 

[llien]

Right, but would a ray traced version of the original Unreal be relevant in the console space...

But who cares, if looking at the demo itself, we cannot decide, if it is using RT API or not?

 

[llien]

Not budget, but performance .Nvidia is unchecked in the enthusiast tier of cards.If you have big bucks to spend you have to buy Nvidia.

So did you by RTX Titan? And if not, it seems to me, price does matter.

 

[AquaticSquirrel]

Not budget, but performance .Nvidia is unchecked in the enthusiast tier of cards.If you have big bucks to spend you have to buy Nvidia.

*Goes out and buys mid range Nvidia card that AMD competes well with*

 

[Soltype]

So did you by RTX Titan? And if not, it seems to me, price does matter.

*Goes out and buys mid range Nvidia card that AMD competes well with*

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I have a 1080 TI right now if I wanted to upgrade I have no other realistic path outside of Nvidia. Like I said, in the enthusiast tier AMD is non existent.I'm really hoping AMD has something big this year, I'm tired of having to buy Nvidia cards because a lack of options.

 

[Tesseract]

search for open tournament, it's prolly the closest we'll get unless the stack is released, exported, converted, so forth

they might release the 2017 code with ue5, we'll see

your feel is known, elektro

 

[bad guy]

Pong raytracing.

 

[llien]

in the enthusiast tier

There is no abstract all encompassing "enthusiast tier" and that pat Raja times AMD rolled out only 250mm2 chip is a well known fact.
The idea, that 505mm2 AMD chip won't be able to compete with whatever NV rolles out priced at 1080Ti levels is crazy.

 

[N0S]