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Doctor Who |OT| Pre-Series 8 Discussion - He's A-Coming

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The official Doctor Who Facebook page used a picture of my wife from Comic-Con last week in one of their posts today. Pretty awesome, I'm proud of her. Even if like 80% of the comments are "bigger on the inside" jokes.
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The best tardis dress Ive seen. Love the interior of the tardis, the neckclace key and the light staff (instead of the usual silly hat).
Congrats to you and your wife!
 
I'm 100% convinced that Moffat will never bring back the Master. He's a character archetype that he's shown absolutely no interest in over the course of his career.
 
I can't help you with the US cinemas, but according to my local cinema the episode will also include "15 minutes of exclusive content not available through TV: 5 minutes of specially scripted content to play before the feature and 10 minutes of behind the scenes post the main feature." That might account for the longer running time: 75min episode + 15min extra + 10min ads?

Oh heck yes!
I totally didn't even think of looking to see if it was showing at the Luna this year.
I watched the 50th at the Luna and it was a magical experience to be sure.
I remember before the show they were showing an ad for a symphony of the Doctor Who soundtrack and it would be live and orchestrated and amazing. And it looked really good and everyone was getting really into it.
And then it said it was only available in Melbourne and Sydney.
Everyone booed. It was great.
Now I get to watch the opening of Season 8 with the hubhub of people! It'll be amazing. The atmosphere is always great.

Time to pull out my Doctor costume again.
 

V_Arnold

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I'm 100% convinced that Moffat will never bring back the Master. He's a character archetype that he's shown absolutely no interest in over the course of his career.

Hm.
Two things to consider.
a. The Master was a big enemy for RTD, which obviously means he was hands-off for other writers during that era. (correct me if I am wrong on this one).
b. The Master also did not suit to be coming back immediately after he just sacrificed himself. It did not make sense plot-wise, it did not make sense story-wise. Besides, Moffat pitted the 11th against many characters that are borderline like the master, without insanity ofc. As in: showing a twisted mirror to him.

Now, plot-wise, it is obvious that the Master will be able to return if timelords are to return. He is with them. Potentially dying, but there. And this is a new doctor.
 
I don't know how many more hands and fingers sticking out at me I can take.

I'm on the verge of making a harshly worded thread.
 

Slowdive

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Some quotes:

"It’s very interesting what’s happened to Jenna. Everyone knows Capaldi’s going to be great but I think the shocker is just how great he makes Jenna. From a Doctor she could sort of control, because he had a crush on her, she’s landed with a Doctor who barely registers that she’s a girl. They’re great friends and all that but she has to be his human interface with everybody else. She’s much funnier, more exasperated."

"In the same way we have Victorian Clara leading a double life, this Clara has a life of home, school, her domestic life, her domestic bliss, her flat in Shoreditch, and then the Doctor will bring the TARDIS and land in the bedroom or land in the stationary cupboard at school, and then she’ll go off on her adventures. But she’s very strict about him returning her at exactly the right time so she doesn’t miss anything on Earth. So in a way she is kind of having her cake and eating it, but what she really doesn’t want is the double life to collide in any way. It has to be completely separate, and that is the control freak Clara coming through."
 
That Clara quote sounds damn cool actually. You can see how it could all start to dramatically fall apart in a way it never has done for a companion before.

As for the Master coming back I can see him being some kind of background force that's at work for the most of this season but we never actually see. I think if Moffat really does want to bring him (her?) back he'll make it a real slow build. Like, even longer than the S3 build.
 

Boem

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Regarding the Master: It really wouldn't surprise me if he's going to be the last big villain Moffat brings back. He likes leaving his mark on the show, and he touched upon most of the other major landmarks in the Who-world in the last couple of years. I assume (well, hope) his Master will be a bit of a step back towards the classic Master, as the entire new series seems to be doing the same, with an older Doctor who isn't as close to his companion as Smith and Tennant were and slightly slower-paced episodes with longer dramatic scenes.

All that sounds great to me, because the show could get a bit too frantic for me at times. Sometimes it worked, but sometimes it just resulted in the characters spouting one-liners at one another while a lot of plot was happening at the same time. He's good at writing those lines, but sometimes it just got too much. Sometimes it felt like I was listening to the writing of a very smart writer, rather than actual characters having a conversation (and that's probably why some people prefer RTD over Moffat, I think). I hope he manages to strike a balance in the next series, because while I love his crazy, convoluted light-scifi plots I still feel like something's missing a lot of the time.

Man, I guess I'm getting hyped. I'm writing long posts about nothing again while I should be working. Anyway, Moffat's great, Capaldi's great, next series needs more K9. I'll shut up now.
 
Regarding the Master: It really wouldn't surprise me if he's going to be the last big villain Moffat brings back. He likes leaving his mark on the show, and he touched upon most of the other major landmarks in the Who-world in the last couple of years. I assume (well, hope) his Master will be a bit of a step back towards the classic Master, as the entire new series seems to be doing the same, with an older Doctor who isn't as close to his companion as Smith and Tennant were and slightly slower-paced episodes with longer dramatic scenes.

I don't think that if the Master comes back, he would be more similar to a version from the old series. I remember that Moffat has stated that he never found the Master interesting in the old series, and felt that Davies' version was the only one that was any good.
 
I don't think that if the Master comes back, he would be more similar to a version from the old series. I remember that Moffat has stated that he never found the Master interesting in the old series, and felt that Davies' version was the only one that was any good.

I agree. Derek Jacobi was the best Master, bar none.
 

Boem

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I don't think that if the Master comes back, he would be more similar to a version from the old series. I remember that Moffat has stated that he never found the Master interesting in the old series, and felt that Davies' version was the only one that was any good.

I agree. Derek Jacobi was the best Master, bar none.

Blasphemy! You guys are insane. There is only one true Master:

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I don't really cares what Moffat says - he also mentioned that he'd never bring the Timelords and Gallifrey back because they ruined the show according to him, and now he made finding Gallifrey the Doctor's main mission. He also called the Ice Warriors boring and too outdated to bring back, and it just took him three seasons as a showrunner to bring them back (although, granted, he didn't actually write that episode himself).

More importantly, Roger Delgado is one of the finest actors to have a recurring role on Doctor Who (in a cheesy, maniacal B-villain kind of way. But he did it gloriously). I'd put him right alongside all the classic Doctors in the list of actors that defined the show during those years.

I like John Simm as an actor, but he never worked as the Master for me. He's a good villain, but he's just not recognizable as the same character from the classic era (although he's nowhere near as bad as the 1996 tv movie Master). Derek Jacobi was a lot more interesting to me as the Master, bit of a bummer that he had to go so soon.

A Delgado-like Master wouldn't have worked against Tennant or Smith though. He really needs an older, slightly calmer Doctor. Which is why, for the first time in years, I'm kind of hoping that the Master actually is going to return.
 
Blasphemy! You guys are insane. There is only one true Master:

roger-delgado-1.jpg

I love Delgado. He's the definitive Master.

Jacobi is still the GOAT.

A Delgado-like Master wouldn't have worked against Tennant or Smith though. He really needs an older, slightly calmer Doctor. Which is why, for the first time in years, I'm kind of hoping that the Master actually is going to return.

See, this I disagree with. Seeing Smith in particular, simmering against a calm, cool Master would've been something marvelous to watch.
 
I'm still waiting for the Charles Dance rumor to come true, but if Moffat brings back the Master I know there's got to be some swerve. Probably a female Master.
 
I love that the TARDIS actually has stuff on the 'second floor' now. An old school blackboard seems like such an obvious choice for the Doctor to have.

Though I do wonder what stuff is actually written on there though. Anyone with any degree of maths/physics knowledge know? It's either complete gibberish or some super specific nerd fact.
 
"Hey, John Simm, how would you like to come back for a day's worth of filming and a lifetime of never being pestered by Doctor Who fans ever again? There's also a sack of money involved."

No way he wouldn't say yes.
 

jwk94

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"Hey, John Simm, how would you like to come back for a day's worth of filming and a lifetime of never being pestered by Doctor Who fans ever again? There's also a sack of money involved."

No way he wouldn't say yes.

i wouldn't be surprised if Simm regenerated off screen.
 
As he blows up yet another Cyber Legion, the Doctor kicks the blackboard out the TARDIS door as he de-materialises out of there. A doomed Cyberman approaches the blackboard, and flips it over:

"FUCKITY-BYE"
 

Kurdel

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Wow, the premiere will show even in Quebec city! I never get to see any theatre event stuff for anything!

Devastating levels of hype have been generated
 
Now that we know the Doctor has a chalkboard seemingly as a recurring prop, I really want a scene where the Doctor is drawing diagrams and equations on it to explain some rubbish and none of the companions get it and he just gets more and more frustrated and starts going into Tucker mode (but kid friendly) until he just shoves the blackboard off screen.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Turns out they are showing the premiere in a theater here in town! I'll be out of state all weekend so I thought I'd have to miss it! Woot! Going on Monday night.

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