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Kotaku: Unfortunately, Quantum Break Looks a Bit Rubbish
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There are not a lot of good third person shooters coming out at the moment. This one looks like one that will be good from a studio that has made several good third person shooters.
Remedy have a third person shooting pedigree and it will be at least competent based on their previous few third person shooters. So yay if you like TPS. Un-yay if you want not before seen things.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Re-posting from other thread ;D
Few days ago
Kotaku UK: Remedy's Quantum Break Footage Looks Excellent
Today
Kotaku: Unfortunately, Quantum Break Looks a Bit Rubbish
Same guy posted those.
So is it good or is it bad?
It's almost as if
after being given more insight into the game
he changed his mind???
Shock horror!
BibiMaghoo
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Just reads to me like he expected mechanics to be more original than they actually turned out to be, and that the TV sections are damaging to the gameplay in the same way an overly long cutscene could be if full of cliches.
That doesn't stop the game from being good, just that they expected something fresher than what was shown.
That doesn't stop the game from being good, just that they expected something fresher than what was shown.
Flip flopping and posting "interesting" titles is what it's all about, it's about creating divisive opinions and generating traffic and buzz, and they're doing it, in spades.
Don't get me wrong, I actually think Kotaku is one of the best gaming websites about, but you've got the remember the driving force behind all of these features.
Being impressed about something at a conference drives traffic, saying it looks crap after the fact drives traffic.
traffic traffic traffic
Basically.
Diprosalic
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it always looked a bit rubbish.
AmaterasuOni
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It looks like it's the same demo what was shown in the Finnish Xbone launch event. And I got similar feelings from it. It's nothing but a cool looking game. Most of it happened in a tight corridor, the powers were nothing new and well, it looked like a mediocre action game. Graphics were awesome for a PC game, I doubt it's going to look like that on Xbone.
That forced programme after each episode sounds ridiculous.
That forced programme after each episode sounds ridiculous.
SomedayTheFire
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I mean, their last TPS has pretty bad TPS mechanics, so it's not a stretch to worry about the basic mechanics of this.
ViewtifulJC
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That Halo 5 article did that too. "Oh, he's shooting aliens with weapons big deal...oh wow now he's assassinating somebody with a knife oh boy seen that before. I didn't see any alien weapons, so I'm gonna assume they took them out even though they've been in plenty of trailers already. Where are the sci-fi alien worlds even though this is like the second level and the first E3 demo was on a big purple Covenant palace. I'll just note down a few easy signifies without thinking about it and call it a day. CoD this, Titanfall that, type type type annnnnnnnd...submit. Now what's for lunch I wonder..."
Doesnt change the fact opinions can change. At the end of the day, it is his opinion.
Anyways, this game is giving me pre-release The Order vibes. It will be interesting to see the impact of the TV series too.
Pseudo judo
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I read the OP and don't need to give Kotaku clicks to read more. Essentially the time mechanics don't fell as original as bullet time was 14 years ago. The writer is confused why the video game has time bubbles that makes enemies explode and wants a quantum physicist to explain how such a mechanic could exist and he feels there's a disconnect between the game and the live action segments.
The game might not be the best game ever made and whenever you're trying something new there are going to be issues but calling it "rubbish" without any hands on time? This site is getting all the criticism it deserves.
AnthonypUK
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Wait the TV sections are In the game? I assumed they'd be a companion to the game if you want more depth watch the TV show and play the game, if not you can be fine with just the game.
It's gonna be awesome or a complete cluster fuck.
It's gonna be awesome or a complete cluster fuck.
Re-posting from other thread ;D
Few days ago
Kotaku UK: Remedy's Quantum Break Footage Looks Excellent
Today
Kotaku: Unfortunately, Quantum Break Looks a Bit Rubbish
Same guy posted those. Opinions change at the drop of a hat.
So is it good or is it bad?
Videogame journalism.
Easier to blindly hive mind bash Kotakuuuuuuu.....
Gotta stay cool.
Haven't been following up this game much because I don't have an Xbox one yet, but the first gameplay I saw was kinda meh.
Having Dead Island vibe of AWESOME trailer / concept, ok execution at best.
Final Verdict
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Exactly!
I always like to use uncharted as an example... The mechanics aren't really anything new, and the story might as well be an Indiana Jones rip off, but the story and action is simply done to such a high level, and keeps you immersed, and invested...And I is one of my favorite games.
this
i said it a while back, but i'm almost certain that remedy looked at the reception to the order very closely. a pretty third person shooter doesn't quite cut it anymore.
Sure. But I think that comes down to feel and can only be reasonably estimated by watching a presentation.
Just being down on a game because it lacks innovation is silly.
I think one of the best third person shooters is Infamous 2 and that isn't really innovative. In that game you also have the stables of the genre: You have grenades but now they are electricity grenades, you have rockets but now they are electricity rockets.
Those are basic third person mechanics and the reason they are ubiquitous is because they work.
Lys Skygge
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Kotaku wrote articles about how bland Destiny and The Order were behind closed doors and despite everyone attacking Kotaku for their opinion both games ended up being quite underwhelming.
Which is a shame. Not to say The Order was great (though I did enjoy it) but I don't need multiplayer or RPG features in my shooters. I just want a good experience.
I've really not seen that variety first hand as of yet, I watched the two showings and didn't see any real signs of "Alan Wake" style in there, I hope I'm wrong, I really do.
Messofanego
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Has anyone actually got hands-on impressions?
Lucky Seven
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I don't know. I think that sounded interesting. But, I really can't understand some internet journalists...
Cyber Caesar
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This is why I hate journalism, site traffic whoring.
Destiny made bank, and its problems weren't in gameplay...
Scientist Supreme!
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You can't understand opinions?
Savinowned
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I'm not annoyed that he found the trailer exciting, but the demo itself not as exciting... I just wish he would take more time between articles. I feel like I often read one of the two from Kotaku: "This looks pretty slick", or "I'm not so sure about this game now" to feed clicks since Kotaku often sticks to the edgy and normal-sounding headline
Kagoshima_Luke
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I kinda agree with him. I'm actually surprised at the hype this game is generated after we've seen the gameplay. What about this is new?
Disclaimer: I don't watch TV, so if that's the selling point, that explains why I'm cold to that idea.
Disclaimer: I don't watch TV, so if that's the selling point, that explains why I'm cold to that idea.
Is the QB TV series still planned, even with the shuttering of the XBOX Entertainment studio? If not, perhaps part of the 20-minute villain interlude bits is Remedy's way of recovering content they made/planned for the TV show.
Re-reading, it sounds like these 20-minute episodes are exactly that. I'm not extremely well-versed with Quantum Break's development, but was it ever planned for these to be separate from the game, as a broadcast TV series? (Without the binary choice branching, of course.) Wedging them into the game might not be the greatest idea, but perhaps they're an integral part of the game's story that it wouldn't work without.
Re-reading, it sounds like these 20-minute episodes are exactly that. I'm not extremely well-versed with Quantum Break's development, but was it ever planned for these to be separate from the game, as a broadcast TV series? (Without the binary choice branching, of course.) Wedging them into the game might not be the greatest idea, but perhaps they're an integral part of the game's story that it wouldn't work without.
Re-posting from other thread ;D
Few days ago
Kotaku UK: Remedy's Quantum Break Footage Looks Excellent
Today
Kotaku: Unfortunately, Quantum Break Looks a Bit Rubbish
Same guy posted those.
So is it good or is it bad?
I will tell you wich is it: clickbait and shit "journalism".
Magic Mushroom
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What was so bad about Alan Wake's mechanics? It was a bit samey, but not bad I thought, American Nightmare in particular. Feedback was nice, guns and other weapons felt good, dodge and stamina were welcome mechanics, it was all pretty competent to me. No, it wasn't Vanquish, but it was hardly a tradegy either.
And they also made two Max Payne games with great gunplay.
I'm not sold on the game yet either, nothing I saw came close to the Uncharted 4 PSX demo when it comes to a dynamic combat sandbox, but I wouldn't dare to write it off based on that (extended) demo.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
If the live action stuff is close to 20 minute chunks, theyre fucking insane.
Re-posting from other thread ;D
Few days ago
Kotaku UK: Remedy's Quantum Break Footage Looks Excellent
Today
Kotaku: Unfortunately, Quantum Break Looks a Bit Rubbish
Same guy posted those.
So is it good or is it bad?
Liking the game didn't get them enough clicks it see
There's nothing Rubbish about quantum break... Though, playing in God Mode (like they did at gamescom) makes the combat look repetitive.
To those asking why people think this article is trash:
The article is basically one giant bitchfest that can be summarized as "it plays like a shooter and time manipulation isn't new, so it sucks" which is garbage. The only noteworthy complaint was the fact that the TV series didn't feel like they mesh well with the game, and even that is basically because "you have to put your controller down" like cutscenes haven't existed forever now.
It seems overly dramatic and sensational and there is little substance to it.
That's why it's trash.
The article is basically one giant bitchfest that can be summarized as "it plays like a shooter and time manipulation isn't new, so it sucks" which is garbage. The only noteworthy complaint was the fact that the TV series didn't feel like they mesh well with the game, and even that is basically because "you have to put your controller down" like cutscenes haven't existed forever now.
It seems overly dramatic and sensational and there is little substance to it.
That's why it's trash.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Some folk digging hard for that The Order comparison.
BibiMaghoo
Member
No it wouldn't. They have some well written, detailed, journalistic articles. They just don't have them all the time. There is no good site that doesn't post junk as well.
RichiRamjag
Member
I'm not dogging anyone's opinion and if folks disagree with me, then that's fine, but kotaku is right in this case. Quantum break is a generic looking shooter imo and everything I've seen of the special abilities don't help it. I get that folks are hyped, but it really confuses me. It just doesn't look good at all (to me).
It isn't amazing, but it certainly isn't the worst. You've been testy toward them all day tbh (probably because the ripped on the halo campaign). Polygon would take the cake for worst. IGN certainly isn't spewing out gold.
It isn't amazing, but it certainly isn't the worst. You've been testy toward them all day tbh (probably because the ripped on the halo campaign). Polygon would take the cake for worst. IGN certainly isn't spewing out gold.
SomedayTheFire
Member
I agree in a way, but it is possible for a game to have good mechanics and be unspectacular. I mean a good example I can think is the recent backlash to the newest Avengers film, it's a film where everything is good, everything fits together. Nothing is horribly bad and yet it's an utterly forgettable film, that's the vibe I got with this game when announced.
I mean, I'm all for it being a smashing success and a 10/10 game, the more the better but I'd like Remedy to show more of that potential if it's there. I also hope the mechanics are better than they were in Alan Wake, which seemed like a game caught at a crossroads between it's horror beginnings and the thriller shooter it became.
There are only 4 of them that you will see.
the problem with the order was that it was unremarkable and flabby, and a little bit too in love with its lore. it didn't really give the player much of anything new, it just sort of went through the motions that we saw in numerous shooters from last gen just with better graphics.
quantum break could suffer the same fate even with the time manipulation stuff. it's definitely looking like it could end up its own arse with the lore at least.
The first link you posted is LITERALLY four sentences based on a hands off demo showing the best bits of the game, and largely commenting on how the game "looks" from a cursory observation.
The second are the authors impressions of a seemingly more in depth closed door (i.e: "We have more latitude for jank. . .") presentation, of which he was not impressed.
It's like saying a person can say they are hyped from a movie trailer and then aren't allowed to say how disappointing the screening was.
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