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Tekken 7: Fated Retribution, Akuma/Gouki announced as playable character
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I doubt it goes that far. He owes her a favor, and he's bound by honor to uphold it if she asks.
Jin isn't a bad guy though. <_<
Good point.
Imru al-Qays
Banned
I mean, it's not like western fighting games have stories that make any more sense.
Emperor Bohe
Member
I dunno, didn't he start a world war in Tekken 6? doesn't matter if it was for the greater good or not, he caused a shitload of deaths for his own personal reasons. he probably had the worst run as CEO of the Zaibatsu out of everyone.
Kazuya was bad too when he was the CEO in Tekken 2, paying people for assassinations/kidnappings and experimenting on animals, but at least he didn't cause a damn war.
Heihachi always gets flack for being portrayed as the series' villain, but when he's the CEO of the Zaibatsu he just builds schools/playgrounds and shit. He has the Tekken force doing his (usually bad) biddings, but Heihachi probably has the best PR team from all of the Mishimas. He's an asshole, but he's probably the least offensive to the world's general public compared to Jin & Kazuya haha.
shout outs to trying to look at the Tekken story with a real world perspective lmao
Jin is the worst of all of them lol
Well the war itself was specifically for that reason. That was basically all he even did during his rule of the Zaibatsu, that's why he took on the job supposedly.
That was the master plan he was forming since Jinpachi was destroyed. He was going to take on all the hatred of the world so that he could essentially save it and take out Azazel, Heihachi and Kazuya and himself all at once.
I guess to Harada's mind, that's the ultimate sacrifice for the tragic hero. But i won't deny he did some effed up shit for those reasons.
At most you could say he was a one time villain, but since he survived and is no longer apart of the Zaibatsu, with his larger plan failed(atleast in part cause the devil gene still lives), he's back to anti hero/hero who is basically hated by everyone cause of what he did. He's no longer somebody who intentionally kills kittens though with a diabolical laugh.
I'm assuming he'll meet up with Xiao in this game and then that sets off a whole other thing...because in the movie, he was waiting for her to defeat him cause of their bond. Of course i don't know how much Blood Vengance has to do with the events.
Tekken 3 was one of the games instrumental towards me becoming a gamer but quit the franchise with T5 being the last one. It's cool that Akuma is a guest character but man does the franchise look tired. To muster up excitement despite my 10 year absence is still hard for me.
SFV excites me like no fighter has last gen and that includes SF4. SF visually looks different with each iteration and SFV really feels new in a way SF4 never did. I feel T7 has the same problem, it still looks and plays all too familiar. And that Mishima lore, oh gawd I'm groaning just thinking about their power struggle yet again.
SFV excites me like no fighter has last gen and that includes SF4. SF visually looks different with each iteration and SFV really feels new in a way SF4 never did. I feel T7 has the same problem, it still looks and plays all too familiar. And that Mishima lore, oh gawd I'm groaning just thinking about their power struggle yet again.
Harada is still a Jin fanboy....but i'm glad that one time Lars thing went into the backround.
TheRealTalker
Banned
Harada's favorite character is Heihachi.
Heihachi has good pr but i think kazuya is the least offensive. You know what kazuya did, made rodger jr brought joy to the world.
But when folks see jin, they see some down on his luck young man. When folks see heihachi they see this weird charming oldman. When they see kazuya they see a boss battle. And they should have like the least information on kazuya. Out of all the mishima's, he is easily the most mysterious. Yet folks try and go at him.
And understand why, kazuya looks evil as fuck in his daily life. Kazuya walks into the store for some food, the folks in the store think they walked into a roaming boss raid boss and are now trying to equip their gear.
He will never win. Even if he kills heihachi, folks will just be like
" you heartless evil coward you killed this nice old man he built scholls for the children"
But when folks see jin, they see some down on his luck young man. When folks see heihachi they see this weird charming oldman. When they see kazuya they see a boss battle. And they should have like the least information on kazuya. Out of all the mishima's, he is easily the most mysterious. Yet folks try and go at him.
And understand why, kazuya looks evil as fuck in his daily life. Kazuya walks into the store for some food, the folks in the store think they walked into a roaming boss raid boss and are now trying to equip their gear.
He will never win. Even if he kills heihachi, folks will just be like
" you heartless evil coward you killed this nice old man he built scholls for the children"
When i look at Heihachi i see an old evil guy who is obsessed with himself to the point of complete ridiculousness.
I sure hope Harada doesn't do something dumb like try and explain away Heihachi's motives throughout the entire series. Just keep him a tried and true bad guy, then end this old man.
I,m with you, i hope the end of t7 is kaz killing heihachi, and thats it. Its not even spectacular.
I like you.
Heihachi4life
Terareflection
Member
I don't think Jin deserves a lot of the hate he gets. He goes through crazy character development before (even gets reflected in his movelist!) and after Tekken 4, but it all gets thrown away in the Tekken 5/6 era. He's horribly mishandled, and I guess that came with being Tekken's posterboy.
Lars is shit though. No doubt.
Lars is shit though. No doubt.
I mained Jin on one point... and then I ditched him for the Kings... What a great decision it was...
Glycemic Beg
Banned
Fuck. Yes.
The Lone Dragon
Member
Both games had initial projected sales of 2 million, both failed to reach that. It's not like SFxT was shooting for 5 million, while TTT2 was only shooting for 500k. They were both shooting for the same sales, they both fell a bit short.
It would be rather strange to be shooting for the same sales target while having vastly different budgets.
It would be very hard to argue that SFxT failed and TTT2 succeeded...even though both games had the same sales projection and similar sales overall.
Lee!? Ugh...that guy...Violet is better than him by far
Cyber Caesar
Member
Imru al-Qays;188991905 said:
You only have a sample size of 1. Mortal Kombat is on the path to greatness.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
Member
I haven't played as much Tekken as I'd want to (have TTT2 on Wii U, but its so intimidating), but I like Lars :C
Cyber Caesar
Member
Lee has neat moves tho. Lars is trash.
Even assuming so, TTT2 had a successful arcade version which made money - an alternate revenue stream. SFXTK did not.
Again, comparing success of the two titles is not as equivocal as you're trying to make it be.
Lars is trash???!
Wow. Lee? Lmaooo.
Heihachi is a has been. Lee is ass, and not even a real Mishima. Lars is the king of swag. Jin is a badass seeing as how he can take out the whole Mishima bloodline by himself.
Thanks k bye.
Thank you. Lars moveset is dope as fuck.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Yep
eyeball_kid
Member
I love Lee. His moves are some of the slickest in Tekken, and you really have to take the time to learn him, you can't just button mash your way to victory. His personality is great also; he mostly got over the Mishima drama and is all about handling his business now.
I agree on Lars though; he always seemed to me as being groomed to take over Jin's place as the dark hero prettyboy. Boring.
The Lone Dragon
Member
Not really talking about the arcade version, but...
Likewise, we don't have DLC sales, which were (obviously) a larger part of SFxT's revenue plans compared to TTT2.
In spite of the whining, DLC costumes, characters, and even gems were a very common sight online.
Also, we don't know what kind of deal Capcom had with Sony, but they clearly had some sort of financial support considering all the Sony exclusive characters and the Vita promotion. (SFxT was probably the precursor to SF5's current Sony relationship)
Bottom line, both games did not do as well as their developers wanted on console, both sold similarly, yet both are not viewed similarly by the FGC...even in the west, where "arcade performance" means jack spit.
RelentlessRolento
Member
How cannon is he though is my real question? I feel like he's a guest character doing stuff in the story but won't actually have any influence over anything.
The graphical upgrade looks great as well. Don't know how but it looks way betterz
The graphical upgrade looks great as well. Don't know how but it looks way betterz
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
So now Akuma is being introduced and STILL NO WORD on my girl Nina Williams being part of the roster??? She's the poster girl of Tekken I'm losing my patience with this
So now Akuma is being introduced and STILL NO WORD on my girl Nina Williams being part of the roster??? She's the poster girl of Tekken I'm losing my patience with this
She's old... so is Anna... they can go back to their retirement homes
In all seriousness though, Nina and Anna need a rework for them to fit in the game. The weak SS will make their pressure game too OP if they get directly ported from Tag 2.
But at least they are workable... Lei and Eddy/Christie? Based on how T7 oki works and their stances, they are gone...
This whole discussion started because we're discussing relevance and success of Tekken as a franchise.
It is clearly successful in Asia thanks to arcades.
It is clearly still relevant in the Europe and North America because you have close to 2 million people buying the game - and it only fell below sales expectations by a very short margin. Not to mention that unlike SFXTK, TTT2 never got a price drop for several months.
Besides that, Tekken remains the highest selling fighting game franchise of all time - not including arcade profits.
Everyone knows console sales have declined for Tekken but calling it irrelevant when 2 million people have bought the game and have played it is nothing short of plain wrong.
Especially when as I mentioned TTT2 is a spin off game releasing at the end of a console generation with a lot of competition.
So now Akuma is being introduced and STILL NO WORD on my girl Nina Williams being part of the roster??? She's the poster girl of Tekken I'm losing my patience with this
lol I wouldn't worry about her. There are still alot of character annoucements to come. And she has been in literally every Tekken game, they even made a spin off game about her: Death By Degrees. I highly doubt that they will suddenly not include her. Same thing with Lei Wulong, he has also been in every Tekken since he was introduced in T2. I'll be shocked if those two characters are not in.
Well the game wasn't finished. I don't understand why people keep saying this kind of thing. The console release is when they consider the actual official product 'launched'. Arcade versions before that are unofficially for testing and getting feedback for balancing and stuff.
Especially with this generation with the switch to a new engine and new hardware, did people really think that was the best Tekken Team could do?
ZeroTheShadow
Member
You can hella button mash with Lee. I would know.
Again, based on how T7 mechanics work right now, Lei might not be in, or if he even go in, at least his grounded stances will be removed. The weak SS and the new oki system will make the grounded stances OP.
Gray-Okami
Member
The last 10 second of the trailer...
Am I expecting devil Kazuya vs Oni
Believe
Am I expecting devil Kazuya vs Oni
Believe
Lars definitely seems like the type to post this kind of 'swag is for boys class is for men' beta shit
FeenixRising
Banned
So now Akuma is being introduced and STILL NO WORD on my girl Nina Williams being part of the roster??? She's the poster girl of Tekken I'm losing my patience with this
They have to have the Tekken Four in there (Nina, Heihachi, Paul and Yoshimitsu)
So I wouldn't worry about it much.
Secret Character
Member
Purple gi, looks like Shin Akuma.