I really don't think that is the case. People are interested in the game itself, not because Sony is publishing it on the PS4.
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No Man's Sky pre-orders start March 3rd, $59.99
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I really don't think that is the case. People are interested in the game itself, not because Sony is publishing it on the PS4.
Do you apply the same logic to movies? The production budgets are usually public, so Waterworld, Avatar, and Gods of Egypt should be in the $60 range on blu-ray, while the films from the Criterion Collection should be $5 - $10, right?
CheDominik
Member
I can't imagine the targets are insanely high for this game. Everytime a Quantin Dream game gets released people are rushing out to say that it bombed.
But the reality is that these games continue to get made because they are profitable. I think the same will hold true for NMS.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
I need to know the date, would June/July be a good estimate?
Im willing to bet 70% ( crucify me foe guessing ) dont even visit the PS store to shop.
I go on once a mouth to get my free games. Thats it. I never buy digitally or even browse the storefront to see whats new. This is coming from someone with 36 retail ps4 games.
This is not good.
It has to be a 60 dollar game for one reason only, its a pack in PSVR game so the 60 dollar price point is for precieced value when they announce the IMO high PSVR price at 499 with a game.
I go on once a mouth to get my free games. Thats it. I never buy digitally or even browse the storefront to see whats new. This is coming from someone with 36 retail ps4 games.
This is not good.
It has to be a 60 dollar game for one reason only, its a pack in PSVR game so the 60 dollar price point is for precieced value when they announce the IMO high PSVR price at 499 with a game.
Effigenius
Member
I dont have a problem with the price if it has a physical release. With gcu thats only $48 and I can sell it if I dont want it. But im not paying $60 if its digital only. Will wait for a price drop if thats the case.
Netherscourge
Banned
Get it on STEAM (assuming they sell it on Steam).
http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/
You can play it for 2-hours in total play time (within 14 days of purchase) and if you don't like it, refund it for 100% of your money for ANY REASON.
2 hours should give you a decent idea of what the game will play like. You should be able to scan and shoot rocks and free-fly long enough to get an idea of the game.
bananafactory
Banned
Yeah. Theyve been around long enough I'm sure they have a good idea of what to expect from this. They are fucking insane if they have expectations of anywhere close to Uncharted 4 numbers.
GrantDaNasty
Member
Regarding cheaper games, I'm sure we all want that, but again, the value argument changes heavily from person to person. To me, $60 for this game isn't all that bad, to you, it might be highway robbery.
And again, you're now saying this game should be sold at a little more than at cost, which, we don't know how much it's cost, how many man-hours were spent making it, or how much content it actually has. Again, the value argument doesn't make sense until the game is actually out.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Could get a $40 tag like Ratchet & Clank or The Witness.
CheDominik
Member
IIRC Fallout 4 sold more digitally on day one than the disc version.
BoBoThunder
Member
I'm surprised that people are this upset on the price point. Every single time they talked about this game, you could tell that this was going to be a huge game with a ton of stuff to do. So I knew it wasn't going to be $20.
I've liked what I have seen so I would like to support the developer.
I've liked what I have seen so I would like to support the developer.
This is a terrible analogy.
Games don't have a fixed price model. Movies do (due to distributors' demands).
This might help you understand the difference in markets:
http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2...-blockbusters-bombs-and-the-price-of-a-ticket
Generally speaking, though, since films with presumed limited appeal have to sell at the same price, they have to be made for less money.
Games are a different market.
That is remarkable if true
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Will wait for a sale. No rush for this game. Pretty sure I'd get bored quick.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I generally only buy digital game if they are $20 or less. Less risk if it ends up being a disappointment. The only two games I've paid $60 for digitally are Destiny and Bloodborne. Both of those gave me over a hundred hours of entertainment so it worked out.
My assumptions on cost are only based on what they've said about their team size and asset generation technologies, etc...
Again, though, a pre-order assumes (correctly) that we make value judgments before a game is out, based on marketing materials.
The marketing materials for this game are what I am judging because that's what I have to judge the game by.
All this whining is fucking dumb. If you don't think the price is right then don't buy it, why do you feel the need to post drive by shit posts on here without context as to what you think IS worth £60/£45.
I think this price is more than fair for the content we are getting, even more so if you know what work goes into creating games.
I think this price is more than fair for the content we are getting, even more so if you know what work goes into creating games.
CaptainGyro
Banned
No not really. All it does is show that not everybody wants to pay $60 for it, which can be said about every game nowadays
It's the main reason for me at least. I sell almost all of my games back. Hobby's expensive.
That's what "to want this game at this price" means.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
I'm still not sure how big this game is/will be. It might suffer a bit from the same that burdens Elite Dangerous: being skin-deep. But that's my speculation and I hope I'm completely wrong.
I'll be watching for sales on it, although I'm not exactly gonna hold my breath. I rarely will pay full price for a game.
I'll be watching for sales on it, although I'm not exactly gonna hold my breath. I rarely will pay full price for a game.
and why is that? because it's an indie game? R&C and TW length probably wont be the 0000000000000.1% of the length of NMS
paragonpro
Banned
I have no problem paying 60 for this. i really belive in their vision and this game is likely to have an infinite amount of content (literally!). I get the trading issue, im all digital so it doesnt bother me but I can understand why some might be hesitant to pay 60 bucks for a digital game they cant at least get some kind of return on investment in if they dont like
Agreed.
My only real fears for this game are:
1) The procedural generation will get repetitive too quickly.
2) The PS4 audience won't "get it."
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
I purchased the Witness for $40 and that has definitely soured me on indie games of that price or higher.
Again, something that is said of any game.
This is such a bigger project than either of those two, and that's not meant to be offensive to either Insomniac or Blow.
awesomegamername
Banned
This is spot on.
This realization hit me like a ton of bricks after playing Stardew Valley. I didn't ever think that indie games couldn't go above a certain price point but Stardew Valley re-enforced the fact that indie games are just as good as AAA games today.
Stardew Valley very easily could have been a game released on the 3DS and published by Nintendo. The crazy thing is:
1. One guy made that game
2. It's only $15
Those two things blow me away. It's easily worth $39.99 in my opinion. We are at the point that the only difference between indie games and AAA games is marketing budget (my opinion of course).
Computers created this game! So it should be like $5.
Saint of Killers
Member
You're ignoring the fact the game garnered a huge positive buzz after its début showing, which was long before any deal with Sony was announced.
Also, I feel that criticism isn't so much aimed at people doubting the game's quality but at concern trolls, (I really worry people are expecting it to be Z when it's actually Y.) and those who complain about a lack of details yet aren't willing to read up on the various articles and interviews which would help enlighten them. (But what do you dooooooo?!) Oh and, not forgetting Spore!
StrongBlackVine
Banned
The Witness is pretty damn long game that is hand crafted, not computer generated. I would be shocked if NMS has the same ratio of quality to quantity.
You are saying NMS was a bigger undertaking than the The Witness? I highly doubt that. A bunch of computer generated levels doesn't impress me as of now.
Real_Madrid
Member
We cannot say anything useful until we see the final product. The endless space is not that great if the gameplay is repetitive for example.
People preordering this take a big leap of faith at that price.
That appears to be talking about tickets, not the video release. Criterion movies on disc tend to be more expensive than blockbusters, with the list price being $39 for many Criterion releases.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
You love overpriced games?
What are you even rebutting?
Of course I understand that a marketer's job is to make people want every game at the price that they are asking.
I don't think I will contribute to this thread any further. I've said my piece.
That's hardly an exclusive phenomenon to No Man's Sky, though.
Yes. Console users are still averse to digital because they don't have as much control over their games as PC users. On console, the only control you have over your game is your ownership of the physical delivery medium. On PC you don't really have that, but generally you can do a wide range of things with the code that's on your hard drive: mod it, crack it, install it on any PC, and now you can refund it on Steam, not to mention there are many digital pricing options on PC.
They should pay us!
Their offices were also flooded at some point, weren't they? Maybe this is one of those "success = yay, no success = disaster" scenarios. Even with Sony's help/money.
I love developers challenging common believes. And after witnessing the race to the bottom on smart devices this is an encouraging signal to other developers.
What bait? Have you looked at this thread? People on neogaf still think that an "indie game" can't be worth such a price, no matter the content. This notion is not going away any time soon.
I know this and I know what the game is, I've been following it since day 1. I'm not talking about me, I'm not mad about it, the opposite actually, I want more indies to explore and experiment with prices. It's just that I think it's too soon for this price point, and I do hope I'm wrong.
Guardian Monkey
Member
It was first shown by sony though no? Im pretty sure it was locked up then.