mentallyinept
Banned
Expected price.
Will pick it up down the line, probably not at launch.
Will pick it up down the line, probably not at launch.
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But why does it matter how the game was made? What's the difference between having 10 people make it and having 100 people make it? What if it's procedurally generated?
Isn't the content what matters?
If there's enough content and it is good enough who cares about the how?
More_Badass
Member
If this isnt an indie game, neither is Braid (published by Microsoft on XBLA) or Hotline Miami (Devolver) or Volgarr (Adult Swim)
And the price isnt the point, it's the notion that indie games cant be a certain price for reasons
You know a quick time to a demo is no where near the gotcha! that you are going for here. It is truly ridiculous how much this price point bothers you.
GrantDaNasty
Member
To be fair I don't think the distinction matters. The amount is redundant, it's what consumers are willing to pay vs what the content creators ask for. If people don't want to pay $60 for this, we will see.
Remember, Sony put out The Order: 1886 for $60, and before it was out, you sure didn't see all that much bellyaching about putting down the cash for that game, so whether it's indie or AAA or AAAA or 12-A (whatever that means) shouldn't play a part in any of this.
Icyflamez96
Member
So i'm guessing it's not an indie unless the actual studio is completely owned by a publisher or what.
It's probably going to be physical.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
They have a lot more prove before they can just release it and sell a ton, especially at this price.
It's gonna be a beautiful mess that thread.
I've always thought of Devolver and Adult Swim as indie publishers (as in they publish indie games), even though that's probably an oxymoron.
SirMossyBloke
Member
$60 does seem a little high for digital release only. I always thought part of the $60 was paying for shipping and manufacturing. Is this getting a physical release? I'm really not aware.
Do you make all of your purchasing decisions based on where it is sold in stores?
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Sony got involved because it's an interesting game with potential. I don't doubt that.
All I was saying is there wouldn't be anywhere near the same hype for it if they hadn't. It would just be another potentially promising Indie game, with little talk about it on forums such as this.
As soon as Sony takes it under their wing, it suddenly becomes the next coming of Christ on gaming forums, and no bad word shall be said about it without repercussions!
People are so defensive about a video game lol. It's pathetic.
Pop
Member
Psychoward
Banned
You're delusional.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
If you buy a disc for $60 you can sell it and recoup some of your loss if you don't like it. With digital you're fucked(on PlayStation).
Netherscourge
Banned
Join us on Steam, where 60 USD releases are ONLY digital.
At least on Steam you can get a full refund if you find out the game isn't that great.
I'll definitely check it out on Steam if it's on PC day1 too. Nice to have a chance to check it out before fully committing.
I won't lie. I can't wait for those threads.
Wildstar75
Member
Ditto. Want my $60 then show me the VR support.
I see where you're coming from, but that's still a bad comparison to make. Yes, paying 60 for the next Assassin's Creed but not paying it for what could be the most innovative game in the last decade MAKES TOTAL SENSE. Consumers want "safe" purchases. Nothing is safer than Assassin's Creed or Call of Duty. You know what you're getting, you know if that's worth 60 to YOU or not. That's the problem new IPs face. Add in that it's a download only game (which used to be a 20 category, it isn't anymore of course but that's a habit in thinking that will take some time to go away) and an indie game (yes, there still is a bias towards AAA games being seen as the superior games, that's a dumb bias but it's still there).
I don't think it's wrong to think "I don't want to spend full price for this game", however, proclaiming "This game isn't worth full price" is stupid.
Not the price I expected, but okay. Hello Games must think the level of hype and awareness has reached a point to where they can sell at $60. Or Sony is helping it get a big-ass marketing campaign. That price still might be a big dangerous though for people who are unsure about the game. Not only is it a new IP, it's a genre that has almost never appeared on consoles before.
And yes, people surprised because it's digital need to take a look at PC, where digital stuff made by non-AAA developers has been $60 for years.
And yes, people surprised because it's digital need to take a look at PC, where digital stuff made by non-AAA developers has been $60 for years.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Pretty much the example I always give actually, and I'm sorry but it's why I never understand why people will always clamour to
"MS/Sony/EA published this, it's not indie!"
Who cares? The point about funding contribution is definitely true but we'll never know that so it's a moot point.
Is something like Hotline Miami or Always Sometimes Monsters not indie anymore cos it was published by another company? Even if it is a small team on a small budget creating a game which is small scope and has that undefinable indie appeal?
This topic keeps getting brought up (more and more now with increasing prices outside of AAA, which is objectively a good thing even if you think the price is too high! It's great that we can finally have something in between $15 and $60 blockbuster) but it's a totally worthless discussion.
Star Citizen is technically indie. But that's a worthless moniker to put on such a game.
I'm not saying people have to even enjoy the price. But you if you get the same or more enjoyment with this than any single player experience what's the issue?
If the price isn't your cup of tea just wait. That's all you have to do. I'll never pay $60 for any AC game because I know it'll drop in price.
This isn't the argument that I've been making, so please don't attribute it to me.
First of all, I don't think "indie" is a very useful term.
I don't care if an independent studio puts out AAA development dollars to produce a game and sells it for a AAA price. That strikes me as entirely fair.
If a tiny group of developers puts out a game that cost substantially less to make, regardless of their corporate structure or affiliation, I would hope to pay less for it, unless they show me a very compelling reason why I should be paying more.
The NMS folks haven't yet done that, and the price strikes me as being out of whack.
I'll obviously make a final judgment when I have more information, but that's where I stand at the moment.
Yea I was expecting $30/40 than $60 but will get it at $60 if PS VR is confirmed.
Did you actually miss all the hype and speculation that MS might make it an Xbox One exclusive in the months between the VGX reveal and the announcement at Sony's E3 conference? Remember the flood damage Hello Games suffered and how worried everyone was?
SirMossyBloke
Member
When's the last time you paid $60 for a game on PC? There's discounts everywhere. You'd have to literally avoid every website but Steam to pay full price.
JetSetRadio
Banned
So it could be 69.99 euro digital.
stufte
Member
Should documentary movies have lower ticket prices? Or hand-forged cutlery cost less because it's one person making them instead of a factory?
I agree entirely.
Apparently I've stumbled into an argument of indie vs. major publishers spawned by The Witness' price point, and people in this thread have been attributing beliefs to me entirely that I don't hold.
I want cheaper games, period.
I don't care who made the game, but if they spent a ton on making it, I do understand that I should be expected to pay a bit more.
I saw plenty of complaints about the price of Star Wars BF after it released with no content at full price, it does happen, could even happen to Homefront once it's out. Really any complaints mean nothing until the game is out and people have actually played it.
valkillmore
Member
Take your bait and go fish off a cliff!
The PC market alone will gobble it up, so no.
Psychoward
Banned
Can't wait for the crow.
Icyflamez96
Member
There was a bunch of hype for the game before all of the Sony news.
I have no idea what Sony's targets are for this game. I'm sure they want insane numbers for Uncharted 4 but this is just a wildcard at this point. Will be interesting to see.
Just like you attribute beliefs on the developers of this game. Pot meet kettle.