Discotheque
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Really clever. In some ways this feels like a better watchmen movie than his watchmen movie if that makes any sense
He just applied it to the wrong characters
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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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Really clever. In some ways this feels like a better watchmen movie than his watchmen movie if that makes any sense
He just applied it to the wrong characters
Gordon Shumway
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Man..I guess you have higher tolerance for shit than I do. Reed's science teacher ALONE makes the beginning of that movie ridiculous.
lol..terrible.
Drink/smoke..
echoshifting
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Dalek went in but he never came out
Dalek pls respond
Dalek pls respond
I absolutely have. Plenty.
I said there were a lot of people who wanted to like the film so much that they convinced themselves it was good and outright ignored the flaws, and I said I've seen a lot of people do this with BvS already. I didn't single you or anyone else out (I have buddies right now going "this movie was flawless, man! No flaws! It's Batman v Superman! It has no flaws because the premise was flawless!"... and I know those friends well enough to know that time won't be kind to this opinion).
Similarly, I also said there are people out there who legitimately love the Prequel Trilogies, no delusions involved. They love Jar-Jar Binks and midichlorians and Anakin's acting and they're genuine in that love, no matter how much other people hate or make fun of those elements. It's all ultimately opinion, just as there are people who despise Lex Luthor in this film while I've read some people saying he's the highlight of the film.
That's not elitism, just an observation. I haven't seen fanboys get themselves up in a tizzy like this since the Phantom Menace and, to a lesser degree, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (though even those movies, despite how mocked they are currently, had enough critical praise at release to make them certified fresh.)
Whether you like or dislike the film really doesn't bother me, though I would PREFER DC go in a different direction. After two films, like the Transformers or Twilight franchise, I have resigned myself to the fact I will not be enjoying the Zack Snyder-led DC Universe, but if there is a fan following for the films, by all means enjoy them. Inevitably, we'll get a different Batman years down the line, and if nothing else no film can "ruin my childhood" because I still own the Batman: Animated Series and Mask of the Phantasm and those seem pretty timeless and age-proof at this point.
Will you watch the director's cut
For me the movie is a solid 6/10 I think, but I really think the DC can improve it in regards to restoring proper story and character flow
Or worse. He loves them for the wrong reasons.
Can Crusher
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This movie is on the level of Last Stand and Amazing Spiderman 2 at best.
That'd definitely describe how I felt watching Watchmen.
Shit, Watchmen is just too stuffed for a movie. Should've made it an HBO mini-series or something.
Same reason Underworld was. Angsty faux-goth teens.
Discotheque
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I'm gonna buy it because I like throwing away my money lol and also because that first 30 min is legitimately great
Between my batman fandom and my morbid curiosity in what the other 30 minutes is like I definitely will check it out.
Imo tho a lot needs to be edited and taken out rather than just simply added. I hope the new cut is paced differently
You summed up snyder well with that post. He directs great sequences but often sandwiches them in bad pacing and stupid decisions.
I think Snyder should honestly give up directing and become a full time cinematographer, he would probably be one of the best in the business. He can't cut it with directing, for me he's pretty much on Uwe Boll level right now.
WaterAstro
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Zeyphersan
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Tbh I've given up all hope
We gotta travel back to the past. We have to stop Dalek from ever watching this movie.
Bobby Roberts
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Holy shit, lol
Demoncarnotaur
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Oh my god, lol
Does the audience score count for anything?
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/#audience_reviews
71% not too shabby.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/#audience_reviews
71% not too shabby.
bananafactory
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It started at 90something and has been steadily dropping
But it doesn't really mean much anyway. There was 100k 'reviews' or something before the movie was even out
echoshifting
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That's less than Man of Steel or Thor 2 and I hated those movies
Considering that it had over 100k audience ratings and a 90%+ score within hours of the movie hitting theaters, no it doesn't. The fact that the score has dropped so much despite the ballot stuffing by DC fans to artificially raise the score is pretty telling about what the actual audience really thinks about this movie.
Bobby Roberts
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Can't imagine he wouldn't be. He was days away from starting shooting on his own Justice League movie about 7 years ago.
Liquidsnake
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Well guys movie starts in an hour
See you in the sun
See you in the sun
SENPAIatLARGE
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The only way to save the DCEU is for flash to stop Man of Steel from happening with time travel. Like if he can contact bat man thru the speedforce, why the hell did he not warn Superman about Zod? Or just speedpunch Lex in the dick when he was about to create doomsday.
bananafactory
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To be fair it's probably now ballot stuffing from people who are just jumping on the hate parade
It's almost impossible to take anything from these types of metrics when a movie is in the spotlight like this one is
orthodoxy1095
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lol, the list of things with a higher audience score would be fun to go through, but I won't bother.
Anyways, audience score doesn't count for much with the ballot stuffing that was going on.
Very true.
Bobby Roberts
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Picked up time travel tips from Jean Luc Picard.
Mix Master
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Dc would turn his film into a 2 hour commercial, nah breh. He should make the next MM
George Oscar Bluth II
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If they were to do this, do ya think they'd just dust off and refine the Justice League: Mortal script?
I can see that happening although to me it would solidify Batman as the most unlikable character in a franchise.
Shit, that could work.
Have to stop the world (and the audience) from ever hating him in the first place.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Ah yeah, that's true. Batman doesn't come out of that movie looking good at all.
It's interesting to me that Watchmen is my favorite comic movie and, after seeing this today, Batman v Superman is now my number two. Then I read the discussions and the film is getting the same kind of response as Watchmen.
In both films I love the style, type of music used to enhance scenes, and the slower pace. People are different.
In both films I love the style, type of music used to enhance scenes, and the slower pace. People are different.
bananafactory
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Hey Bobby have you actually seen BvS yet? I don't think I've seen you post a take on it
ThoseDeafMutes
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George Oscar Bluth II
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LOL. He's the cheater so what goes around comes around I guess. DED @ special guest appearance by Charlie Cox.
I didn't realise Bullseye forced kissed her.
Hydrogen Bluebird
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Saw this last night. Here are some thoughts (also posted this in the spoiler thread)/
Bad/not so good:
- All of the dream/knightmare sequences weren't really necessary. They killed the flow of the movie, and a lot of people watching wouldn't be able to tell what's going on
- As said many times before, the movie could have been edited a lot better. There were a lot of really fast or weird cuts and some poor transitions
- I felt like the build-up to the BvS fight took too long, and audiences would have gotten bored or confused by the time it took place
- Man, they didn't give Clark/Superman a lot to work with in terms of interaction/dialogue. His lines were too short, and he had limited interaction with anybody else not named Lois Lane. Henry Cavil also had this weird constipated look for most of the movie
- Lex Luthor was not compelling at all. I usually feel like the best villains are the ones that make you root for them, or at the very least, make you very interested in their villainous scheme. Eisenberg's luthor didn't do either for me. It's also quite different from the calm/non-eccentric Luthor I've known.
- The fight scenes were good but I don't think they were as good as the ones in recent Marvel movies like Winter Soldier and Ultron. Probably because most fight scenes in those movies take place in bright or well-lit environments, whereas most of BvS' fight scenes take place in dark environments and there are times when you can't really see what's going on. I was also hoping to see more team-up/tag-team sequences in the fight scenes.
- Amy Adams is a pretty good actress, but I wish they didn't make Lois Lane a walking plot device.
- Felt like Superman took a lot of Ls in this movie
Okay/good:
- I'm not sure if the score is as good or better than Zimmer's work in the Batman trilogy or Man of Steel but it's still pretty good, together with Junkie XL's work
- Ben Affleck had the best on-screen presence (followed by Gal Gadot). The Batman fight scenes were well done as well, although yeah, it seems weird seeing Batman
Affleck also did some good acting as Bruce Wayne. You could feel and understand his weariness after almost 2 decades of being a vigilante, and his motivations for going up against Batman. Some great lines as well:
- I do feel like they gave Wonder Woman just enough screen time to make audiences very excited for the Wonder Woman movie. Wonder Woman's part in the Doomsday fight was pretty great too (sword, shield, lasso, etc.)
- I also liked Jeremy Irons as Alfred, and Diane Lane as Martha Kent (although she understandably had less screen time here than in MOS). Granted, the two are experienced and well-established actors at this point in they careers so most people would expect them to do well. Diane Lane/Martha Kent also had the best joke in the entire movie.
- Really liked how they teased other would-be members of the Justice league in the movie,
- I think the Batman vs. Superman fight is the best part of the movie
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Overall
Just an okay effort. It's mostly an okay movie with just some moments of being good. Not great but not terrible either. It is quite disappointing that they didn't knock it out of the park with this movie, especially considering DC's top trinity is in the damn thing. Meanwhile, other lesser known/revered characters like Deadpool has had a good and very well-received movie. Guardians of the Galaxy also had an excellent and high-grossing movie as well. If this movie makes less than both Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy, DC/Warner should really take a look at what went wrong and how they can fix and improve their cinematic efforts.
Bad/not so good:
- All of the dream/knightmare sequences weren't really necessary. They killed the flow of the movie, and a lot of people watching wouldn't be able to tell what's going on
- As said many times before, the movie could have been edited a lot better. There were a lot of really fast or weird cuts and some poor transitions
- I felt like the build-up to the BvS fight took too long, and audiences would have gotten bored or confused by the time it took place
- Man, they didn't give Clark/Superman a lot to work with in terms of interaction/dialogue. His lines were too short, and he had limited interaction with anybody else not named Lois Lane. Henry Cavil also had this weird constipated look for most of the movie
- Lex Luthor was not compelling at all. I usually feel like the best villains are the ones that make you root for them, or at the very least, make you very interested in their villainous scheme. Eisenberg's luthor didn't do either for me. It's also quite different from the calm/non-eccentric Luthor I've known.
- The fight scenes were good but I don't think they were as good as the ones in recent Marvel movies like Winter Soldier and Ultron. Probably because most fight scenes in those movies take place in bright or well-lit environments, whereas most of BvS' fight scenes take place in dark environments and there are times when you can't really see what's going on. I was also hoping to see more team-up/tag-team sequences in the fight scenes.
- Amy Adams is a pretty good actress, but I wish they didn't make Lois Lane a walking plot device.
- Felt like Superman took a lot of Ls in this movie
(losing to Batman, getting nuked, being killed by Doomsday, always getting hit/tossed). He felt like a jobber, and rarely had any moment of bad-assery/triumph.
Okay/good:
- I'm not sure if the score is as good or better than Zimmer's work in the Batman trilogy or Man of Steel but it's still pretty good, together with Junkie XL's work
- Ben Affleck had the best on-screen presence (followed by Gal Gadot). The Batman fight scenes were well done as well, although yeah, it seems weird seeing Batman
not having a no kill rule.
"I'm much older now than my father ever was", "this may be the only thing I do that matters"
- I do feel like they gave Wonder Woman just enough screen time to make audiences very excited for the Wonder Woman movie. Wonder Woman's part in the Doomsday fight was pretty great too (sword, shield, lasso, etc.)
- I also liked Jeremy Irons as Alfred, and Diane Lane as Martha Kent (although she understandably had less screen time here than in MOS). Granted, the two are experienced and well-established actors at this point in they careers so most people would expect them to do well. Diane Lane/Martha Kent also had the best joke in the entire movie.
- Really liked how they teased other would-be members of the Justice league in the movie,
especially the research/video files that Lex had and how Diana watched each one (although I really didn't like Flash appearing in Bruce's dream)
- I think the Batman vs. Superman fight is the best part of the movie
(even if it took a long time to get to it).
Not so sure why they killed off Superman/used the death of Superman storyline this early, but it's something we haven't seen before so it's okay.
Overall
Just an okay effort. It's mostly an okay movie with just some moments of being good. Not great but not terrible either. It is quite disappointing that they didn't knock it out of the park with this movie, especially considering DC's top trinity is in the damn thing. Meanwhile, other lesser known/revered characters like Deadpool has had a good and very well-received movie. Guardians of the Galaxy also had an excellent and high-grossing movie as well. If this movie makes less than both Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy, DC/Warner should really take a look at what went wrong and how they can fix and improve their cinematic efforts.
Discotheque
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I get ptsd triggered when anybody mentions that movie
SENPAIatLARGE
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Hell, X-Men DOFP successfully fixed their 2 worst movies by using time travel to retcon them out of existence, allowing them to keep the same actors and themes, but in an actually good universe.
Good lord, Frank Miller is the perfect example of not giving a new director 100 million. Lionsgate was desperate as fuck.
PreFire
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I wouldn't be mad.
Let's just hope Ezra does an amazing job. His
appearance in BvS
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