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Trump advisor Flynn discussed sanctions w/ Russia before inauguration, despite denial
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Trump said he hasn't seen any report about this.
He respond in a series of simple, pre-fab phrases even a parrot could learn.
Same thing with Stephanopoulos just now. Just kept saying to ask someone from Pence's office.
Also kept saying "Come to New Hampshire, everybody will tell you!" as proof of the bullshit claim Trump made about voter fraud.
Voter Commission[?], proper name of department escapes me, has demanded WH and Trump to produce evidence about their NH claims. Not holding my breath.
onadesertedisland
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Sounds like Miller doesn't want to get caught up in what might happen.
Yet he is pushing agenda that President has supreme power and courts are in wrong or how there was widespread voter fraud in New Hampshire. He is knee deep in shit either way.
onadesertedisland
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No doubt, dude is just as tied to the Russians as the rest of them.
Oh baby. Please let this blow up in the biggest possible way.
I'll have you know that there have been circumstances where I have in fact spoken the truth.
Osiris
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Ouch at that Observer article.
A WH administration so bad that the IC has written it off already as both too incompetent and too compromised to work with or have classified intel shared with it.
A WH administration so bad that the IC has written it off already as both too incompetent and too compromised to work with or have classified intel shared with it.
Oh no doubt, but he's not trying to get into this Flynn shit though. You see how a lot of people are throwing him under the bus and deflecting blame.
Holy shit. LMAO
Ouch at that Observer article.
A WH administration so bad that the IC has written it off already as both too incompetent and too compromised to work with or have classified intel shared with it.
Whats going on was explained lucidly by a senior Pentagon intelligence official, who stated that since January 20, weve assumed that the Kremlin has ears inside the SITROOM, meaning the White House Situation Room, the 5,500 square-foot conference room in the West Wing where the president and his top staffers get intelligence briefings. Theres not much the Russians dont know at this point, the official added in wry frustration.
Damn.
This is absolutely vile.
jesus lol i cant wait for the next le carrre novel
Yeah at this point I can only hope this takes down Trump and the rest of the Republican party. They're all complicit as far as I'm concerned. Every single one deserves to labeled as a traitor.
BlastProcessing
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If this article is accurate... that's apocalyptically bad.
BrassDragon
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There is a real danger of this getting drowned out by all the other Trump controversies because this is the big one.
We already know Russia tried to swing the US election in favor of Donald Trump but if there was active collusion between his campaign staff and the Russians, as suggested by Flynn's actions and attempts to cover them up, the fallout would be insane.
Putin is already ruthlessly clearing house in his cybersecurity apparatus, presumably to get rid of the evidence. This scandal needs to get traction fast.
We already know Russia tried to swing the US election in favor of Donald Trump but if there was active collusion between his campaign staff and the Russians, as suggested by Flynn's actions and attempts to cover them up, the fallout would be insane.
Putin is already ruthlessly clearing house in his cybersecurity apparatus, presumably to get rid of the evidence. This scandal needs to get traction fast.
NullPointer
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That is monumentally breathtaking if true, and I'd like to see some corroboration.The Observer said:
I'd say that's new thread worthy, just saw it as well. There should be hell to pay if this guy stays on.
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capitalCORN
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Trump just got his alibi.
Wag
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Well, I'm convinced...
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To be fair, that's the same conclusion just about anyone with intelligence has reached.Ouch at that Observer article.
A WH administration so bad that the IC has written it off already as both too incompetent and too compromised to work with or have classified intel shared with it.
It would have been naive to not presume the IC would reach that same conclusion.
The only instance where it would not would be if it was compromised already.
Flynn isn't going anywhere any time soon, as I expected.
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Michael Flynn has no plans to resign and no expectations that he will be fired, a senior administration official told CNN Sunday.
While Flynn may have no plans to leave the White House, many inside the Trump administration are concerned with the fact that the national security adviser could have misled senior members of the White House, including Vice President Mike Pence, who went on national television and denied that Flynn spoke about sanctions with Sergey Kislyak, Russian ambassador to Washington.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/13/p...mp-white-house0209PMStoryLink&linkId=34435221
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Michael Flynn has no plans to resign and no expectations that he will be fired, a senior administration official told CNN Sunday.
While Flynn may have no plans to leave the White House, many inside the Trump administration are concerned with the fact that the national security adviser could have misled senior members of the White House, including Vice President Mike Pence, who went on national television and denied that Flynn spoke about sanctions with Sergey Kislyak, Russian ambassador to Washington.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/13/p...mp-white-house0209PMStoryLink&linkId=34435221
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If he's not going to play the fall guy, then we can focus on taking down the whole bunch of them.
The Democrats need to raise hell over this. Absolutely shameful, could you imagine if something like this happened under Obama or even Bush?
https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/831248552873582593
Flynn is staying and only bad thing that happened here is that it was leaked how Flynn committed possible crime
Edit: Flynn stays. WH hopes to sweep this under the rug?
This is stunning.
Four days of total silence, and the best they can finally come up with is, "Yes he directly undermined the US, repeatedly lied to the President and Vice President, lied to Congress. lied to the American people, and we're going to make sure we punish the those in the intelligence community who stepped forward to expose this."
The House Intel Charmian just attacked the Intelligence community for doing the right thing, referring to them as part of the "swamp". Again, it's stunning. A Clinton, or any Democratic administration, would get ripped apart by the so called liberal media for something like this.
Four days of total silence, and the best they can finally come up with is, "Yes he directly undermined the US, repeatedly lied to the President and Vice President, lied to Congress. lied to the American people, and we're going to make sure we punish the those in the intelligence community who stepped forward to expose this."
The House Intel Charmian just attacked the Intelligence community for doing the right thing, referring to them as part of the "swamp". Again, it's stunning. A Clinton, or any Democratic administration, would get ripped apart by the so called liberal media for something like this.
jakonovski
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Putin still has use for Flynn so he flashed the pee pee tape.
Nobody seems to be going out of their way to stop them from doing so, so why not?
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Seems like Trump can't get rid of Flynn because they are all complicit with the action. Time for the impeachment proceedings to begin.
I really do think there is a big batch of them that are all in it together. They are trying to figure out how to navigate this right now. Potential for problems throwing him under the bus but also potential for problems keeping him if there is hard evidence.
The White House has examined a transcript of a wiretapped conversation that Mr. Flynn had with Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, in December. The call in included a discussion about sanctions against Russia and other issues. But Mr. Flynn is believed to have told Mr. Pence that sanctions and other policy was not discussed.
Current and former senior officials said that the F.B.I. has been looking into the phone call. A former administration official said that the transcript is ambiguous enough to give the White House justification, should Mr. Trump want to retain Mr. Flynn.
Classified information does not appear to have been discussed, the official said.
Mr. Flynn never explicitly promised sanctions relief, the former official said, but he appeared to leave the impression that it would be possible.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/...-michael-flynn.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
I don't believe it for a second Trump didn't have some kind of knowledge about it.
FinaruDensetsu
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At this point the supporters are so entrenched that I am 100% certain they would still support him even if a tape was released of him in the act, and finishing the entire act. They would likely just state that he blessed the women he peed on or vice versa.
EatinOlives
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What a surprise, nobody involved can keep their story straight. Even better that the Kremlin themselves just threw in their hat, and did so by lying.
Other than the White House and deadbeat Congress, is there any other governmental body that can do something about this? Is this in the preview of the FBI?
Don't think that would matter, friend.
They figure they'll ride it out, it'll blow over, and then their great '18 map will let them gain seats, allowing them to cheat/voter suppress/gerrymander their way through '20.
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