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Yes... it's probably worth like $9999 lol.It's also a business product, not a consumer product. To claim that Denali is a consumer-level SSD is like saying that Threadripper/Epyc is a "gaming" CPU.
Yes... it's probably worth like $9999 lol.It's also a business product, not a consumer product. To claim that Denali is a consumer-level SSD is like saying that Threadripper/Epyc is a "gaming" CPU.
It is actually more like a performance cliff. Up to a certain percentage full then you have almost 100% of an SSDs performance (say 75-80%) then the performance degrades significantly after that. It is dependent on the Controller on the drive as it needs empty space to be able to move data around to "wear level" the drive to make sure that certain parts of the NAND Flash chips that are heavily used don't fail early in the drive's lifetime.Well … shit. I wasn't aware of this. My older brother (who up until recently used to be a PC geek) informed me about this.
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Why Solid-State Drives Slow Down As You Fill Them Up
The benchmarks are clear: Solid-state drives slow down as you fill them up.www.howtogeek.com
So, basically, the more games you install, the slower your SSD gets.
2*512GB SSDs for incredible speeds.![]()
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post) OT
Microsoft apparently helped build Denali, a huge 16TB SSD with Software Defined Flash (SDF) for the Open Compute Project. It's an enterprise SSD designed for cloud. "Microsoft partnered with Scenic Labs, LightOn and Toshiba to build what we saw as the first building block to understand how to...www.resetera.com
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Welcome to the war zone.Hello everyone, my first message in NeoGAF
Hello everyone, my first message in NeoGAF.
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has anyone seen this yet?
Not only pathetic, but entertaining as hell.It's rather pathetic that 6 years later, some people still have that same console warz fanaticism.
For all the people still dreaming about Samsung 7nm EUV
Yields for 7nm < 30%
I am guessing bigger then expected jumps (~12TF) will come at expense of considerably bigger box + 50% increase of wattage.
Which node will they use? It all points to 7nm. Perhaps 7P from TSMC, but thats ~10% increase in performance, no where near the promised one of EUV.
Damn! Imagine ~350mm² chip on Samsungs 7nm node. I suspect their performance targets have been missed as well...
More bullshit and no actual information.What’s happening next week?
No.Do you guys think that PS5 and Xsex should have an expansion slot? Instead of mid-refresh of PS5Pro and XsexX they could add a 32x like device in the expansion slot so it can have extra graphics, because what is the point of re-releasing the optical drive, ssd drive, etc? Unless they are drastically changing the internals: GDDR6 to HBM3, 7nm Zen 2 to 5nm Zen5, RDNA 2 to something next gen, Wifi6 to wifi7. Would USB thunderbolt 3 or usb 4.0 (instead of a proprietary expansion slot) be enough for them to add a 32x like device with extra graphics horsepower? I understand consoles are trying to do hardware refresh cycles similar to smartphones, but I dont really want to keep on buying new consoles all the time. My xbox one x is already outdated due to xsex.
For all the people still dreaming about Samsung 7nm EUV
Yields for 7nm < 30%
I am guessing bigger then expected jumps (~12TF) will come at expense of considerably bigger box + 50% increase of wattage.
Which node will they use? It all points to 7nm. Perhaps 7P from TSMC, but thats ~10% increase in performance, no where near the promised one of EUV.
Damn! Imagine ~350mm² chip on Samsungs 7nm node. I suspect their performance targets have been missed as well...
Its bad. Real bad for Samsung.Holy shit that's disgraceful for Samsung.
Process nodes for chips are probably very very hard since very few companies can actually pull that off. I mean freaking Intel has been struggling for years.
Well … shit. I wasn't aware of this. My older brother (who up until recently used to be a PC geek) informed me about this.
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Why Solid-State Drives Slow Down As You Fill Them Up
The benchmarks are clear: Solid-state drives slow down as you fill them up.www.howtogeek.com
So, basically, the more games you install, the slower your SSD gets.
That sounds pretty confident … considering we have yet to see a console which uses SSDs as the default. Don't get me wrong, I too think they could find a solution to this, but I am not sure if they will.That's PC world bullshit.
Custom hardware like a console can ditch block addressing which fixes the problem.
For all the people still dreaming about Samsung 7nm EUV
Yields for 7nm < 30%
I am guessing bigger then expected jumps (~12TF) will come at expense of considerably bigger box + 50% increase of wattage.
Which node will they use? It all points to 7nm. Perhaps 7P from TSMC, but thats ~10% increase in performance, no where near the promised one of EUV.
Damn! Imagine ~350mm² chip on Samsungs 7nm node. I suspect their performance targets have been missed as well...
That sounds pretty confident … considering we have yet to see a console which uses SSDs as the default. Don't get me wrong, I too think they could find a solution to this, but I am not sure if they will.
Well, Cerny said in March that they would be on TSMC 7nm node. RDNA2 will launch first half of next year on EUV, so thats almost certainly what they are going to use in next gen consoles.
Who was dreaming of Samsung EUV in a next gen console?
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post) OT
Microsoft apparently helped build Denali, a huge 16TB SSD with Software Defined Flash (SDF) for the Open Compute Project. It's an enterprise SSD designed for cloud. "Microsoft partnered with Scenic Labs, LightOn and Toshiba to build what we saw as the first building block to understand how to...www.resetera.com
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Yeah, that confused me too.
We weren’t expecting Samsung EUV were we? Just AMD EUV? Unless I’m missing something here?
What youre missing is our friend R600 here looking for FUD to push his agenda of a 9.2 TF console
When he is not busy maligning fellow posters by calling them retards that is.
You havent put tht dude on ignore? I did tht over a year ago![]()
For all the people still dreaming about Samsung 7nm EUV
Yields for 7nm < 30%
I am guessing bigger then expected jumps (~12TF) will come at expense of considerably bigger box + 50% increase of wattage.
Which node will they use? It all points to 7nm. Perhaps 7P from TSMC, but thats ~10% increase in performance, no where near the promised one of EUV.
Damn! Imagine ~350mm² chip on Samsungs 7nm node. I suspect their performance targets have been missed as well...
You have red gaming tech saying that they are hearing the Xbox GPU is more powerful, as well as the xbox Ray tracing is better than the PS5.There were several leaks in the 12, 13, 14tf territory, and only one (the Gonzalo shit by komashi) began the 8tf shit show that we been having for several months. It was the right ammunition, at the right time, for the fanboys fight the 13/14 tf PS5 rumors. Then became the gospel for the 'worried that we were over our heads' and were going to be desapointed, and finally infecting the more cautious in specs.
Hell, i admit that even i started to doubt at some point,... but if people listened (lol read) what many in here with great knowledge, have said and explained all this time to counter the 8/9tf theories, everyone would know by now that something didn't quite compute. Just an example from a layman perspective: Sony doubled the CU count from ps4 to pro, a mid gen refresh, (that everyone still calling a half harsed upgrade by the way) from 18 to 40, and bumped the clock a little to 0,911 and now, for new generation machine, with hardware RT, maintains the same number of computer units as the mid gen, 3 years ago refresh, doubles the clock speed and calls it a day, voila, job done... Hmmm
Why does he then go on to explain that he always gamed on many systems and that he is now unshackled from the PR speak and that he saw this through his now job at Blizzard?In case this wasn't already discussed, he posted that on the RDX podcast chat when they were talking about the Xbox Series X I/O speeds. This was talking about the Series X, not the PS5. Him mentioning the PS5 was to give an example of Sony having already demoed the benefits of their SSD solution. It's crazy that without proper context everyone latched on to this as if he was talking just about the PS5. SMH.
Well … shit. I wasn't aware of this. My older brother (who up until recently used to be a PC geek) informed me about this.
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Why Solid-State Drives Slow Down As You Fill Them Up
The benchmarks are clear: Solid-state drives slow down as you fill them up.www.howtogeek.com
So, basically, the more games you install, the slower your SSD gets.
You have red gaming tech saying that they are hearing the Xbox GPU is more powerful, as well as the xbox Ray tracing is better than the PS5.
Sony and MS would know what each others specs are, and both have the ability to match what the other is doing, so long as they have the same Cu's. Both are able to remove heat from their consoles and get the highest clocks.
I wouldn't be surprised if both come in at the exact same power level.
I probably should. But theres just something cute about him lol.
Can you give screengrabs/links?Why does he then go on to explain that he always gamed on many systems and that he is now unshackled from the PR speak and that he saw this through his now job at Blizzard?
Yet some random on an internet forum does?RedGamingTech knows nothing.
Yet some random on an internet forum does?
Just think, 11 months from now we'll own the most powerful console system ever made. We'll play all our current games and new launch titles on it and be grinning ear to ear. I can't wait.
I just had to delete 3GB to download the latest 5GB Fortnite patch when I have 40+GB of free space.
After installing the patch the game went from 29GB to 30GB. Not gonna mention the super fast copying process.
What the actual fuck is going on with the PS4 storage system? Is it that dumb?
And there's this "other" section occupying 2.20GB and I have no idea what it is.
I hope the SSD cures this dumbness.
I just had to delete 3GB to download the latest 5GB Fortnite patch when I have 40+GB of free space.
After installing the patch the game went from 29GB to 30GB. Not gonna mention the super fast copying process.
What the actual fuck is going on with the PS4 storage system? Is it that dumb?
And there's this "other" section occupying 2.20GB and I have no idea what it is.
I hope the SSD cures this dumbness.
Really?It’s how the developers choose to go about it.
I just downloaded 8GB for RDR2 and it didn’t do any of this. Acted like they all used to, download and installed instantly with none of that copying files.
Really?
Just think, 11 months from now we'll own the most powerful console system ever made. We'll play all our current games and new launch titles on it and be grinning ear to ear. I can't wait.
Here is the video, it is at about 1.29.00 to 1.32.00 in the chat.Can you give screengrabs/links?
When patching a game usually the entire size of the game must be free on the hdd/ssd.I just had to delete 3GB to download the latest 5GB Fortnite patch when I have 40+GB of free space.
After installing the patch the game went from 29GB to 30GB. Not gonna mention the super fast copying process.
What the actual fuck is going on with the PS4 storage system? Is it that dumb?
And there's this "other" section occupying 2.20GB and I have no idea what it is.
I hope the SSD cures this dumbness.