FranXico
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Wipeout Omega Collection
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pawel86ck
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According to Digital Foundy analysis xbox x version is almost maxed out and you need 30fps boost in order to run FH4 on RX 580 at 4K 60fs. You need 1080ti for locked 60fps with xbox x settings in this game.
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Fake
Member
This guy is a dumbass. He start to put console war bait on twitter and everyone bashing him get blocked on twitter.
Idiot.
Nickolaidas
Member
I love the fact that some of us who don't speak tech are so thirsty to know about the strength of next gen (and be able to understand the leaks) that we're dabbling into tech terminology and info.
ANIMAL1975
Member
No
Stop with this nonsense
We know since forever by Apisac and Komachi that Gonzalo is ps5
Tweet:
@Komachi
GonzAlo is PS5
We know by PCB leak from a working manufacturer Asian dude that
Tweet:
@asian dude working on PS5 chip
PCB : Ps5 is CheckerBoard halfarse chip
We have AMD tests of Oberon, that is Ariel, That is Gonzalo, that Rogame datamined
Tweet:
@Rogame
Oberon is 36CU 9tf ps5
AAnd we got Alberto Penello, not random internet insiderlol confirmation
Tweet:
@albertoXrules.penello
PS5 is going to be 8, 9tf 399$ great machine, nothing to be ashamed of, we gamers should all happy
Here! All concrete confirmed information with tweets of Asian dudes and Penello to back up! What do you have? Your wishful dreams lol stap
Gonzalo
Thank you bro.
Jesus... Turning the leaf my ass!
Rightisright
Banned
One thing about Forza 7 we do know, the PS4 Pro couldnt run it in either native 4k or 60fps.Forza not a high level game? Its better than the classic legendary Gran Turismo in every way. Comparing it to how it runs on PC ( which used to be awful but is now awesome)... just proves that all Playstation 4 games are gimped by the limited hardware. Its no feat of Sony hardware that makes their exclusives look good .. its the software ... and God of War, Horizon and the Last of us would all run super fast on PC.
If u want to talk about high level games how about bf5, or cod, ... any console game that runs at 60 fps on normal consoles runs at 4k 60 on xbox one x ... it doses exactly what was advertised ( unlike the ps5 pro).
Its no shock that rdr2 isnt 60 fps as you need a 2080 to run that at 4K 60 ... sorry i mean a 2080ti( the pc master race is < 1% of PC players)
Rightisright
Banned
I said as good looking.
Nickolaidas
Member
I take it you're part of 'everyone'?
Fake
Member
I said it's not profissional doing that and get blocked. Very offensive answer I give him right?I take it you're part of 'everyone'?
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Bogroll
Likes moldy games
It goes all the way back to 7 colours and only being able to show 2 colours in a 8x8 square on Spectrum v 16 colours on screen for the C64 for me and every generation since.
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Rightisright
Banned
"WipEout Omega Collection looks utterly stunning, with remastered tracks and ships at 1080P on PS4 and dynamic 4K on PS4Pro all at 60FPS."
According to Sony anyway.
Wipeout Omega Collection gets 7th June release date, first details on the soundtrack
Pre-order on PlayStation Store now and receive an exclusive dynamic theme
blog.eu.playstation.com
thelastword
Banned
I know Sage would never throw me a bone, but TBF, there were some rumors way back in 2016 that Sony was considering a more expensive PRO......It could have been a PRO that fed the 64 rops of the PRO with more memory, yet some argued that it could have included a Zen CPU......For PRO, in hindsight, Zen would have been too much of a headache to make work as the mobile APU's for Zen and even 1st gen Ryzen launch after the PRO's launch...…..XBONEX launched closer to the mobile Zen APU, but as Cerny said, compatibility and cost were huge factors......MS was the only manufacturer who had a chance to put Zen in it's mid gen refresh, but the cost would be too much and way too much of a gamble for them after their slow start...The XBONEX with jaguars landed with 32 rops and at $500 dollars......Zen on XBONEX would probably make MS price the XBONEX at $6-700, that would be suicide for a mid gen refresh, seeing as even the $500 XBONEX had to be reduced quickly and was on sale almost immediately after launch.....
Infinite Warfare is dynamic 4K...…….Killer instinct is probably the most basic looking and ugliest fighter the entire gen, those character models and textures (ewww) It also runs flawlessly on a RX 580 at 4k 60fps with a modest CPU, even when supers hit the screen unlike the XBONEX version.....Both Forza 7 and K.I can run easily on very modest PC hardware.....
Nickolaidas
Member
Teach me, sensei! Show me the path you've walked!!Guess who learned all the tech terms yesterday? Damn right it's me! I thought
it's going to be complicated but since I am a bit informed thanks to following the industry for all my life
Everything was easy to understand. So here I am, joining the discussions as of today
FranXico
Member
"WipEout Omega Collection looks utterly stunning, with remastered tracks and ships at 1080P on PS4 and dynamic 4K on PS4Pro all at 60FPS."
According to Sony anyway.
Wipeout Omega Collection gets 7th June release date, first details on the soundtrack
Pre-order on PlayStation Store now and receive an exclusive dynamic theme
WipEout at 4K 60fps is PS4 Pro at its best
WipEout's Omega Collection revamp has already scored a Eurogamer Recommended badge, but here at Digital Foundry, we sim…
www.eurogamer.net
Resolution may be dynamic, but it never drops below 4k in Pro, just like it never drops below 1080p in base console. The reason for DR is that the PS3 game engine already featured this.
Also, many games on X are also using dynamic resolution, do ocasionally drop below 4k and people gleefully ignore this.
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thelastword
Banned
Almost is not the best settings...…..Worse reflections, reduced lighting and shadows.....
This video explains it.....and remember, I have specified the RX 580 which runs Forza games better than the 1060.....X is using AMD hardware and the 1060 on the masher PRO still came on top, farless if the Masher PRO was decked with an RX 580....
Fake
Member
You do not fool me. You and your Switch PRO devkit.
Mista
Banned
"WipEout Omega Collection looks utterly stunning, with remastered tracks and ships at 1080P on PS4 and dynamic 4K on PS4Pro all at 60FPS."
According to Sony anyway.
Wipeout Omega Collection gets 7th June release date, first details on the soundtrack
Pre-order on PlayStation Store now and receive an exclusive dynamic theme
Motion blur enabled:
-4K output: 2160p with checkerboarding
-1080p output: 1080p with 4x SSAA
Motion Blur disabled:
-4K output: Native 4K with 4x8 EQAA
-1080p output: 1080p with 4x SSAA
WipEout at 4K 60fps is PS4 Pro at its best
WipEout's Omega Collection revamp has already scored a Eurogamer Recommended badge, but here at Digital Foundry, we sim…
Resolution may be dynamic, but it never drops below 4k in Pro, just like it never drops below 1080p in base console. The reason for DR is that the PS3 game engine already featured this.
Also, many games on X are also using dynamic resolution, do ocasionally drop below 4k and people gleefully ignore this.
Motion blur enabled:
-4K output: 2160p with checkerboarding
-1080p output: 1080p with 4x SSAA
Motion Blur disabled:
-4K output: Native 4K with 4x8 EQAA
-1080p output: 1080p with 4x SSAA
rsouzadk
Member
WipEout at 4K 60fps is PS4 Pro at its best
WipEout's Omega Collection revamp has already scored a Eurogamer Recommended badge, but here at Digital Foundry, we sim…
Resolution may be dynamic, but it never drops below 4k in Pro, just like it never drops below 1080p in base console. The reason for DR is that the PS3 game engine already featured this.
Also, many games on X are also using dynamic resolution, do ocasionally drop below 4k and people gleefully ignore this.
You have to turn motion blur off.
Fake
Member
It is a very acceptable exchange.
thelastword
Banned
I hope that you are not one of the posters who go, show me that's 4k 60 on PRO, there are none.....When you are shown you say "it doesn't count"......Hope you are not one of those.....
In any case, Wipeout is 4k 60fps with not a single framedrop…….It has a DR setup in case it drops, but it never drops.…It's also a remaster with updated visuals and looks better than Forza 7 to me.....Try it normally and try it in VR and be amazed....
So pretty much all these 12TF guys have thin skin, why do they rupture so easily....? Anyone who disagrees with them are politely ignored? Get that ass banned Low Tier God style...
It could run it actually at 4k 60fps, Forza is not a high bandwidth game...….
Perhaps you have not played it, get on it......
SportsFan581
Member
^ Current gen systems do not have CPUs (I won't call those cats that in 2020). LOL These comparisons are always nurfed by the use of used hardware or stolen software, etc. In 2015, a Xeon as used still retailed for over $200 and Windows is $100, the math is already falling apart.
You all are too concerned about the specs on both sides, I guess everyone is shooting for disappointment all around? Both systems should be able to handle games at playable rates for the entire generation, something that couldn't be said this gen. Everyone should be happy. Companies have different priorities, let's say both are looking to hit the market at $xxx, maybe one is shooting for the best they can do with a reasonably modest R&D budget (making the most of what is available in a tighter dev window) and one is working with a relatively large R&D budget. There will be some differences, as long as the engineers came to the table with something competitive, everybody wins. Keep in mind that these systems are made up of many components.
Comparisons to PC games are moot, the consoles have an edge in optimization thanks to known hardware. I have a feeling the games will look great.
You all are too concerned about the specs on both sides, I guess everyone is shooting for disappointment all around? Both systems should be able to handle games at playable rates for the entire generation, something that couldn't be said this gen. Everyone should be happy. Companies have different priorities, let's say both are looking to hit the market at $xxx, maybe one is shooting for the best they can do with a reasonably modest R&D budget (making the most of what is available in a tighter dev window) and one is working with a relatively large R&D budget. There will be some differences, as long as the engineers came to the table with something competitive, everybody wins. Keep in mind that these systems are made up of many components.
Comparisons to PC games are moot, the consoles have an edge in optimization thanks to known hardware. I have a feeling the games will look great.
rsouzadk
Member
i am not saying otherwise. Love the game (have platinumed in ps3 and ps4).
Fake
Member
Its just a leason others devs could learn next gen. Those options are up to the players.
thelastword
Banned
Options are nice huh!, with no reductions in lighting or any great effect......MB is the first thing I turn off in 60fps games, that includes SF on PC, Uncharted Trilogy on PS4 etc.....I did the same with Wipeout, I played at 4k native 60fps with enhanced AA...….MB vs better AA...….Higher AA wins everytime….
Lort
Banned
So lets talk about how those Playstation games run on Pc ... fing fabulously since they run ok on a 1.8tf low GPU and jag CPU.
What was your point btw?
All i can see is youve helped reminded us all that Xbox one x plays many games at 4k 60, the PS Pro doesn't ... that Microsofts software engineers kick ass making games like Forza that run BETTER than GT with more features, more realism and cross compatibility with PC.
You sometimes come across as a console war fanboy trying to score points in some culture war.
What WAS your point?
Gamernyc78
Banned
OK happy New Years everyone. I respect everyone's preference, let's start this New Year with hopefully some good info on either console. I prefer Sony consoles but I'm very intrigued by both.
thelastword
Banned
Fine, it plays many games at 4k 60fps, what are these games minus Forza? I still did not get an answer...
Lort
Banned
What is your point ? .. take your list wars elsewhere ..
thelastword
Banned
Then stay out of conversations that does not pertain to you......I was simply responding to Rightisright, who said there are many 4k 60fps games on XBONEX and none on PRO.....
Armorian
Banned
Yep, but Osiris said that their solutions to RT are different and even leaks shows that (no mention of RT on suposed PS5 GPU). It could be hardware RT for both but with one performing ok and the other not so much (he earlier said that PS5 has better RT), that would mean versy limited usage in multiplatform games for parity.
PocoJoe
Banned
It is just annoying (generally) when bunch of people with almost zero knowledge try to give out their theories or "analyzes", while they barely even know what gpu/cpu are.
And then when somebody tries to explain why they are wrong, they dont get it because they dont understand the basics.
Then because of that, more morons without knowledge start to believe the "I have a theory"-moron because they cant understand what real tech smart people are saying, so in their eyes the one that cuts corners and talks in more simple terms is more believable.
One sign of intelligence is to know what you dont know, and then not trying to talk about things you dont know anything.
Console wars are kind of fight of retards whom dont listen to their teachers because they talk different language.
And then comes some "youtuber/leaker/insider" whom talks shit but tards think it is true and start to repeat it as a truth
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Lort
Banned
He was responding to your long rambling post that i responded to and im still intrigued as to if you had a point.
Disco_
Member
VFX is a PCMR warrior. In his mind, consoles are a disgrace to gaming.
Lort
Banned
You just described the Climate change debate, the American political discourse and the way the media all work.
FranXico
Member
Thanks.
thelastword
Banned
I say let them all come......Tim Dog, Dealer, Crapgamer, Mister X Media, let them come argue and reveal their leaks, we will see how the real hardware compares to what they say in the end.....
ethomaz
Banned
Even I can guess that with 100% certain.
No console will be revealed at E3.
Both will have events before that.
If aí have to bet: PS5 in Feb/Mar and Xbox in Apr/May.
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thelastword
Banned
Are you guys so sure about this February reveal......I would not reveal anything PS5 until LOU 2, FF7 and Tsushima drops....There is absolutely no reason or rush for Sony to reveal PS5 specs so early......PS4's 2020 is probably going to be it's best year for games......It should get the limelight IMO...
ethomaz
Banned
It is my bet only but definitely before E3.
E3 will be where 3rd-party show playable games for launch in November.
Both companies have a exclusive reveal event before E3...
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He was verified years ago when Neogaf actually had industry people on the stuff who could verify people.
ethomaz
Banned
Thanks for the info.
There are some posters that get a bit out of the character when the “info” doesn’t match his personal wishes.
So don’t get mad about them.
We will soon knows if you are right or not... and I appreciate all the input you have.
Edit - There are a lot of new users so they will sure question if you are vetted.. just ignore they were not here in the past.
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VFXVeteran
Banned
Looks like PC is your best bet.
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