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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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If you were to guess, what range would you say it's in?
Guess you missed that drop.
Tales from my ass:

SpecPS5Xbox Series X
CPU8C/16T based on Ryzen 4800H mobile CPU - 1.6Ghz/3.2Ghz8C/16T based on Ryzen 4800H mobile CPU - 1.8Ghz/3.5Ghz
GPU12.4TF RDNA with hw accelerated RayTracing12.1TF RDNA with hw accelerated RayTracing
Storage1TB NVMe SSD 5,000 MB/s1TB NVMe SSD 2,200 MB/s
My tales
Ps5 10.7TF
Xbox 11.3 TF.
Bam. 😄
 

onQ123

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Tales from my ass:

SpecPS5Xbox Series X
CPU8C/16T based on Ryzen 4800H mobile CPU - 1.6Ghz/3.2Ghz8C/16T based on Ryzen 4800H mobile CPU - 1.8Ghz/3.5Ghz
GPU12.4TF RDNA with hw accelerated RayTracing12.1TF RDNA with hw accelerated RayTracing
Storage1TB NVMe SSD 5,000 MB/s1TB NVMe SSD 2,200 MB/s



Is these the specs someone sent you?
 
So since things changed, do you think if ps5 more powerful. Like 13.5 to 12? Can MS cut the gap with VRS?

Out of curiosity, do you genuinely how believe that the PS5 has the edge? I honestly have no idea, but you seemed very confident recently - so just want to see if anything has changed.
 

semicool

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I fully admit that any of my assumptions might be wrong, but they are the most solid information we have. I am just reconciling them.

I think that is ok in speculation thread.

edit: how would you reconcile them?
You just said it, they could be wrong. I have a confident belief in the concerns I posted with dual GPU s that that's the case. I could make all sort of logical fallacies by saying "if this" especially adding "and"(s) to it. IF Star Wars is a true(with inaccuracies) story THEN .... I could make all sorts of conclusions. Add other far fetched assumptions and the possibilities are endless.
 

GermanZepp

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This nonsense is out of control.
Spongebob-Ight-Imma-Head-Out.jpg
 
What if that new leaked benchmark is actually a PS5 chip. ES.

13TF RDNA would be a close match for that score... and that 4800 CPU. Hmm
 
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Proelite

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Fuck me this guy looks legit too
How did Ms not get Cerny


Ram for PS5 looked spot on.

Called the 9TF 7 months ago...

🤔

On the topic of specs.

RuthenicCookie said last year PS5 was aiming for $499 with a $100 loss. Remember he was the guy who leaked Sony not being at E3.
Apenello believes that 9TF, 16GB ram, SSD is $399 break-even. This is not disputed.

Food for thought.
 
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semicool

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I fully admit that any of my assumptions might be wrong, but they are the most solid information we have. I am just reconciling them.

I think that is ok in speculation thread.

edit: how would you reconcile them?
I'd also add that I'd first believe Sony has an MCM GPU, previously non existing produced tech in a GPU, with some type of AMD infinity Fabric before I'd believe in a dual GPU like on the traditional sense, but a 72 dual would be hard to believe with a larger GPU makes more sense.
 
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Im thinking the talk about twin GPUs is correct, so that would give us 72 Cu's. I think the 2.0ghz speed is correct, as Cerny would have developed a new way to cool it.
So by my count it will be 4608 (72 * 64) * 2 * 2000 = 18.5tflops.
With ps4 pro design yeah thats why kinda am team 13.5z. Heard lower clock tho and more disabled cus . Hoping xbox can make up margin with patented vrs but cerny probably got that down too. Man this L is gonna burn. Maybe i should just delete Twitter smh
 
I'd also add that I'd first believe Sony has an MCM GPU, previously non existing produced tech in a GPU, with some type of AMD infinity Fabric before I'd believe in a dual GPU like on the traditional sense, but a 72 dual would be hard to believe with a larger GPU makes more sense.
Its hard to tell. Sony pretty much developed the Navi architecture for AMD, so they may also be able to get access to RDNA 3 feature sets.
 

Bryank75

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Ram for PS5 looked spot on.

Called the 9TF 7 months ago...

🤔

On the topic of specs.

RuthenicCookie said last year PS5 was aiming for $499 with a $100 loss. Remember he was the guy who leaked Sony not being at E3.
Apenello believes that 9TF, 16GB ram, SSD is $399 break-even. This is not disputed.

Food for thought.
So 2 PS5 SKUS????
 
With ps4 pro design yeah thats why kinda am team 13.5z. Heard lower clock tho and more disabled cus . Hoping xbox can make up margin with patented vrs but cerny probably got that down too. Man this L is gonna burn. Maybe i should just delete Twitter smh
With the API Sony will be using, it's going to be able to get to the bare metal of the GPU as well, and as we know DX 12 is just bloatware, so MS is also going to be behind on that.
 
Ram for PS5 looked spot on.

Called the 9TF 7 months ago...

🤔

On the topic of specs.

RuthenicCookie said last year PS5 was aiming for $499 with a $100 loss. Remember he was the guy who leaked Sony not being at E3.
Apenello believes that 9TF, 16GB ram, SSD is $399 break-even. This is not disputed.

Food for thought.

If he's right then that confirms my own suspicions that a 2019 launch was definitely planned, and stuff happened behind the scenes causing a delay. I think something between Layden and Ryan is a big part of that.

It would also confirm the Github data leaks, but in a sense that the chips being tested were part of an older design (the $399 target for 2019 launch). And it'd also confirm that one of the two GPUs tied to PS5 was added later on.

If plans were changed because they somehow got access to specs for Scarlet/XSX then it'd also mean Sony did a U-turn as a strong reaction to MS, and there may've been other plans for the 2019 PS5 launch which had to be scrapped and set them back to the drawing board. Which is pretty uncharacteristic of them tbh (then again, they're only just now getting a new sales/marketing lead for PS division which is also uncharacteristic this close to a system launch).

....that of course is depending on if that user is who they claim to be.
 

Aceofspades

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You guys need to drop the act, your spreading of false info is tiring and obvious. , what is your end game here? Are you trying to get everyone unrealistically hyped up for PS5 just to be disappointed once revealed? What a childish behavior 🤣

One is pushing the dual Gpus lol, timdogg is flipping sides announcing Sony as victor, can't you guys be more obvious?

I can guarantee thats a PM plot we are witnessing here, a mod can verify that . What a bunch of sorry ass people 🤣
 

Koopatrol

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Ram for PS5 looked spot on.

Called the 9TF 7 months ago...

🤔

On the topic of specs.

RuthenicCookie said last year PS5 was aiming for $499 with a $100 loss. Remember he was the guy who leaked Sony not being at E3.
Apenello believes that 9TF, 16GB ram, SSD is $399 break-even. This is not disputed.

Food for thought.

He did not call 9TF 7 months ago. The comment was edited. Just view the Google cache here . You may need to inspect element and search for his name on the cache page because the scrolling is dumb. But the cache is 2 months old since it says the comment is from 5 months ago when you click the link.

If you can't find his original comment, this is an image of it:

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Proelite Proelite , XcloudTimdog XcloudTimdog , Reindeer Reindeer , Insane Metal Insane Metal Rightisright Rightisright

You guys need to drop the act, your spreading of false info is tiring and obvious. , what is your end game here? Are you trying to get everyone unrealistically hyped up for PS5 just to be disappointed once revealed? What a childish behavior 🤣

One is pushing the dual Gpus lol, timdogg is flipping sides announcing Sony as victor, can't you guys be more obvious?

I can guarantee thats a PM plot we are witnessing here, a mod can verify that . What a bunch of sorry ass people 🤣
Typical Xbox fanboy.
Ignore.
 
Proelite Proelite , XcloudTimdog XcloudTimdog , Reindeer Reindeer , Insane Metal Insane Metal Rightisright Rightisright

You guys need to drop the act, your spreading of false info is tiring and obvious. , what is your end game here? Are you trying to get everyone unrealistically hyped up for PS5 just to be disappointed once revealed? What a childish behavior 🤣

One is pushing the dual Gpus lol, timdogg is flipping sides announcing Sony as victor, can't you guys be more obvious?

I can guarantee thats a PM plot we are witnessing here, a mod can verify that . What a bunch of sorry ass people 🤣
WTF?
I thought you said someone sent you some specs
Specs? Absolutely not... I wish though, if anyone has them :messenger_beaming: :pie_roffles:
 
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Proelite

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Proelite Proelite , XcloudTimdog XcloudTimdog , Reindeer Reindeer , Insane Metal Insane Metal Rightisright Rightisright

You guys need to drop the act, your spreading of false info is tiring and obvious. , what is your end game here? Are you trying to get everyone unrealistically hyped up for PS5 just to be disappointed once revealed? What a childish behavior 🤣

One is pushing the dual Gpus lol, timdogg is flipping sides announcing Sony as victor, can't you guys be more obvious?

I can guarantee thats a PM plot we are witnessing here, a mod can verify that . What a bunch of sorry ass people 🤣

It's neither of ours.

I tried making an alt as an experiment today, and the mods were on it right away.

You do realize that an admin need to approve your account and your first post too right?

The alt I was creating as an experiment was caught immediately. They can tell by IP / MAC address.

Yesterday I was trolling a fake insider. Even my comments was obviously sarcastic in nature.

No one is making successful alt accounts.

If I tell people here straight up what I know: I'm fake.

If I tell people what they want to hear: I'm a troll.

I've survived 3 generations on this forum. I wouldn't have if I am someone who creates conspiracies.
 
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onQ123

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Maybe the 40CU is a conventional GPU while they have a equal size GPU with 18CUs plus ray tracing hardware stacked on top of it or next to it,


smaller chips are cheaper so maybe these 2 chips would be cheaper than a 56CU GPU with ray tracing hardware
 

gaming_noob

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You guys need to drop the act, your spreading of false info is tiring and obvious. , what is your end game here? Are you trying to get everyone unrealistically hyped up for PS5 just to be disappointed once revealed? What a childish behavior 🤣

One is pushing the dual Gpus lol, timdogg is flipping sides announcing Sony as victor, can't you guys be more obvious?

I can guarantee thats a PM plot we are witnessing here, a mod can verify that . What a bunch of sorry ass people 🤣

Maybe you’d get pats on the back from REEEsetera for this effort.
 

Disco_

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Maybe the 40CU is a conventional GPU while they have a equal size GPU with 18CUs plus ray tracing hardware stacked on top of it or next to it,


smaller chips are cheaper so maybe these 2 chips would be cheaper than a 56CU GPU with ray tracing hardware
According to Panello, I think it was him, it doesn't matter what's on the chip, the size of the wafer and how many working chips you can get off a wafer dictates cost. So if the 40cu chip and the 18cu chip average out to be less than 1/2 the 56cu chip while having equal or better yields, sure.
 
Maybe the 40CU is a conventional GPU while they have a equal size GPU with 18CUs plus ray tracing hardware stacked on top of it or next to it,


smaller chips are cheaper so maybe these 2 chips would be cheaper than a 56CU GPU with ray tracing hardware
I'm curious about infinity fabric with multi chip that Amd is developing. Would Sony go that route? There are rumors of Sony not doing APU but multi chip and doing 3D ram HBM on interposer.

Plus this rumors about $499 with $100 loss and pachter saying the specs he heard sounded $1000 to him.
 

Thedtrain

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You guys need to drop the act, your spreading of false info is tiring and obvious. , what is your end game here? Are you trying to get everyone unrealistically hyped up for PS5 just to be disappointed once revealed? What a childish behavior 🤣

One is pushing the dual Gpus lol, timdogg is flipping sides announcing Sony as victor, can't you guys be more obvious?

I can guarantee thats a PM plot we are witnessing here, a mod can verify that . What a bunch of sorry ass people 🤣
lol let them have their fun. It’s kinda entertaining since we have nothing new
 

Proelite

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According to Panello, I think it was him, it doesn't matter what's on the chip, the size of the wafer and how many working chips you can get off a wafer dictates cost. So if the 40cu chip and the 18cu chip average out to be less than 1/2 the 56cu chip while having equal or better yields, sure.

Something like Xenos is maybe possible. APU + RT daughter die on MCM. That would explain the lack of RT results in the GitHub leak.

They'll need some Edram or even better Esram in the daughter die to mitigate latency issues.

A 300mm APU with 150mm daughter die would be way cheaper to fab than a 450mm monolithic APU.
 

Reindeer

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You guys need to drop the act, your spreading of false info is tiring and obvious. , what is your end game here? Are you trying to get everyone unrealistically hyped up for PS5 just to be disappointed once revealed? What a childish behavior 🤣

One is pushing the dual Gpus lol, timdogg is flipping sides announcing Sony as victor, can't you guys be more obvious?

I can guarantee thats a PM plot we are witnessing here, a mod can verify that . What a bunch of sorry ass people 🤣

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