any system above 8TF is powerful system
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trancefreak64
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That was a really good read. A lot of concerns that us next generation console folks have been discussing are in that article.“The ongoing coronavirus outbreak has had no impact so far on preparations for PlayStation 5 production, they said. The company has yet to decided how many PlayStation 5 units it will make in the first year, they added.”
Finally somewhat good C-Vírus related news.
It appears that there will be some big decisions to have to be made on pricing and manufacturing unit quantities, especially with the coronavirus in the middle of the next generation console release.
XcloudTimdog
Banned
Yep sounds like 2.0 / 9.2 based on github . Xbox doesnt have kinect this time. I also put that up because my info that i poSted was just confirmed by zhuge. Xbox has more expensive box to build. Sony is def waiting to see what xbox doesAnd also said very powerful chip inside so means nothing yet
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Agnostic2020
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Depends who we ask but in today gpu market no . 8tf is average gpu
CyberPanda
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The bloomberg article also talked about ps4 games that will also be on ps5. Cross gen confirmed for both.
Agnostic2020
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No doesn’t have Kinect but might have f64 dedicated part for server blades ? Who know . We ll know soon enough in less than 2 months
CyberPanda
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Wow
Agnostic2020
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Ofcourse but ps5 will have 2 to 3 exclusives now top of the cross generation games which make pandas cry usually . No ?
Pretty sure Xbox One was more expensive to make without including kinect. Mostly due to the SoC being bigger due to the ESRAM.
The DeanBeat: The Xbox One cost $471 to make. The PS4 costs $381. And why this matters in the long run
The battle between the Microsoft Xbox One and the Sony PlayStation 4 is well under way. Actual sales for the first selling season won’t be announced for a while. And it probably won’t be until next year until we find out which console is really winning the next-generation sales competition. But...
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$471 including Kinect, so $396 for Xbox One vs $381 for PS4.
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LED Guy?
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Oh so it looks like the PlayStation 5’s BOM is like the Xbox Series X, so it means it’ll be as powerful as Xbox Series X which puts both at $500 AT MINIMUM, and remember, Xbox One had higher BOM and it was way weaker than PS4, it didn’t even have GDDR5 RAM even and let’s not forget about the GPU difference between them, this explains that PS5 will have faster SSD and the same specs in the other components.
Final predictions:
PS5 and Xbox Series X = 12 TF Navi RDNA GPUs, 8 cores and 16 threads Zen 2 CPUs, very fast NVMe SSDs and 16GB GDDR6 with very high bandwidth.
Very powerful consoles GODDAMN!!
Final predictions:
PS5 and Xbox Series X = 12 TF Navi RDNA GPUs, 8 cores and 16 threads Zen 2 CPUs, very fast NVMe SSDs and 16GB GDDR6 with very high bandwidth.
Very powerful consoles GODDAMN!!
trancefreak64
Banned
Mid range console from Microsoft will be perfect for my younger kids that want the new xbox, should be a great value for my wallet.
I will definitely buy, purchase both high end consoles for my gaming pleasure. This is going to be a very interesting year for gamers, and I am pretty hyped about it.
Koopatrol
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Not sure if serious. Cross gen games are obvious and have always been a thing. The difference is that PS5 will supposedly have only PS5 exclusives at launch, unlike the Xbox.
demigod
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Wrong, you really don’t know anything about Sony. All their next gen games are next gen. PS5 owners will enjoy next gen first party games. XSX fans will enjoy cross gen games.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
PS5 for $549 - XSX for $599
CyberPanda
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I think both will be 499 or 550, or heck if they are greedy then 599.
Sinthor
Gold Member
I don't think that means anything real about 'crossgen games.' The key is it says PS4 games that will be on PS5....NOT PS5 games that will be on PS4 as well. So that sounds like BC to me. Nothing more you can really take from that statement. Whether or not the new Xbox will have titles for it specifically that still play on earlier Xbox's...we'll have to see.
XcloudTimdog
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Yeah esram too but none of that now. So xbox higher BOM estimated 10~70 by zhuge. Less money spent on cooling vs sony , like i said thats why form factors dont wanna be shown. Its all adding up. Github 9.2 we shall see . Wow love itPretty sure Xbox One was more expensive to make without including kinect. Mostly due to the SoC being bigger due to the ESRAM.
The DeanBeat: The Xbox One cost $471 to make. The PS4 costs $381. And why this matters in the long run
The battle between the Microsoft Xbox One and the Sony PlayStation 4 is well under way. Actual sales for the first selling season won’t be announced for a while. And it probably won’t be until next year until we find out which console is really winning the next-generation sales competition. But...
$471 including Kinect, so $396 for Xbox One vs $381 for PS4.
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Felessan
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More expensive doesn't mean better. Based on rumours Xbox will have more expensive and slower SSD controller, just because they went with off-the shelf part, that has many redundacies not needed in console. And Sony design their own, scapping parts that are not needed, making and faster and cheaper (more R&D costs though)
Cross-game was always a thing, especially 3rd party games. It's just ps5 will have proper next-gen games.
Mod of War xbox insides more than sonys. Bloomberg estimates 450 for Sony.
Why are you tagging me in this?
XcloudTimdog
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Sony def wait and see on price . If its same price and huge gap like 12-9, that be something else.
Koopatrol
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Good point. I was thinking mostly third party, since they will support both generations for quite some time. As far as PS4 exclusives go, it's likely that most of those will be BC. Sony can possibly port some stuff like TLoU 2, Ghost of Tsushima, Dreams, etc., but hopefully those would just get performance patches.
Agnostic2020
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Smoke6
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2 things I’m taking from this article...
1, I call bullshit and is a tactic to force MS‘s hand at a full on reveal
2. I read the article and they mentioned multiple chips to be cooled with their expensive cooling system!
So that means a dual chip configuration and a price point of $499
day fucking 1!!!!
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XcloudTimdog
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I dm you too. Just sharing when my info that I posted gets verified, i will let you know. Since you seem to only vet Sony insiders
trancefreak64
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That is close to what I expected but below $600USD.,
Perhaps both microsofts, and Sonys consoles both sell at the same price as well.
In my opinion, I think this console generation will be between 6 to 7 years long. Microsoft and Sony will be providing high end consoles from my perspective with their main focus on revenue based services.
This is what I am interpreting from the Bloomberg article.
XcloudTimdog
Banned
No thats real 1
Agnostic2020
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XcloudTimdog
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Was i right or wrong? Also its 520. Xbox saved money on that form factor. BOLD and BIGHe is so happy ps5 is 450 and xsx 460 to 510 he doesn’t know what to do anymore
XcloudTimdog
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Thats not a attack? Thats just informing him . Dont be mad that i was correct. Much more to be correct too about if Im not unjustly banned. Lets seeOh nice another warrior attack on the mods . Keep it classy as always
CyberPanda
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Yea cross gen
Agnostic2020
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Jason schrier just said ps5 has minimum 5 exclusives(that he is aware of, could be more ) in first year 
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No, don't think I've had any communication with him.
bitbydeath
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XcloudTimdog
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Yeah also third party will do as they want. Gonna take little awhile just like last gen with cross gen etc.
CyberPanda
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XcloudTimdog
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I will talk now if you like. Mod of war i sent stuff too and he promised he never send out.
Agnostic2020
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Correct ? U r still not correct on anything .xbox has gotten more expensive weaker ssd and so many other things . We wait and see if 9 tf is correct or not . Then U can brag
That’s rather odd. I sent him the email and told him to DM you way back when, and he claims he was going to send it over.
Strange.
Alright.
Reindeer
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And I remember someone arguing here that next gen consoles gonna be way more expensive to build because Xbox One launched at 499 two years ago, lol. Anything beyond 500 loses mass market appeal. Sony should just go for 449 if their console only costs 450 to build, the loss will be minimal and the cheaper price (assuming Series X is 500) will be appealing to many and might sway some undecided casuals.
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XcloudTimdog
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I said xbox insides were more expensive than Ps5.
There's been cross generation games from third parties since I can remember... happened with PS3 and PS4. This does not indicate PlayStation World Wide Studios is doing what Xbox Games Studios is doing by doing cross generation first party games. Based on the past I think we know how that is going to go.
Sinthor
Gold Member
ditto. You think if there's $50 cost difference between boxes that that's a difference of 8-9TF to 12+? lol. Well, we will see...but that doesn't seem very likely. Ignoring that Sony also has usually had less cost for the hardware is unwise as well, until we see how everything shakes out.
XcloudTimdog
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I will gladly talk to him fromThat’s rather odd. I sent him the email and told him to DM you way back when, and he claims he was going to send it over.
Strange.
Now on
Agnostic2020
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If u believed xsx is 12 and ps5 9, then is that really an insider info ? Come on man
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