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Last warning for console wars
I’d believe it, if you were talking about the boosted PSVR devkit vs XSX...this is the current dev kit numbers imo![]()
I’d believe it, if you were talking about the boosted PSVR devkit vs XSX...this is the current dev kit numbers imo![]()
I never owned those systems but I remember when there were a ton of random consoles on the market in 1994 for a range of insane prices.
None of them were successful, leading to today where they would be crazy to even consider a system at 699.
PS3 at 599 was too much.
Edit: To be clear, I personally really don't care what it's priced and have no interest in an Xbox anyway. I'm just saying I think this prediction is impossible.
lol love the fact that you pretend to be neutral and you get offended when you hear people have no interest in xbox or might think PS5 can edge out xsx. why is that? be neutral , who cares which one comes on top if they are that close anywaysNo interest in Xbox? I see how it is. I understand now.
Don’t worry, Sony surely be delivering the cheaper hardware.![]()
there is no such a thing as boosted PSVR devkit. Dev kit 2 just came out to third parties and first parties received Devkit 3 for PS5 this month. for XSX, devs received devkit 3 in the last month.I’d believe it, if you were talking about the boosted PSVR devkit vs XSX...
lol love the fact that you pretend to be neutral and you get offended when you hear people have no interest in xbox or might think PS5 can edge out xsx. why is that? be neutral , who cares which one comes on top if they are that close anyways
What is devkit 3 for XSX? They have only had one devkit so far, the one they shipped starting in November. Before that was target specs.there is no such a thing as boosted PSVR devkit. Dev kit 2 just came out to third parties and first parties received Devkit 3 for PS5 this month. for XSX, devs received devkit 3 in the last month.
"boosted PSVR dev kit" doesn't exist.sorry
no 3rd one just went out few weeks back and it has apparently boosted clocks to bring GPU power to 12.4 TFWhat is devkit 3 for XSX? They have only had one devkit so far, the one they shipped starting in November. Before that was target specs.
My prediction for final Specs: (It will be fun to get back and see how wrong I am)
Anaconda:
CPU: 8c/16t Zen 2 @ 3.4 8MB L3
GPU: Custom RDNA 56 (active) CU @1.7Ghz , 12.1 TF
RT: Hardware accelerated
Memory (total): 24GB @ 560 GB/s GDDR6
SSD: PCIe 4.0
Price: $499
PS5
CPU: 8c/16t Zen 2 @ 3.2 GHz, 8 MB L3
GPU: Custom RDNA 52 (active) CU @1.9Ghz , 12.6 TF
RT: Hardware accelerated
Memory (total): 24GB @ 576 GB/s GDDR6
SSD: PCIe 4.0
Price: $499
Lockhart:
(I DONT GIVE A ****) about Lockhart
My dream (PS5)
CPU: 8c/16t Zen 2 @ 3.2 GHz, 8 MB L3
GPU: Custom RDNA 56 (active) [email protected], 14.3 TF
RT: Hardware accelerated
Memory (total): 20GB HBM2 @ +1 TB/s 4GB(DDR3 for OS)
SSD: PCIe 4.0
Price: $499
Edit: Updated Dec 16th, added clocks to my prediction.
this is true but this is for the current dev kit received recently for XSX . not the old one. current one is 12.4 TF vs 12.3 TF of dev kit 2 for PS5. keep in mind this is what i heard so it might be completely bsActually, the PS5 dev kits are currently still a bit ahead in terms of final, depending on team. SX kits are older but currently a bit quicker, again depending on team.
So the current line is the SX is faster, by a smidge, that won’t matter in the scheme of things.
You can see that in all the current sources, as well as my own that I know of.
But the important thing is they are so close it won’t matter.
This is what I expect from both consoles to be honest, and that's according to many inside information and what has been pointing towards, but this is just a prediction after all.
same article about BOM where it mentioned that investors want sony to take loss to match the price of XSX? you are comparing BloomB with zhuge tweet which doesnt make sense as 2 different source will have two different estimate on BOM. same BB source mentions sony has to take loss to price match XSX.What does neutrality have to do with reality? Sony is going to make cheaper hardware, and we’ve supposedly seen the BOM.
I still prefer my Xbox One X and the Xbox controller, but that aside we all know that Microsoft needs the more powerful hardware or they’re going to lose people like me that expect the best hardware as their primary platform.
I’m sure you’ll agree:
Microsoft has an uphill battle already, If Sony has the most powerful console AT LAUNCH it’s lights out for Xbox.
They can’t fail this launch and hope for another successful refresh.
this is true but this is for the current dev kit received recently for XSX . not the old one. current one is 12.4 TF vs 12.3 TF of dev kit 2 for PS5. keep in mind this is what i heard so it might be completely bs![]()
there is no such a thing as boosted PSVR devkit. Dev kit 2 just came out to third parties and first parties received Devkit 3 for PS5 this month. for XSX, devs received devkit 3 in the last month.
"boosted PSVR dev kit" doesn't exist.sorry
Then you were played, because that's simply not the case.no 3rd one just went out few weeks back and it has apparently boosted clocks to bring GPU power to 12.4 TF
What is devkit 3 for XSX? They have only had one devkit so far, the one they shipped starting in November. Before that was target specs.
Actually, the PS5 dev kits are currently still a bit ahead in terms of final, depending on team. SX kits are older but currently a bit quicker, again depending on team. (In plain English PS5 have more final dev kit than Xbox, but are behind in speed. SX still not even final dev kit, so make of that what you will).
So the current line is the SX is faster, by a smidge, that won’t matter in the scheme of things.
You can see that in all the current sources, as well as my own that I know of.
But the important thing is they are so close it won’t matter.
no 3rd one just went out few weeks back and it has apparently boosted clocks to bring GPU power to 12.4 TF
What is happening? 👁👁this is true but this is for the current dev kit received recently for XSX . not the old one. current one is 12.4 TF vs 12.3 TF of dev kit 2 for PS5. keep in mind this is what i heard so it might be completely bs![]()
Then you were played, because that's simply not the case.
So back in early December barely anybody has devkit v1, yet in early February third parties have access to devkit v3? That's not even possible with shipping times, let alone the required hardware changes.
So Timmy’s mom is buying a Nintendo Switch. Nothing new.reality: whoever prices the machine the lowest wins. little Timmy's mom doesn't care about 14 sec faster load times, 200 more pixels, some obscure Japanese game 12 people love, chapter 3 dips 2 frames for 3.2 seconds etc.... she just cares that Timmy's gets the fuck out of her face and is content playing fortnite.
woot woot can't wait
once its said done less than 8% imo but thats not set in stone as there are some room for clock changesWhat is happening? 👁👁
O’dium, what’s a smidge? Lol
I’m riding the XSX is more powerful train, I think a bit more significant than a “smidge”. Probably 15%+
i heard that PS5 dev kit for 3rd party is recently on dev kit 2 and they expect to receive dev kit 3 mid june(granted none of them know anything about devkit3 ). as for other things yea its all possiblePlaystation are currently on the later revision, and talk of the town is that it’s near final and won’t be getting any major changes, if at all. It’s behind spec wise compared to the SX, who are way behind in terms of getting updated units out, but the new units coming or in limited hands are ahead in spec, and may even be clocked higher going forward.
Source: people with these things on their desk, a few weeks ago. Plus this is no different to what all the current insiders are saying either.
So relax. Yes, I would put money on the SX being ahead, by a small margin that won’t matter to anything or anybody. But it won’t matter anyway.
Dude, you can't just change devkits on a monthly basis. To replace a devkit takes a chip redesign. It happens after four to five months at best (can only talk about original Xbox devkits back in the day, because that's the only thing I have worked on regarding consoles). The SDKs update more frequently, about once a month, but they don't change the available hardware power. Devkits include mass produced chips and take at least four weeks from production to delivery. Whoever told you that Xbox Series X is on devkit 3 is wrong, plain and simple, it's physically impossible. And prohibitively expensive if one were to do such a thing.versions keep changing by time regardless how many get them. version 1 could have been only first parties.version 2 could have been first and few third parties. version 3 everyone and this month
What is happening? 👁👁
O’dium, what’s a smidge? Lol
I’m riding the XSX is more powerful train, I think a bit more significant than a “smidge”. Probably 15%+
My apologies, was joking. I meant clarification on the smidge.A smidge is a uk term, means a small amount, barely anything. I’m talking expect less than 15% even, we are talking 10% I would imagine.
My apologies, was joking. I meant clarification on the smidge.
Maybe you’re right. I’m ducking out of threads tonight as I’m sure I’m upsetting everyone by being too chatty today.
My thoughts: I’d prefer a console (PS5 or XSX) noticeably Better than the other as I’d prefer to buy one console. I’m always strapped for cash during the holiday season.
PS5 - 10TF (OR slightly less) with 16gb ram, 500gb ssd - $449.
Xbox Series X - 20TF (probably way more), 64gb ram, 2TB ssd, all at a price of 199 buckeroonies. Calling it now.
Great, you made me hungry.D darkinstinct i have to be careful with wording here because I don’t want to appear to know more than I do. It’s no secret my circles overlap with a few friends who are in certain situations. Some of them may work for McDonald’s. Some of them may work for Burger King. Some of them may work for both. You know, burgers and stuff. But let’s just say that one persons green burger? It’s not cooked yet. It’s not even close to cooked. And his team are a bit, well, behind, in terms of cooking utensils. Because this person? He’s actually very close to the people at green Burger King, you know? You would expect him to have the best burger, but even he has old ones.
So it’s really funny when I see people say MS are only ahead in dev kit speed because their dev kits are more mature. Sadly... no. That’s not the case. Even for some of the big boys, even STILL. But the couple of lads that have access to both burgers? They still say one is way further along in cooking, but still a smidge behind in speed.
But this is all shit that comes up in chatting anyway, and as i said, it even matches current insider rumbling. So it’s not exactly new info, lol.
But hey things change, you don’t know what’s around the corner...
Can only speak for myself, I took what Jez Corden heard regarding the SSD as fact (he said he doesn't believe the recent 4Chan leak of 3.8 GB/s because what he has been told is much slower than that and comes from trustworthy sources, 2 GB/s is what he was told) and gave PS5 specs that are beating the fastest PCIe 3 SSD on PC back in April 2019 (based on Cerny "faster than anything available on PC today").D darkinstinct thats not *always* true. Sometimes you get a little bit more memory, maybe a little overhead, for obvious reasons. But spec sheet wise, targets etc, the above I posted seems to follow final goals.
The one thing I have noticed in this thread is the complete random guessing nature of SSD spec. Like some of you really are low balling the speed for one side... odd that...![]()
At least concerning Microsoft, devkits have been identical aside from just 2x the memory more than once.D darkinstinct thats not *always* true. Sometimes you get a little bit more memory, maybe a little overhead, for obvious reasons. But spec sheet wise, targets etc, the above I posted seems to follow final goals.
The one thing I have noticed in this thread is the complete random guessing nature of SSD spec. Like some of you really are low balling the speed for one side... odd that...![]()
Microsoft has an uphill battle already, If Sony has the most powerful console AT LAUNCH it’s lights out for Xbox.
They can’t fail this launch
PS5 can be the best console in the world in part because Microsoft will shoot themselves in the foot, UI so bad etc. you can automatically right them off. I still believe in PS5 but all they're giving us is backwards compatibility, I don't like the mindset so far with the console, they, haven't managed to show anything it may be because they're trying to figure out how to end the PS4 but it's impossible to feel hyped for the console when their's virtually nothing known about it months before release.
AMDWhat type of GPU do you have?