DeepEnigma
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jsig212james
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I started out that way because I always treat people with respect, but after realizing you've been lying not only to me, but to all these people on this forum, that shit went away quickly. You've lied about all of the so-called "exclusives" that would be coming to Microsoft, you've lied about that "trailer" you saw, and you've probably been lying about the next-gen console information, and just happened to get lucky with a couple numbers.
I didn't want to come on here and automatically start jumping down your throat, so I tried to give you a reason to explain yourself, and even provided evidence that your claims were falsified, yet you still haven't cleared any of them up.
Fatal Enigma
Member
yikes
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Who are these people?
VanSiriusGabriel
Member
Here folks, exactly this. We don't know a hot shit about this two (even if at least one is vetted) yet now we have this "mine is bigger" discussion that basically goes:
"You're wrong"
"No, you're so wrong"
"Nono, you're SO SO WRONG"
"Nonono, YOU'RE SO SO SO WROOONG".
Boi, talking here about some SUPPOSED lies from Osiris brings nothing to the table, you can't prove anything, Osiris can prove things only to the mods because infos are private, so maybe discuss it in private. I agree this is a speculation topic and speculate it's ok, but drama it's just silly.
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Fake
Member
Normal people. Usual stuff this guy like to bring here idk why. Almost the same discussion we have here.
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Agnostic2020
Member
Did you expect anything else from him ? He is something else
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The Mad Draklor
Member
Correction. There is a "mine is bigger" side and then, there is a "both are roughly the same" side.
jsig212james
Banned
My website has literally written entire articles that leak everything from movies to TV to games. We're legitimate. I typed out a detailed breakdown of every WB studio and partnership and what games they're working on to give
OsirisBlack
a chance to clarify himself, but he failed to do so.Three of those games he listed as exclusives were debunked by some of the most legitimate journalists in the industry. You guys don't see a problem with that? You'd rather just be fed lies?
Fatal Enigma
Member
from what I've seen, true, normal people but with a very high degree of understanding tech development
VanSiriusGabriel
Member
I was talking about "I'm right" and "no, I'm right" thing, not specific position about consoles.
yikes
We see you.
You might want to dial it back on the instigating and not so subtle trolling.
Xdrive05
Member
Is the following an accurate representation of where we stand right now?
Looks like the most pessimistic guess on PS5 GPU is 36 CUs at, what, 8TF, allowing for clocks reduction to keep thermals very safely in check. If Sony can take a bath at $399 with that relatively meagerly spec’d machine then they have market advantage until Lockhart becomes a thing.
If Sony “needs” to enter at $500 then they better have a narrative that can downplay that performance gap, or else close it somewhat with more CUs or screaming clocks.
That’s worst case scenario. Hopefully they are using a newer chip design that is similar if they’re going after the same price point.
Looks like the most pessimistic guess on PS5 GPU is 36 CUs at, what, 8TF, allowing for clocks reduction to keep thermals very safely in check. If Sony can take a bath at $399 with that relatively meagerly spec’d machine then they have market advantage until Lockhart becomes a thing.
If Sony “needs” to enter at $500 then they better have a narrative that can downplay that performance gap, or else close it somewhat with more CUs or screaming clocks.
That’s worst case scenario. Hopefully they are using a newer chip design that is similar if they’re going after the same price point.
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CrustyBritches
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Tera means trillion. FLOPS is Floating Point Operations Per Second. The formula for FLOPS is simply "Shaders * # of Ops per cycle * core clock speed". To get the number of shaders starting from CU count, just multiply CUs * 64(# of shaders per CU).
Example:
Regardless, TFLOPS is simply a measurement of trillions of floating point operations per second, and not directly tied to gaming performance. Lets take a look at Navi 10 5700XT(40CU, ~1.8GHz core, ~9.2TF) vs Vega 64(64CU, ~1.5GHz core, ~12.2TF) in actual gaming benchmarks:
In the 3 Guru3D benchmarks, 5700XT has a ~19% increase in performance, despite Vega 64 have a ~32% increase in TLFOPS over the 5700XT. The 4th bench listed is PCGH's 20-game average performance chart, showing 5700XT with a 13.5% advantage over the Vega 64. In gaming, a 9.2TF RDNA console is right on the brink of being twice as powerful as a Xbox One X, not to mention RT capabilities on top and a faster CPU and HDD/SSD by far.
PCGH:
CyberPanda
Banned
Xbox Series Xのスペック詳細ほか新情報が公開：RTN 02/26 2020 youtu.be/X9IVlRrSHI8 より
6:00〜でPS5は9.2tflops
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Fake
Member
Oh yes, resetera exclusive high degree of understanding tech people. You know we have the same people here, on this thread, speaking the same subject right?
VanSiriusGabriel
Member
Man, I don't know who you are because you have a nick. If you have credibility show it, if you have sources contact the mods, but if you can't show proof that Osiris is wrong ON THE SPECIFIC CASE just stop it. You may be right, but we just don't know, I don't fed on lies, you're just giving more shit to be fed with.My website has literally written entire articles that leak everything from movies to TV to games. We're legitimate. I typed out a detailed breakdown of every WB studio and partnership and what games they're working on to give
Three of those games he listed as exclusives were debunked by some of the most legitimate journalists in the industry. You guys don't see a problem with that? You'd rather just be fed lies?
OsirisBlack
Banned
Which is why I sent confirmation when I actually got to go hands on . Was it lucky to be dead on with the trailer release for Ghosts or With the XseX final form being done and revealed what a week later? It's posted on this site and before both things happened. Who could possibly be that lucky? Or Gamestop updating PS5 Info less than 24 hours after I said they would. Yep luck... /s No longer entertaining you but you will not be the first person on my ignore list.
jsig212james
Banned
Did you miss the part where I said I typed out a detailed list of every WB studio and partnership and what game they're working on? It's literally in this thread. And this is all pertaining to the supposed "Superman" game that
OsirisBlack
said was coming to next gen consoles.I also reached out to the mods. I told them I believed he was lying and could reasonably prove it to them, but they've yet to respond.
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pawel86ck
Banned
I remember people were laughing at him when VFXVeteran suggested sony wants to port their games to PC and today I'm reading interesting news:Did you expect anything else from him ? He is something else
So VFXVeteran obviously know something although I can see why sony fans hate him and will rather listen to Tommy Fake Fisher.
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Fatal Enigma
Member
I never indicated anything exclusive and only talked there. They are just very detailed in info. I dont see anyone talking what they are, it seems to be not acceptable
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jsig212james
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And yet people have no idea what this "confirmation" is that you sent. The trailer release for Ghosts and everything involving the XSX was already speculated upon before you gave your two cents.
Again, you have a chance to clear up the Superman and Killer Instinct situation, but you haven't yet. Both developers of both studios came out and said they weren't working on those games.
Rocksteady:
Killer Instinct: https://gamerant.com/killer-instinct-not-in-development/
Mr Moose
Member
Might be true, might not be.I remember people were laughing from VFXVeteran when he suggested sony wants to port their games to PC and today I'm reading interesting news:
So VFXVeteran obviously know something although I can see why sony fans hate him and will rather listen to Tommy Fake Fisher.
New viking Assassin's Creed Amazon listing confirmed fake
A Twitter user fesses up to making the fake Assassin's Creed Ragnarok game listings on Amazon.
www.tweaktown.com
Thanks
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VanSiriusGabriel
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It's irrelevant, all of this is just fragmenting the informations and the arguments. If Osiris told lies than I guess you should wait for the mods to evaluate both sides and then explain the whole situation in a single time. This is just messy.Did you miss the part where I said I typed out a detailed list of every WB studio and partnership and what game they're working on? It's literally in this thread. And this is all pertaining to the supposed "Superman" game that
I also reached out to the mods. I told them I believed he was lying and could reasonably prove it to them, but they've yet to respond.
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DeepEnigma
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Hellgardia
Member
People are overreacting way too much about this.
1088 pages surrounding guesses and accusing each other of lying.
1088 pages surrounding guesses and accusing each other of lying.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Thinking about Lockhart more, I’m thinking it is true but won’t be a launch system.
MS will see how SeX does at launch and decide whether to do Lockhart in 2021 or can it. If SeX sells lousy, Lockhart is a fall 2021 system for gamers wanting something $200 cheaper. If SeX sells well, no need for it.
MS will see how SeX does at launch and decide whether to do Lockhart in 2021 or can it. If SeX sells lousy, Lockhart is a fall 2021 system for gamers wanting something $200 cheaper. If SeX sells well, no need for it.
M-V2
Member
This thread has over 1000 pages and I dont remember their nicknames. I only remember certain details (for example one insider was even disagreeing with Tommy)
These fake insiders were simply making fun of people here, probably because there are losers and wanted to feel special for at least five minutes pretending to be a real insiders.
Sony will reveal PS5 "V" 14TF in 14 February ("V"alentines day) and shock everyone with amazing power. That's what one particular insider said, a true love story.
Now I will rather trust VFXVeteran info. He is verified, and his info is not something people could easily guess. VFXVeteran obviously like this site and i doubt he would post a lie just to be banned when sony will finally reveal conflicting info. IMO only real insider would make such a unexpected claim and real info is often surprising. Of course sony fans dont want to hear about 2 SKUs and 9TF console, so they attack VFXVeteran (one funny guy is even blocking everyone who even mention 9TF LOL
You believe in VFX because he says things that fit your narrative.
demigod
Member
I remember people were laughing from VFXVeteran when he suggested sony wants to port their games to PC and today I'm reading interesting news:
So VFXVeteran obviously know something although I can see why sony fans hate him and will rather listen to Tommy Fake Fisher.
You have it wrong to why Sony fans hating him. We hated him before the 12TF reveal and before the github leak. He claimed both consoles were 1080 GTX levels last year and anyone who thought it would go higher is delusional. You can't claim something, then after it's revealed change your info and come back to say "i told you so". That's what vfx does. Anyone with half an ounce of intelligence knows the guy's insider info is nothing but FUD.
jsig212james
Banned
Idk man something's up between the insiders here and the mods. I mean, after being wrong so many times, you would think they would either ban or take away insider status, but they don't. That should ring a bell.
NickFire
Member
I could go both ways there while trying to look at it from their (in my mind) perspective. Ultimately though, if they have capacity to launch both, I think they'd want as many sales right out of the gate as possible. Both for momentum and software / service revenue.
01011001
Banned
I think the plan is more tied to the One and One X. the plan is to release all first party games on both One and Series X (third parties do that anyways during generational shifts), and by the time the One support will stop they will have a cheap upgrade system with Lockhart for people that only want/need 1080p
early adopters are almost always enthusiasts anyways and enthusiasts are willing to spend more money. so people will be supported with new games on Xbox One until Lockhart is on the market.
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The Mad Draklor
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This problem applies to a lot of people on this thread on both sides. They already have an outcome in their minds that they want to happen. And then, when they see the slightest hints, whether they be true or not, that favors their desired outcome, they take the entire mile rather than taking it with a grain of salt.
Farrell55
Banned
This blue guy lost his mind long Time agoBlue's insider when it comes to PS5 is VFX lol.
NickFire
Member
I really doubt insider status is limited to people with 100% first hand knowledge (that they can somehow share) of one or both upcoming system's specs. I would imagine it means they work in the industry to some degree, and I would further imagine that countless people work in the industry who hear things but don't get direct reports / access to them from Sony / MS.
Reindeer
Member
The fact that he quotes VFX as his reliable source for PS5 specs kinda says it all.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Guys guys guys, come on, this is important, stop being so childish. Can we be serious for a moment and get back to that cuckolding game?
Agnostic2020
Member
And he is one of the main insiders for Xbox era discord for ps5
ZywyPL
Banned
No matter how many times this gif is used, it never get's old. Well, here we go again:
pawel86ck
Banned
VFXVeteran obviously hate consoles and that's not my narrative. I have even disagreed with him a couple of times in this thread but go on say your absurd accusations just to fit your own narrative
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M-V2
Member
VFXVeteran obviously hate consoles and that's not my narrative. I have even disagreed with him a couple of times in this thread but go on say your absurd accusations just to fit your own narrative
I have read enough of your posts to know why do you believe in VFX, so I won't go further than that.
Agnostic2020
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Reindeer
Member
IGN are quoting it like it's a confirmed fact as are other publications so not that surprising that it's still part of convo.
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DrDamn
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It does seem very important for some to keep discussing, reinforcing, reiterating and re-posting links to others discussing it. There is nothing new in the discussion, no new insights or meaning. Just got to keep that narrative going.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
LED Guy?
Banned
Yeah man, it’s unbelievable that we are STILL discussing it, we are at a point where even if Sony and Mark Cerny themselves came out and said “PS5 is a 13 TF RDNA 2 console, not 9.2 TF”, you’ll still see people saying “nope, not gonna believe ya, it’s still 9.2 TF because GitHub”.
They're doing it now even, we are at a point where Mark Cerny is apparently a liar now for saying that PS5 has Hardware Ray Tracing in the GPU just like Nvidia’s RTX and Xbox Series X’s GPU because the GitHub leak said it has no Hardware Ray Tracing.
It’s so funny....and scary at times because of how some people are in denial.....but I’m just waiting now for Sony to confirm the GPU specs anytime now.
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LED Guy?
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DrDamn
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