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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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B_Boss

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You guys are going IN on Tommy Fisher Tommy Fisher 😂😂

It still pains me that he was a fake insider all along 😭😭😭

Wait, HG, he was? How do you know? (genuine question my man!) Also, excluding Tommy was fake, is it possible he himself was fooled and the issue is that he didn't take the time to verify if the image he provided to MoW was legit or not? I'm trying to see this incident logically. Either TF was fooled, he knowingly fooled us (or tried to fool some of us) or unknowingly/unwittingly "fooled us". What a Gaf day lol.
 

DaMonsta

Member
When klee said 12, Microsoft had said twice Xbox One X and Digital Foundry had released their first video explaining twice One X is less than 12 tf RDNA.
No, DF also said they verified with their sources it was 12 RDNA before Klee did.

At that point it’s an easy “prediction” to make.

No one said 12 before Microsoft themselves said double the X1X
 

01011001

Banned
Wait, HG, he was? How do you know? (genuine question my man!) Also, excluding Tommy was fake, is it possible he himself was fooled and the issue is that he didn't take the time to verify if the image he provided to MoW was legit or not? I'm trying to see this incident logically. Either TF was fooled, he knowingly fooled us (or tried to fool some of us) or unknowingly/unwittingly "fooled us". What a Gaf day lol.

wasn't the story that HE HIMSELF made this photos? so if he got fooled by that controller we can't trust him no matter if he deliberately lied or if he got tricked by such a bad fake prop
 
Guys stop being so petty about this whole insider stuff. Tommy has never been vetted, we let the hype in our brains drive our beliefs and kept paying attention to whatever he said even though we never had any reason to believe anything that was said. It's not GAFs or Mods fault.

Move on.
 

Shmunter

Member
That tommy catfisher guy claimed PS5 to be back compatible with all Sony consoles including ps3. Pretty much discarded him back then.

Its wise to disallow claims unless user is officially ticked off by management. Makes things more orderly and gives more credibility to the forum. I’m not certain how it works, but seemingly there may be a bit of leeway here?

No harm no foul, let the fun and laughter continue!
 

B_Boss

Member
wasn't the story that HE HIMSELF made this photos? so if he got fooled by that controller we can't trust him no matter if he deliberately lied or if he got tricked by such a bad fake prop

Gah, you know, I've been following this topic for ages and while I saw that suspected, I wasn't sure if that was the actual case. Such is the way these crazy nextgen days lol.
 

Dodkrake

Banned
While we're chasing our tails here, let's consider Sony's silence.

From a PR perspective, holding on to an announcement because "the XBox is much better" does not make sense. This would be a PR disaster, unless sony has something to bring to the table. In that sense, we can infer that:

A) Sony's marketing is for a major product is an intern with zero real world experience
B) Sony's console roughly the same and they are sticking to their timelines
C) The PS5 is not as powerful, but has other things that can make it better

I'm leaning to B. A) would simply be a gunshot to the brain, and is simply nonsensical, as they would already be in full damage containment. This would not imply revealing the PS5, but we would have seen tons of videos showing "the power of the PS5" without actually revealing said power. C) makes more sense, however since both platforms are running on the same "skeleton" and Sony has the upper hand in HW development, I would not be inclined to lean on it. It is, however, a stronger possibility.

At the end of the day, we're all eager and checking websites, twitter, retweetings Sony's posts and begging them to release some info. They have us in their hand, and that's exactly where they'd want to be if they believe their product to be superior.

From a marketing perspective, it makes total sense, and we are not seeing any signs of damage containment. We are seeing a company using social media and their stronger fanbase to do their job for them.

Just my 2 cents.
 

-Jay-Rod-

Banned
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Anyone taking their time to find and bother you outside of this forum is a complete and utter loser. I am really sorry man.
why not just tell them the truth...is it 11 12 or 13 cmon bro you know that I know that you know.....
 

Stillmatic

Member
Why do people get so worked up about insiders? It's like some people take what they share personally. If it's something that aligns with their thoughts then that's ok, but if it doesn't align with your personal thoughts, then you must try to discredit them or burn them at the stake.

Some people need to work on their critical thinking.

They're just sharing information they hear, read or see, take it or leave it. In time you'll we will hear whatever was said to be true of false. No big deal.

Enjoy the ride.
 
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jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
If we wanna be technical, Klee said a lil more than 12 after The Game Awards.


How would he know that? We can assume he didn't know how to calculate to get the tf number.
 
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No, DF also said they verified with their sources it was 12 RDNA before Klee did.

At that point it’s an easy “prediction” to make.

No one said 12 before Microsoft themselves said double the X1X

Nope.

Klee in August last year said that both console are Navi and double digit TF. Before DF.

Regarding DF, they never verified it until MS did it few weeks ago. DF ( Richard in this case ) after XSX reveal at TGA ( so, December ) asked MS is XSX 12 TF Navi or GCN ,but didn't get any confirmation on that. They assumed that it is TF 12 Navi because Phil Spencer said GPU performance is 2x of X1X. Here is the video.

 
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B_Boss

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Why do people get so worked up about insiders? It's like some people take what they share personally. If it's something that aligns with their thoughts then that's ok, but if it doesn't align with your personal thoughts, then you must try to discredit them or burn them at the stake.

Some people need to work on their critical thinking.

They're just sharing information they hear, read or see, take it or leave it. In time you'll we will hear whatever was said to be true of false. No big deal.

Enjoy the ride.

I think many invest more than just their minds into an unvetted (or even vetted) insider. They invest their emotions or hearts. I can’t really explain it any other way and that never needs to happen lol. I cautiously and patiently waited for MoW to reveal what he was able to.

When I saw the images, I thought, almost as knee jerk “nah...that can’t be just based on the famous devkit controller images alone” and MoW probably felt the same way.
 
Whew. I work the day away and it's that Community pizza meme in here.

I'm of the mindset that if somebody has the balls to go to a mod about something, it had best be legit, so that's why I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

The other insiders have given pertinent information and substantial information to the mods to lend credence to their status as "informants" for lack of a better term.


On an unrelated note, I have come to believe that this virus has had a PROFOUND impact on what Sony planned to do and maybe even plans to do.

I say that because my job currently has had business slow down due to our customers' response to the virus(we deal with some companies near where cases have shown up, as well as we also have imports from China that have ceased temporarily).
 

Batiman

Banned
Comparing a clown nobody to an Industry Professional.

Nice.
Ya because that’s what I was doing....
I’m saying there’s a lot of people in the gaming community that get shit wrong all the time. Just because someone is know in the gaming community doesn’t mean everything they say is right.
 

Mass Shift

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Hmmm, trust in the insiders seems to be eroding a bit.

Just a note to my fellow gamers who argue credibility.

Whatever standing they have is based on whatever credence WE lend them. We either uphold and defend or deny and discredit them. They really have no credibility without us.

I would also remind that none are perfect, and MOST aren't intentionally misinforming us. They're just the messengers, the heralds. But just like any Shakespearean tragedy, most are going to get it wrong, while others are going to just be dead wrong. Still fun watching it play out though.

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What is more hilarious is websites reporting news from here. Lol. Fake news everywhere. earlier only politcians used to lie. :lollipop_anxious_sweat:

This goes on to prove that the devkits are very limited and the leaks are very much controlled.
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
Klee also said 12tf RDNA, and no more GCN.

And ppl still debated about that until MS said RDNA 2.

Now....If that's really the case, that would mean PS5 is on RDNA 2 also. IIRC, RDNA 2 doesn't have GCN in it anymore.

I realize that's up for debate for PS5. Regardless of that, Klee got a few things right already.
 
I see so many people putting all their faith in other not vetted "insiders", like Osiris. I haven't seen anything to make me believe Osiris isn't as full of shit as TF was.

And Klee leaving when some of his claims started to not look correct is pretty fishy IMO. If you are a true insider, knowing what you claim is true, why would you ever need to leave a forum??
 
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I am not trolling anyone. I just want to know why verified people are questioned, while others who are unverified are not.

But I have my answer from Mod of War Mod of War . No need for your intervention, but thx ;)
To be honest i would like this explained too.
What's stopping anyone else from doing a 'Tommy Fisher' and start posting things like he has done.
This thread would be crawling with 'insiders'.

Claims he got them from “a trustee source”.
But Mod, does this not give incentive to ban Tommy from the thread at the least?
I just don't get it. How many times is this guy allowed to make bogus claims, fail at them and yet continue to be posting here whereas vetted members are under the microscope by pretty much everyone here?

Lots of gullible users here...
weren’t we saying he was a bullshitter like last week? Why is everyone surprised. And Mod of War Mod of War how could u not have told it was a fake? Just look at the grips and it’s textures and button symmetry
I stopped listening to his posts and put him on ignore weeks ago when nothing he said panned out. Knew he was a fake then already. I'm surprised people have not realized that ages ago.
 
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alex_m

Neo Member
Oh boy... DF never cease to amaze me 😑

I marked them on YouTube as "Not interested" after their 9.2TF analysis. Hope others will do this too.

I believe they are part of Microsofts FUD campaign or they simply think in terms of with wich system they can have more videos where they count FPS and dropped frames.
People are so concerned with df and I don't get why. I have yet to watch a single video of theirs. I just look into threads for the spins and laughs.

You do realize you don't have to watch their shit and give them clicks right? Its like Jason Schreir or however you spell his name. Sometimes he's an "insider" to you guys and other times he's a joke. It just depends on what side of the fence you're on lol.

I marked them as "Not interested" on YouTube because I don't care about dropped frames or response times compared to PC or XBox. I care primarily about content.

If they were honest, they would also report what a clusterfuck Windows (and XBox OS) is. Subreddit r/xbox is full of reports about something not working properly.
 

Mod of War

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To be honest i would like this explained too.
What's stopping anyone else from doing a 'Tommy Fisher' and start posting things like he has done.
This thread would be crawling with 'insiders'.


But Mod, does this not give incentive to ban Tommy from the thread at the least?
I just don't get it. How many times is this guy allowed to make bogus claims, fail at them and yet continue to be posting here whereas vetted members are under the microscope by pretty much everyone here?

He has until tomorrow at 5PM PST to explain why he chose such obvious fakes to die on, otherwise he’s perm’ed from the site.

Who’s going to open the betting that this throwaway account won’t show?
 

husomc

Member
and does that make sense to you?

how can something more powerful offer worse performance?

its clear we need to learn from today and ignore everyone's riddles.
It's like asking an olympic heavy lifter to run a 100m race, or see who wins a triathalon, a heavy lifter or a runner
 
He has until tomorrow at 5PM PST to explain why he chose such obvious fakes to die on, otherwise he’s perm’ed from the site.

Who’s going to open the betting that this throwaway account won’t show?
Understood. Appreciate the hard yards you guys have to do to keep the forum clean.

I'd honestly be overjoyed if he gets perma banned. Still it won't stop him creating another account. I'm no mod but if people want to claim to know info and post it, they should be vetted or get lost.

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Forget the above in bold. It's not my place to make these rules. Happy to continue with the thread discussion.
 
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Why do people get so worked up about insiders? It's like some people take what they share personally. If it's something that aligns with their thoughts then that's ok, but if it doesn't align with your personal thoughts, then you must try to discredit them or burn them at the stake.

Some people need to work on their critical thinking.

They're just sharing information they hear, read or see, take it or leave it. In time you'll we will hear whatever was said to be true of false. No big deal.

Enjoy the ride.
So you want the trolling to continue. Gotcha.
 
He has until tomorrow at 5PM PST to explain why he chose such obvious fakes to die on, otherwise he’s perm’ed from the site.

Who’s going to open the betting that this throwaway account won’t show?

I dont know what could be more epic...

To see Tommy Fisher Tommy Fisher sending you the pics you requested him or to see Sony releasing a 13.2 RDNA2 TF manchine :)
 
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