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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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PocoJoe

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When both consoles are out I’m printing this thread out and reading it again. It’s got more twists than Lost and hopefully a better ending.



There’s not much to elaborate on. I mean, the jump from the previous console to the next is huge, and while we have had big jumps before, we have never changed storage medium and had access to top end CPUs as well. This is like going from a go kart to an F1 car. However the trouble is like going form a go kart to an F1 car, don’t expect artists and devs to get the full potential out of these things for a good few years. But when they do...

Snes had 128+128kb of memory + 1.79 to 3.58MHz cpu

ps1 had 2mb of ram, 1mb of vram, 0.512mb for sound = 11x more of ram

ps2 had 32mb of ram, 294MHz CPU + 147MHz gpu = 16x more of ram or 10,6x if counting ram+vram

ps3 had 256+256 of ram, 3.2GHz cpu + 550 mhz gpu = 16x more of ram

ps4 had 8gb of ram + 1.6? Ghz jaguar + 1.85Tflops gpu = 15,6x more of ram

So PS5 needs to have 80 to 128 gigs of ram to jump to be even on the same level of gens before it (and even 32 would be a day dream)

I didnt check gpu / cpu flops, but if I remember correctly they are around the same ball park aka 10-25x more between gens.

So in raw numbers next gen isnt clearly the biggest jump, it is kind of one of the smallest jumps in raw numbers.

But if looking at what can be achieved with it, then it is nice jump but of course next gen have always been better than the one before it (not counting nintendos slow ass tech)

SSD is the biggest jump of storage speed in ages and probably gives us the most benefits and changes



 
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Bo_Hazem

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He has until tomorrow at 5PM PST to explain why he chose such obvious fakes to die on, otherwise he’s perm’ed from the site.

Who’s going to open the betting that this throwaway account won’t show?

giphy.gif
 

Ragona

Member
I was not going to say it because I found it quite sickly, but from this Gif you can also extrapolate a "number".

Do you want yo play?

There is more information than is seen (not a joke). But it is not easy. Whoever finds out will earn a personalized avatar image for me, at the choice of the winner (what bullshit, right?).

It is not valid to guess only the number (which can be integer or floating). You must also reason your deduction.

Time ends when official PS5 data comes out.


looks like a clip from Takeshi's castle, which had 133 episodes, so 13,3 tflops. easy
 
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Deleted member 775630

Unconfirmed Member
MS narrative is strong to some people. Only they can do this, only they can do that.
Indeed. It's just a question of how much do they want to sell their console for. If both Microsoft and Sony aimed at the same price, their consoles will be basically the same since no one is making the mistakes of current gen.
 
I was not going to say it because I found it quite sickly, but from this Gif you can also extrapolate a "number".

Do you want yo play?

There is more information than is seen (not a joke). But it is not easy. Whoever finds out will earn a personalized avatar image for me, at the choice of the winner (what bullshit, right?).

It is not valid to guess only the number (which can be integer or floating). You must also reason your deduction.

Time ends when official PS5 data comes out.


I doubt the result to be visible.
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mejin

Member
Maybe it doesn't come to mind anymore, many pages have gone by, but I think it's being a bit unfair, especially with some Insiders.

In addition, I have received some PM in the last hours and, based on all this, I would like to make some things clear.

The job of an Insider is not to give information. It is true that there are several types of information:

- The one that comes directly to you.
- The one that comes to you indirectly.

If the information reaches me directly and I publish it, I am risking my position. That is why, for example, I did not come here to give information, I already made it clear in my first message. I am not paid to give information. And it is the information I can give at that time, neither more nor less. And I give it for courtesy, not for obligation. Who says "here," I say "anywhere."

Similarly, many Insiders have information that does not compromise them but does compromise their sources. And that must be respected.

I do not know everyone, nor their intentions, but I find it hard to believe that some risk their positions for some photos. I think something else must be behind that explains the situation. Likewise I have not been able to follow the case in real time and I don't know exactly what happened (if someone can summarize it to me) but I am sure it will be solved in the best way.

You should also understand that, although silence is frustrating and information is scarce, it is not as easy as not saying a name. If an information comes out, it ends up knowing where it came from.

I have signed confidentiality papers. And therefore, the confidants of Osiris (for example) also (surely).

With all this we go to mistakes. As I can't come here to say anything exact, I can't go wrong either. My only mistake would be to tell the exact truth. And it would be a mistake because that would involve getting into legal trouble. I don't care at all if someone here believes me or not. I worry about choosing the right words to say the maximum allowed without any legal repercussion. And as I have said once in public and in private, the only time I said clearly that one was better than the other at a certain moment, it almost cost me my job. And that won't happen again. Similarly, if Osiris compromises your information, it will be compromising its sources. Seriously.

It's bullshit? Yes. It's crap. But that's what there is. It is either this or absolute silence.

I am sure that if there are no more "public" Insiders it is not because they do not want to but because they cannot.

Therefore, the only thing that can be done is to give you the information in a way that is not direct and in which you should know how to interpret. Some will interpret it well, and others will misinterpret it. I understand that those who misinterpret it will feel frustrated and deceived. But that's what there is. You can only give one guide. I cannot allow a story to appear on the Internet that says "I have said that ...". So I give you examples (or similes) for you to interpret.

If an Insider goes out to say exact things, it is because he can do it and because he is allowed to. If you ever see real publications ahead of time, I am sure they will not come from any Insider, unless you want to compromise someone.

The rest is called leaks, and they are anonymous. And the risk they have is that being anonymous can be true or false. And that's where the logic of each individual comes into play.

Logically many clauses are falling as information appears, and therefore, in those cases I can be a little more direct and affirm or deny things, since in that case I am not the origin of the information and I literally cover my back. The same must happen with other informants. And in other cases the information is denied by its own weight and logic and I only confirm the obvious (as has already happened). Similarly, what I can't say today, maybe tomorrow I can. But in any case, it will always be subject to your interpretation.

Yesterday I commented with some users by private. I can give you a Gif about my vision and you are the ones who have to interpret it.

giphy.gif

The fact that after this, some draw wrong conclusions is everyone's problem.

In the same way. Saying one thing does not mean denying another. That is, saying that PS5 is great does not mean that the XSX is automatically crap. And the same in reverse.

I know what everyone wants to know. But you have to understand that I am not willing to lose my job because of it. Similarly, people who give information to OsirisBlack OsirisBlack trust him. And so it should be.

I hope you can understand what I am trying to convey. Do not be so demanding with those who bring you information. since for better or worse, try to make your wait more enjoyable or pleasant. Everywhere there are malicious people, but I think they are well known.

Cheers

If this message does not have the desired effect I think it will be my last "long" message.


The important thing is...where is this gif from?





People don't read, just quoting for more to see.
 
I am going to say this, once when the specs are unveiled for PS5, a lot many are going to regret saying terrible things at Osirisblack and others who've shared similar info as Osiris. This is my intuition and..
and when/if Osiris and others peddled false info comes to light?
 

Mr Moose

Member
Now this IS very interesting. However, my fingers wouldn’t touch those new parts on the inner grips very well, so if they are sensors or bottons they won’t work for me, or for little kids even. The new buttons under the dpad and face buttons look like start and share have moved and the entire front at the top could be a touch pad?

Interesting... where did you find it?
 

OsirisBlack

Banned
Maybe it doesn't come to mind anymore, many pages have gone by, but I think it's being a bit unfair, especially with some Insiders.

In addition, I have received some PM in the last hours and, based on all this, I would like to make some things clear.

The job of an Insider is not to give information. It is true that there are several types of information:

- The one that comes directly to you.
- The one that comes to you indirectly.

If the information reaches me directly and I publish it, I am risking my position. That is why, for example, I did not come here to give information, I already made it clear in my first message. I am not paid to give information. And it is the information I can give at that time, neither more nor less. And I give it for courtesy, not for obligation. Who says "here," I say "anywhere."

Similarly, many Insiders have information that does not compromise them but does compromise their sources. And that must be respected.

I do not know everyone, nor their intentions, but I find it hard to believe that some risk their positions for some photos. I think something else must be behind that explains the situation. Likewise I have not been able to follow the case in real time and I don't know exactly what happened (if someone can summarize it to me) but I am sure it will be solved in the best way.

You should also understand that, although silence is frustrating and information is scarce, it is not as easy as not saying a name. If an information comes out, it ends up knowing where it came from.

I have signed confidentiality papers. And therefore, the confidants of Osiris (for example) also (surely).

With all this we go to mistakes. As I can't come here to say anything exact, I can't go wrong either. My only mistake would be to tell the exact truth. And it would be a mistake because that would involve getting into legal trouble. I don't care at all if someone here believes me or not. I worry about choosing the right words to say the maximum allowed without any legal repercussion. And as I have said once in public and in private, the only time I said clearly that one was better than the other at a certain moment, it almost cost me my job. And that won't happen again. Similarly, if Osiris compromises your information, it will be compromising its sources. Seriously.

It's bullshit? Yes. It's crap. But that's what there is. It is either this or absolute silence.

I am sure that if there are no more "public" Insiders it is not because they do not want to but because they cannot.

Therefore, the only thing that can be done is to give you the information in a way that is not direct and in which you should know how to interpret. Some will interpret it well, and others will misinterpret it. I understand that those who misinterpret it will feel frustrated and deceived. But that's what there is. You can only give one guide. I cannot allow a story to appear on the Internet that says "I have said that ...". So I give you examples (or similes) for you to interpret.

If an Insider goes out to say exact things, it is because he can do it and because he is allowed to. If you ever see real publications ahead of time, I am sure they will not come from any Insider, unless you want to compromise someone.

The rest is called leaks, and they are anonymous. And the risk they have is that being anonymous can be true or false. And that's where the logic of each individual comes into play.

Logically many clauses are falling as information appears, and therefore, in those cases I can be a little more direct and affirm or deny things, since in that case I am not the origin of the information and I literally cover my back. The same must happen with other informants. And in other cases the information is denied by its own weight and logic and I only confirm the obvious (as has already happened). Similarly, what I can't say today, maybe tomorrow I can. But in any case, it will always be subject to your interpretation.

Yesterday I commented with some users by private. I can give you a Gif about my vision and you are the ones who have to interpret it.

giphy.gif

The fact that after this, some draw wrong conclusions is everyone's problem.

In the same way. Saying one thing does not mean denying another. That is, saying that PS5 is great does not mean that the XSX is automatically crap. And the same in reverse.

I know what everyone wants to know. But you have to understand that I am not willing to lose my job because of it. Similarly, people who give information to OsirisBlack OsirisBlack trust him. And so it should be.

I hope you can understand what I am trying to convey. Do not be so demanding with those who bring you information. since for better or worse, try to make your wait more enjoyable or pleasant. Everywhere there are malicious people, but I think they are well known.

Cheers

If this message does not have the desired effect I think it will be my last "long" message.
Gracias BGs BGs por compartir ese gif públicamente. Además, como siempre, gracias por su paciencia y por compartir. Disfruta tu día. Gracias Hermano.
 

Smoke6

Member
This in no way would be a make or break generation for them. They recouped the profits thy lost during ps3 and then some. If thy don't do so hot this gen which is virtually impossible thyll continue gaming.

However in terms of the marketing and announcements only fanboys and trolls think it's insecurity and bad news having Sony take its time. I've said it from the beginning and most sane ppl know it's just Sony being Sony and keeping to their strategy. This article is on point 100%.
Make or break in terms of direction nex gen consoles go as far as physical media or streaming! Then next few years can be very telling
 

xHunter

Member
Maybe it doesn't come to mind anymore, many pages have gone by, but I think it's being a bit unfair, especially with some Insiders.

In addition, I have received some PM in the last hours and, based on all this, I would like to make some things clear.

The job of an Insider is not to give information. It is true that there are several types of information:

- The one that comes directly to you.
- The one that comes to you indirectly.

If the information reaches me directly and I publish it, I am risking my position. That is why, for example, I did not come here to give information, I already made it clear in my first message. I am not paid to give information. And it is the information I can give at that time, neither more nor less. And I give it for courtesy, not for obligation. Who says "here," I say "anywhere."

Similarly, many Insiders have information that does not compromise them but does compromise their sources. And that must be respected.

I do not know everyone, nor their intentions, but I find it hard to believe that some risk their positions for some photos. I think something else must be behind that explains the situation. Likewise I have not been able to follow the case in real time and I don't know exactly what happened (if someone can summarize it to me) but I am sure it will be solved in the best way.

You should also understand that, although silence is frustrating and information is scarce, it is not as easy as not saying a name. If an information comes out, it ends up knowing where it came from.

I have signed confidentiality papers. And therefore, the confidants of Osiris (for example) also (surely).

With all this we go to mistakes. As I can't come here to say anything exact, I can't go wrong either. My only mistake would be to tell the exact truth. And it would be a mistake because that would involve getting into legal trouble. I don't care at all if someone here believes me or not. I worry about choosing the right words to say the maximum allowed without any legal repercussion. And as I have said once in public and in private, the only time I said clearly that one was better than the other at a certain moment, it almost cost me my job. And that won't happen again. Similarly, if Osiris compromises your information, it will be compromising its sources. Seriously.

It's bullshit? Yes. It's crap. But that's what there is. It is either this or absolute silence.

I am sure that if there are no more "public" Insiders it is not because they do not want to but because they cannot.

Therefore, the only thing that can be done is to give you the information in a way that is not direct and in which you should know how to interpret. Some will interpret it well, and others will misinterpret it. I understand that those who misinterpret it will feel frustrated and deceived. But that's what there is. You can only give one guide. I cannot allow a story to appear on the Internet that says "I have said that ...". So I give you examples (or similes) for you to interpret.

If an Insider goes out to say exact things, it is because he can do it and because he is allowed to. If you ever see real publications ahead of time, I am sure they will not come from any Insider, unless you want to compromise someone.

The rest is called leaks, and they are anonymous. And the risk they have is that being anonymous can be true or false. And that's where the logic of each individual comes into play.

Logically many clauses are falling as information appears, and therefore, in those cases I can be a little more direct and affirm or deny things, since in that case I am not the origin of the information and I literally cover my back. The same must happen with other informants. And in other cases the information is denied by its own weight and logic and I only confirm the obvious (as has already happened). Similarly, what I can't say today, maybe tomorrow I can. But in any case, it will always be subject to your interpretation.

Yesterday I commented with some users by private. I can give you a Gif about my vision and you are the ones who have to interpret it.

giphy.gif

The fact that after this, some draw wrong conclusions is everyone's problem.

In the same way. Saying one thing does not mean denying another. That is, saying that PS5 is great does not mean that the XSX is automatically crap. And the same in reverse.

I know what everyone wants to know. But you have to understand that I am not willing to lose my job because of it. Similarly, people who give information to OsirisBlack OsirisBlack trust him. And so it should be.

I hope you can understand what I am trying to convey. Do not be so demanding with those who bring you information. since for better or worse, try to make your wait more enjoyable or pleasant. Everywhere there are malicious people, but I think they are well known.

Cheers

If this message does not have the desired effect I think it will be my last "long" message.

Edit: nvm, seems to be something else
 
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FeiRR

Banned
I actually started reading about Diablo lore (lol) and "Mark Cerny" is a misterious person who some fans dug up as being called "Rathma" and who's supposed to "restore balance to the world". Also, the wings seem to have 6 parts each, 12 together. Now I'm really, really stretching :messenger_beaming:
 
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