siekro1983
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it's basically leak 8.8-9.2 teraflops vs 11-13 Osiris and BG. I was convinced the leaks would be right. Now i'm 50/50. the last 2 spec leaks from well known insiders were off by a country mile.
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it's basically leak 8.8-9.2 teraflops vs 11-13 Osiris and BG. I was convinced the leaks would be right. Now i'm 50/50. the last 2 spec leaks from well known insiders were off by a country mile.
Gamernyc78
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Kaze if psv is 9tf like github ima change my avatar Pic and put a new Pic of myself without a shirt and write on my chest "I'm a bozo that believed" and keep it as my avatar for like three months
Mod of War
just an FYI 
Shmunter
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Maybe they’re actually retrofitting the lifeless world with features from the series all the way back on the 360? Even though below vid is gears5 footage from pc version, it’s still a current gen game designed around console limitations. Jaguar begone!
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Gamernyc78
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Oh lawd neogaf, news, neogaf
www.gizchina.com
neogaf, news, neogaf
Sony PS5 and Xbox Series X Each Will Have Two Versions
It turns out the upcoming PS5 will have the same configuration as the Xbox Series X, and each will have two versions of basic and Pro.
www.gizchina.com
Fun Fanboy
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Funny thing would be if it was dev kit flops they've been talking about the whole time. Because we know that they always have beefier specs in the dev kits.
Sosokrates
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Some compromises have to be made when they have a much bigger and varried game, gears 5 has a lot more stuff then epics gears game, I think they made the right choice the shooting and combat was great in gears 5 despite there being some changes from previous years games.
Shmunter
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Abosolutely, hopefully basic physics and interaction compromises will be a thing of the past with ample cpu power next gen. Having your cake etc.
Gamernyc78
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Not always and most of the time dev kits just have more ram.
IkarugaDE
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B_Boss
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Sosokrates
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Yes, hopefully better tools and tech will minimise compromises, but design will still impact where the focuses are.
FERN
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Why is that?
MaulerX
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What are you talking about? Why split my post into 2 and respond to the same post twice as if I made 2 separate posts? You need to stop being disingenuous and framing people. You're pathetic.
I just quoted what Jeff said. I simply agreed because:
It is our own fault this is happening. Our thirst for news has gotten us to twist everything anyone says as confirmation of anything. It's pretty ridiculous and sad actually.
ethomaz
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Except more RAM which devkits has more TFs? Or better CPU?
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ZywyPL
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No, it's just people adding up to their believes. It's like in that movie with Jim Carrey, The Number 23, where once pitched the idea ha started to see the number literally everywhere, and the same applies to many many folks here, they'll find a four-leaf clover and still add a philosophy why it means 9 (or 12) TF...
Gamernyc78
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Bcus they are running debug builds with much larger exes than normal. Remember optimization for games is an ongoing process.
LED Guy?
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Nope, Sony has a history of having their development kits as powerful as the retail console, the CPUs/GPUs are the same, just maybe a bit more RAM, that's all.
It happened with the PS4 and with the PS4 Pro, PS4's 1.8 TF GPU was known since June 2012, almost a year and a half before Its release and look now, it has a 1.84 TF GPU, now we are less than 9 months before these consoles release, so these development kits that developers have right now are final.
Md Ray
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Xbox One X dev kit I believe. 6.6 TF as it has full 44 CUs active running at 1172 MHz. As for the CPU, I think it's probably the same but clocked a bit higher. Not exactly sure about the CPU though.
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ethomaz
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That is weird and not the norm.
Using a stronger hardware to test a game that will run in a weaker hardware.
The goal of a DevKit is to have the exactly environment of the retail machine.
Because everything else you can do on PC... if you want to run the game in a strong hardware.
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Kaze if psv is 9tf like github ima change my avatar Pic and put a new Pic of myself without a shirt and write on my chest "I'm a bozo that believed" and keep it as my avatar for like three months
You just want to show that chest off!
HawarMiran
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hahah that movie is one of my all time favourites. the sequel was funny too
SportsFan581
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Never bad to have headroom for debug, etc. while still maintaining the full performance of the target.
Hah, no offence here. I'm getting both either way. I just find it funny when people think the xsx is "big" when it's not big, it's tall. It's actually got a small footprint. Think of a gamecube, but a wee bit bigger, and obviously several gamecubes taller.
Equally, we know roughly how powerful the ps5 is - so cooling is going to be a big factor in that too. Unless the ps5 is going for a same tower design as xsx, you can rest assure it'll be bigger than the PS4 pro.
Kazekage1981
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Md Ray
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I guess it's a Microsoft thing. There's also Xbox 360 devkit with 1GB RAM. Twice the amount of RAM of the retail unit, just like today we have One X devkit with 24 gigs. Devkits are usually beefier than retail units, even for Sony. That massive PS2 devkit comes to mind.
EDIT: Here it is:
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Fun Fanboy
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9.2 it is then!
IkarugaDE
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I get in and in this case I'll change my avatar into a dog that poops *!Kaze if psv is 9tf like github ima change my avatar Pic and put a new Pic of myself without a shirt and write on my chest "I'm a bozo that believed" and keep it as my avatar for like three months
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Without visible poop.
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SlimySnake
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Hi there, check your DMs.
Kazekage1981
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If its 9.2 TFLOPS then what did the 'genius' of lead architect mark cerny truly achieve? oh wait its 13 TFLOPS with FP16 precision, not gcn tflops.
LED Guy?
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We don't even know what the circumstances were with the 9.2 TFs, you are looking at an out of context andf out of date information, and get this, Sony was planning to release the PS5 in 2019, so I don't really know every bit of every possible info or decision that Mark Cerny or Sony does in every dev kits, we just have enough info to fill out the unknown blanks, that's it.9.2 it is then!
KEY SENTENCE: I told you the PS4 dev kits in June 2012, not in 2011, because there were dev kits of PS4/XB1 in 2011, so June 2019 is the new PS5 that's being planned to launch in Holiday 2020.
Andrew Reiner and Arthur Gies both of them knew that XSX is 12 TFlops since around E3 2019, and still, Andrew Reiner said that the PS5 is more powerful than the XSX.
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demigod
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Again?
FERN
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EGOMON
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My mind has jammed. See you later guys.
David Ricardo
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He said that he almost lost his job for saying early ps5 dev kit was better than early series x dev kit. If there is a number there to find, it for sure isn’t the teraflop number. And if it is, he couldn’t tell us. So I don’t know which number we are looking for that we care about and isn’t under nda.
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Maybe that's the butterfly and we're getting dual GPUs with 9,2 TF each...
And Github was/is corret
So this makes even more sense:
Also it has a dimension of 480 x 188 = 90.240
90.240 / 5 = 18.048
18 TF confirmed
Neo Blaster
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Indeed, normally devkits have more memory due to tools devs need to use, but that's it.
zufuel
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Kazekage1981
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a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend who works for a famous video game development company stated that ps5 makes holographic rainbows, unicorns and stars.
I can finally transform into a princess like I always wanted !!
I can finally transform into a princess like I always wanted !!
saintjules
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siekro1983
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So he almost lost his job, and now he's posting gif and playing a game to give hints about ps5 specs. forgive me for being cynical but something doesn't sound right.
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Deleted member 471617
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Personally, I will easily believe Timdog, Rand, Dealer and Jez Corden as they have literally said what Xbox Series X was going to be since December if not earlier, never wavered and have been proven right while on the other side, every single so called PlayStation insider have been full of shit, plain and simple. Ever since 2020 started, it's been one leak after another and all of them have varied while all those Xbox guys have said the exact same shit for months because they already knew. Every week (if not every day), it's a new PlayStation leak/rumor with nothing to back any of it up as well as the fact that every leak and claim is always different. There's no consistency or accuracy whatsoever.
There's not a single PlayStation "insider" that I would even take seriously or believe anything that they say. The only PlayStation guy I would believe at this point would be Colin Moriarty but he rarely if ever says anything outside of Ratchet & Clank 2 which I believe is pretty much a given so instead, I will just wait until Sony officially says/posts/releases something themselves which I don't believe will be until after Microsoft's E3 2020 showcase and that's my own personal gut feeling. With Nioh 2, FF7R and TLOUP2 all before E3, Sony simply doesn't need to reveal any more than what they already have via Wired articles.
There's not a single PlayStation "insider" that I would even take seriously or believe anything that they say. The only PlayStation guy I would believe at this point would be Colin Moriarty but he rarely if ever says anything outside of Ratchet & Clank 2 which I believe is pretty much a given so instead, I will just wait until Sony officially says/posts/releases something themselves which I don't believe will be until after Microsoft's E3 2020 showcase and that's my own personal gut feeling. With Nioh 2, FF7R and TLOUP2 all before E3, Sony simply doesn't need to reveal any more than what they already have via Wired articles.
ethomaz
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Like I said they have more RAM to allow the tools for debug/profiling runs without impact the game.I guess it's a Microsoft thing. There's also Xbox 360 devkit with 1GB RAM. Twice the amount of RAM of the retail unit, just like today we have One X devkit with 24 gigs. Devkits are usually beefier than retail units, even for Sony. That massive PS2 devkit comes to mind.
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CPU and GPU are exactly the same.
That X devkit is odd.
They have more RAM for that (debug, profiling, etc) but the CPU/GPU are the same because you need to have the same retail hardware to optimizations (the goal of the devkits).
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FERN
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So PlayStation is better at keeping secrets then
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