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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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That is weird and not the norm.
Using a stronger hardware to test a game that will run in a weaker hardware.

The goal of a DevKit is to have the exactly environment of the retail machine.

Because everything else you can do on PC... if you want to run the game in a strong hardware.

Not at all. DevKits should have overhead to run things like debuggers in real time and software to track performance, memmory usage and whatnot. They usually are more powerful than retail hardware in order to handle such requirements and to ease the developers workflow, you know, the very thing they are built to do in the first place.
 

ethomaz

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Not at all. DevKits should have overhead to run things like debuggers in real time and software to track performance, memmory usage and whatnot. They usually are more powerful than retail hardware in order to handle such requirements and to ease the developers workflow, you know, the very thing they are built to do in the first place.
Except for more RAM for these overhead devkits are the same as retail units.

Seems like the only exception is Xbox One X XDK.

All PS devkits are the same as retail units with more RAM.
 
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3liteDragon

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Very helpful article.


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IkarugaDE

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Personally, I will easily believe Timdog, Rand, Dealer and Jez Corden as they have literally said what Xbox Series X was going to be since December if not earlier, never wavered and have been proven right while on the other side, every single so called PlayStation insider have been full of shit, plain and simple. Ever since 2020 started, it's been one leak after another and all of them have varied while all those Xbox guys have said the exact same shit for months because they already knew. Every week (if not every day), it's a new PlayStation leak/rumor with nothing to back any of it up as well as the fact that every leak and claim is always different. There's no consistency or accuracy whatsoever.

There's not a single PlayStation "insider" that I would even take seriously or believe anything that they say. The only PlayStation guy I would believe at this point would be Colin Moriarty but he rarely if ever says anything outside of Ratchet & Clank 2 which I believe is pretty much a given so instead, I will just wait until Sony officially says/posts/releases something themselves which I don't believe will be until after Microsoft's E3 2020 showcase and that's my own personal gut feeling. With Nioh 2, FF7R and TLOUP2 all before E3, Sony simply doesn't need to reveal any more than what they already have via Wired articles.
Because there have been enough indications for months that the XSX has 12TF and possibly even RDNA2. "Twice as strong as the One X (6TF) and future RDNA" was even stated directly by MS. If you only read a little bit in all the official articles and were interested in it, you could guess that. Even the last noobs.
 

Fun Fanboy

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Personally, I will easily believe Timdog, Rand, Dealer and Jez Corden as they have literally said what Xbox Series X was going to be since December if not earlier, never wavered and have been proven right while on the other side, every single so called PlayStation insider have been full of shit, plain and simple. Ever since 2020 started, it's been one leak after another and all of them have varied while all those Xbox guys have said the exact same shit for months because they already knew. Every week (if not every day), it's a new PlayStation leak/rumor with nothing to back any of it up as well as the fact that every leak and claim is always different. There's no consistency or accuracy whatsoever.

There's not a single PlayStation "insider" that I would even take seriously or believe anything that they say. The only PlayStation guy I would believe at this point would be Colin Moriarty but he rarely if ever says anything outside of Ratchet & Clank 2 which I believe is pretty much a given so instead, I will just wait until Sony officially says/posts/releases something themselves which I don't believe will be until after Microsoft's E3 2020 showcase and that's my own personal gut feeling. With Nioh 2, FF7R and TLOUP2 all before E3, Sony simply doesn't need to reveal any more than what they already have via Wired articles.
What about Thuway? Would you believe Thuway!
 
Well I guess he is implying that the TF number is within but my point was that he did not say exactly (or literally) what we’d find in the clip? As in “the TF number is in the clip” but it’s probably safe to assume he is implying TF number?

Yeah it’s definitely not a literal puzzle in the sense that it would be straight forward to figure out. He mentioned it wouldn’t be easy and the number could be an integer or floating.
 

SlimySnake

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So he almost lost his job, and now he's posting gif and playing a game to give hints about ps5 specs. forgive me for being cynical but something doesn't sound right.
lol im glad im not the only one who noticed this.

his job title and studio name is mentioned right under his name on era. i highly doubt sony ninjas would be ok with him teasing and hinting their numbers.
 

Sosokrates

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Of course thy can and thy are probably kissing cousins. It can be just their exclusives and features tht set them apart. Remember psv has vr and a new VR headset is coming. Thts actually what has me the most excited 😁

Yes if the xsx and PS5 are within 10% of each other, Lockhart, games and price will make the bigger differences
 
Yeah, I agree. I don't quite understand what he is doing now.


yea it's not looking good.

lol im glad im not the only one who noticed this.

his job title and studio name is mentioned right under his name on era. i highly doubt sony ninjas would be ok with him teasing and hinting their numbers.

On one hand you have legitimate leaks proven to be from AMD, on the other hand you have insiders desperate for attention. I'll say this if they get it right they deserve all the praise with the tag insider gods, but if they get it wrong off with there heads, it really just makes the forum look a joke with troll insiders.
 
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mckmas8808

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Why do people like this guy?

Is that really how you speak to your audience... really?

People are just excited over next-gen consoles. It's harmless fun. No need to get so ugly about people's speculation. Geez.

Did you following what he was saying though? We ARE DUMB for thinking the PS5 was going to get "announced" due to GiantBomb's supposed slip up.
 
I only understood Gracias and Hermano (the later because of Breaking Bad). But glad to use Google translate.

Speaking of Breaking Bad, you sonsofbitches better be watching Better Call Saul. Damn good 5th season so far, at least up there with BB (potentially better imo).

Also Kim's got a nice ass (y)

Begone Tommy! I hath conquered your curse, the avatar is under my control once more! Thicc girls shall prevail, ALWAYS and FOREVER!!!
 
Like I said they have more RAM to allow the tools for debug/profiling runs without impact the game.

CPU and GPU are exactly the same.

That X devkit is odd.



They have more RAM for that (debug, profiling, etc) but the CPU/GPU are the same because you need to have the same retail hardware to optimizations (the goal of the devkits).

True, that's the way it usually goes. Patches did make it to market for XboneX, I guess the bumped up specs didn't bugger development that bad.
 

SlimySnake

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Did you following what he was saying though? We ARE DUMB for thinking the PS5 was going to get "announced" due to GiantBomb's supposed slip up.
its not a big leap to make. and it is an easy thing for them to correct. this supposedly happened in the chat realtime which means it was paying customers with premium subs listening in.

a normal well adjusted human being wouldve simply corrected his paid viewers right away instead of letting it fester for a week and encourage the carnival of stupid. hes just as much to be blamed for this as the people who tried to link the dots.
 
yea it's not looking good.



On one hand you have legitimate leaks proven to be from AMD, on the other hand you have insiders desperate for attention. I'll say this if they get it right they deserve all the praise with the tag insider gods, but if they get it wrong off with there heads, it really just makes the forum look a joke with troll insiders.
I agree with you about BGs, but I disagree about github. There have been too many insiders contradicting the github stuff for it to actually be representative of final PS5 hardware (Matt, Klee, J Schreier...)
 
I agree with you about BGs, but I disagree about github. There have been too many insiders contradicting the github stuff for it to actually be representative of final PS5 hardware (Matt, Klee, J Schreier...)

There are too many insiders against it, that's why it's 50/50 for me anyway. even though the evidence is pretty damn strong. just gonna wait it out and not get myself too hyped till shit is official.
 

ethomaz

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Do we know actual Ghost of Tsushima and TLOU2 release dates? Sony will not say any PS5 stuff until then
May 29, 2020 for TLOU2.

E3 is already dead and how you will be playing TLOU2 instead to watch the few conferences there.
 
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bellome

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I have a close friend who works for a game dev abroad. He never leaked anything to me, today he told me there is high chance that next Gen consoles will be delayed to 2021 because of the coronavirus.
 
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ethomaz

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I have a close friend who works for a game dev abroad. He never leaked anything to me, today he told me there is high chance that next Gen consoles will be delayed to 2021 because of the covid-16.
If that happens is more due the production capacity in China being affected by Coronavirus.

Not because the consoles are not ready.

That is true for both Sony and MS.
That will be very sad.
 
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Perrott

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Do we know actual Ghost of Tsushima and TLOU2 release dates? Sony will not say any PS5 stuff until then
In 2013 the PS4 was announced at a time in which PS3 had heavy hitters like God of War: Ascension, The Last Of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, Gran Turismo 6 and Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time in the horizon. Those are more big exclusives than TLOU2 and Ghost of Tsushima and it didn't stop them from unveiling their console.
 

Fun Fanboy

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How smashed do you think MS/Xbox would be getting right now if the shoe was on the other foot at this same time? If all they showed was a logo, while Sony showed what the PS5 looked like, and had specs out as well. Just everything reversed.

Z huge guy would probably be tweeting out more stuff how Xbox is being sold off to Amazon or something I'd bet! :p
 
On one hand you have legitimate leaks proven to be from AMD, on the other hand you have insiders desperate for attention. I'll say this if they get it right they deserve all the praise with the tag insider gods, but if they get it wrong off with there heads, it really just makes the forum look a joke with troll insiders.


Honestly there are so many ways you can pull numbers to fit any narrative you wish from that GIF ( Optical, Mathematical, FM) that I suspect the method of its reveal will not be told until after Sony makes it official. So there is no real danger to him even if he really does know the #.
 

ethomaz

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How smashed do you think MS/Xbox would be getting right now if the shoe was on the other foot at this same time? If all they showed was a logo, while Sony showed what the PS5 looked like, and had specs out as well. Just everything reversed.

Z huge guy would probably be tweeting out more stuff how Xbox is being sold off to Amazon or something I'd bet! :p
Different market position.

Sony doesn’t need to prove themselves while MS is still a big unknown.
 
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Gamernyc78

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How smashed do you think MS/Xbox would be getting right now if the shoe was on the other foot at this same time? If all they showed was a logo, while Sony showed what the PS5 looked like, and had specs out as well. Just everything reversed.

Z huge guy would probably be tweeting out more stuff how Xbox is being sold off to Amazon or something I'd bet! :p

How smashed? As smashed as any bozo is trying to smash Sony. These corporations don't work on our time but when thy feel announcements are optimal and best based on their strategies. We are months away, more than half a year. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't know anything until four months out. People are too entitled.
 
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