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[tflopsmatter]

T tflopsmatter can I just ask why you’re so fixated on a TF value that means nothing to anybody of any significance that will purchase the machine?

You keep saying things like “triple the pro” and “double the X”, yet seem blissfully unaware that these machines are a damn sight more powerful than that, and a perfectly round TF figure is totally unreasonable to try and achieve, not when you can simply round that number up or down for promotional material.

It does mean a lot. If you are going to pay for a new console it should be a true generational leap beyond it's previous version. Every previous playstation has been a significant leap over the previous one and this must continue especially due to the fact that we are entering the uncanny valley, we are using VR which uses a ton of resources, etc. Also, you seem to forget almost like everyone else that EVERY console generation has had a VAST improvement in efficiency. The PS5 won't have a greater efficiency leap than the PS4 did over the PS3. So the only way to measure the improvement is via TFLOPS. That's why TFLOPS matter. And if the TFLOP rating doesn't show a true generational leap, then consumers will just wait for the next generation of consoles. This is especially true since there could be a PS5 Pro on the way.

Personally, I wouldn't think about buying a console that didn't have least 7-8 (or even better ten) times the TF of the previous version. And there are a LOT of other people who feel the same way. The SDD and raytracing hardware (which will consume even mroe resources) won't change the fact that anything less than a 12 TF PS5 would be a piece of junk that no one should purchase. This is especially true since even MORE games will be pushing for 4K graphics which in my opinion is mostly a WASTE.

 

[bitbydeath]

8 - 10 RDNA2 would be powerful enough to have a great leap in VR.
Those specs are still 3 -4x more powerful then the PS4 pro which already deliver a very good VR experience, I'm excited to imagine what Sony's Devs can do in VR with that much power.

That isn’t enough for native 4K.
Let me ask you this, given XSX and PS5 are using the same GPU does that mean you think MS were lying about their numbers?

 

[tflopsmatter]

Alex?... is it you?

Spoiler

Why are you trying to mock and attack me?

 

[Three Jackdaws]

Ok, I’m going to be taking a break from this thread for a while, as it’s totally losing the appeal of the technology talk now and common sense has gone out the window. Before I go though, a few things.

1) I’m not an insider. Never said I was, the mods never said I was. I’m not breaking any NDA, as I haven’t signed one. I haven’t signed one, because I have no direct access to development kits at this time, from any studio. If I did, i wouldn’t be posting about it, would I?
2) stop bringing up Team Blur Games, as if my company is leaking our precious info. This is me, sharing info I have from my own sources. Yeah I use our logo, because it’s my indie studio. My knowledge and stuff is what reflects on the studio, not that I know a guy who knows a guy that owns a dog.
3) Either believe it, or don’t. If you do, chat about it. If you don’t, chat about it. But once again (and may I add, at the same time of the day, with the same faces) things get a little... heated. I posted riddles and things for fun, so I can share with you what I’ve heard, but in a fun way. Because we need the fun.
4) Above all else, use common sense. And stop going instantly into arsehole mode because you have read something you don’t like. It’s totally ok to be on the lower tf scale, or the upper. It doesn’t mean anything this time around. You have no idea what’s coming and truth be told neither do I, or HeisenbergFX4 , or OsirisBlack or @BGs .

But, for now, I’m out. I’m gonna pop in and read things, but I’ll be posting elsewhere on the site. I certainly don’t mind people making news stories, or Era posting stuff etc, but... let’s all just be a bit calmer about it all, eh? Let’s not try and bring my character into question. I’ve been level headed this whole time and stayed the course, never once going full fanboy, either side. Give me a little respect, eh? I’ve given you as much as you’ve allowed.

But anyway.... Thanks for the chats, the giggles, the fun. But man, like @BGs... I too need a few weeks off

I’ll try and pop back in and maybe answer things but don’t expect much from me in this thread for a while.

❤❤❤



See what I mean?

sorry it had to come to that dude, I don't understand the "extreme" obsession certain people have on this thread about teraflops even though the most consistent thing we've been hearing is both consoles will be on par in terms of power. Even the dam github leak has been shredded apart and people are still not satisfied. I don't mind people discussing tech specs but it's coming to the point where some people are developing un-healthy obsessions with this kinda stuff and then start being rude to people on this thread smh! hope to you see on here again soon!

 

[tflopsmatter]

Ok, I’m going to be taking a break from this thread for a while, as it’s totally losing the appeal of the technology talk now and common sense has gone out the window. Before I go though, a few things.

1) I’m not an insider. Never said I was, the mods never said I was. I’m not breaking any NDA, as I haven’t signed one. I haven’t signed one, because I have no direct access to development kits at this time, from any studio. If I did, i wouldn’t be posting about it, would I?
2) stop bringing up Team Blur Games, as if my own indie company is leaking out precious info on its development kits. This is me, sharing info I have from my own sources. Myself and TBG, I’ll as again, have NO DKs. None. Zero. We have no financial ties with any company. Yes, I use our logo, because it’s my own indie studio. My knowledge and stuff is what reflects on the studio, not that I know a guy who knows a guy that owns a dog. Do a little research.
3) Either believe it, or don’t. If you do, chat about it. If you don’t, chat about it. But once again (and may I add, at the same time of the day, with the same faces) things get a little... heated. I posted riddles and things for fun, so I can share with you what I’ve heard, but in a fun way. Because we need the fun.
4) Above all else, use common sense. And stop going instantly into arsehole mode because you have read something you don’t like. It’s totally ok to be on the lower tf scale, or the upper. It doesn’t mean anything this time around. You have no idea what’s coming and truth be told neither do I, or HeisenbergFX4 , or OsirisBlack or @BGs .

But, for now, I’m out. I’m gonna pop in and read things, but I’ll be posting elsewhere on the site. I certainly don’t mind people making news stories, or Era posting stuff etc, but... let’s all just be a bit calmer about it all, eh? Let’s not try and bring my character into question. I’ve been level headed this whole time and stayed the course, never once going full fanboy, either side. Give me a little respect, eh? I’ve given you as much as you’ve allowed.

But anyway.... Thanks for the chats, the giggles, the fun. But man, like @BGs... I too need a few weeks off

I’ll try and pop back in and maybe answer things but don’t expect much from me in this thread for a while.

The truth is that the PS5 isn't going to be a gimped system.

 

[thismeinteil]

Boy, insiders seem to be a sensitive bunch.

 

[tflopsmatter]

That isn’t enough for native 4K.
Let me ask you this, given XSX and PS5 are using the same GPU does that mean you think MS were lying about their numbers?

Any increase that isn't a generational leap is worthless.

 

[01011001]

It does mean a lot. If you are going to pay for a new console it should be a true generational leap beyond it's previous version. Every previous playstation has been a significant leap over the previous one and this must continue especially due to the fact that we are entering the uncanny valley, we are using VR which uses a ton of resources, etc. Also, you seem to forget almost like everyone else that EVERY console generation has had a VAST improvement in efficiency. The PS5 won't have a greater efficiency leap than the PS4 did over the PS3. So the only way to measure the improvement is via TFLOPS. That's why TFLOPS matter. And if the TFLOP rating doesn't show a true generational leap, then consumers will just wait for the next generation of consoles. This is especially true since there could be a PS5 Pro on the way.

Personally, I wouldn't think about buying a console that didn't have least 7-8 (or even better ten) times the TF of the previous version. And there are a LOT of other people who feel the same way. The SDD and raytracing hardware (which will consume even mroe resources) won't change the fact that anything less than a 12 TF PS5 would be a piece of junk that no one should purchase. This is especially true since even MORE games will be pushing for 4K graphics which in my opinion is mostly a WASTE.

wtf? the performance increase from GCN2 (PS4) to RDNA2 alone will be massive... add Zen 2 vs the god awful Jaguar CPU and you easily have a generational leap

Spoiler

Why are you trying to mock and attack me?

what else should I do with comments like that? you literally sound like alex jones in that damn comment lol

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Any increase that isn't a generational leap is worthless.

Just my 2 cents but even an 11 tf RDNA2 machine with a state of the art SSD is the very definition of a generational leap.

With what first party devs are doing with the Pro can you imagine what games will look like with this new tech?

 

[Sosokrates]

That isn’t enough for native 4K.
Let me ask you this, given XSX and PS5 are using the same GPU does that mean you think MS were lying about their numbers?

No I don't think Phil was lying. I don't know why you would think that I would think that.
And if PS4 pro can do 1440p on VR, 3-4x more powerful then that will be able to do 4k + better graphics, doubling the resolution requires doubling the power, cerny even said it would take 8gcn tflops to do PS4 games at 8k

 

[Self High Five]

Cartmanbrah has come around to agreeing that we are just at C revision.

Well damn, if Cartmanbrah said it then it's game over.

 

[01011001]

Just my 2 cents but even an 11 tf RDNA2 machine with a state of the art SSD is the very definition of a generational leap.

With what first party devs are doing with the Pro can you imagine what games will look like with this new tech?

also Zen 2 + bandwidth + RayTracing

isn't the performance increase from Jaguar to Zen 2 like x4 simply from the architecture alone?

 

[Kratos90]

wtf? the performance increase from GCN2 (PS4) to RDNA2 alone will be massive... add Zen 2 vs the god awful Jaguar CPU and you easily have a generational leap




what else should I do with comments like that? you literally sound like alex jones in that damn comment lol

and you sound like
an unsatisfied wife lol. stop trying to push your thoughts on others.

 

[tflopsmatter]

wtf? the performance increase from GCN2 (PS4) to RDNA2 alone will be massive... add Zen 2 vs the god awful Jaguar CPU and you easily have a generational leap




what else should I do with comments like that? you literally sound like alex jones in that damn comment lol

And the increase from the NVIDIA RSX to the GPU in the PS4 that had unified shaders was also a massive increase. The increase between the PS4 and the PS5 won't be any larger. So the only thing left to differentiate the GPUs is the TFLOP rating. Also, the raytracing hardware doesn't count since all it does is suck up massive resources and reduce overall performance.

Actually, I take that as a compliment. Although Alex Jones is a hot headed idiot in a lot of ways, he has exposed a LOT of truth on his program. When it comes to the UFO cover up, I stand by my comments. The evidence is overwhelming and anyone who does not recognize that is either ignorant or a shilling troll.

 

[bitbydeath]

No I don't think Phil was lying. I don't know why I would think that.
And if PS4 pro can do 1440p on VR, 3-4x more powerful then that will be able to do 4k + better graphics, doubling the resolution requires the power, cerny even said it would take 8gcn tflops to do PS4 games at 8k

If you don’t think Phil was lying then the ballpark for PS5 would be 11-13TF given they are using the same tech.

 

[01011001]

and you sound like
an unsatisfied wife lol. stop trying to push your thoughts on others.

lol push my thoughts on others? Mr. are you aware that you are currently on a gaming forum, a place literally designed to share thoughts? I know, this might be shocking news!

 

[Kumomeme]

Boy, insiders seem to be a sensitive bunch.

to be fair...you know how people on internet are

 

[tflopsmatter]

Just my 2 cents but even an 11 tf RDNA2 machine with a state of the art SSD is the very definition of a generational leap.

With what first party devs are doing with the Pro can you imagine what games will look like with this new tech?

It wouldn't be due to the fact that a generational leap is defined as having seven to ten times the TF of a previous generation. An eleven TF machine would be an insult and not worth the money.

 

[Kratos90]

lol push my thoughts on others? Mr. are you aware that you are currently on a gaming forum, a place literally designed to share thoughts? I know, this might be shocking news!

nothing to be shocked. every post you make is you trying to convince others that no matter what it is 9tf.

 

[Batiman]

It is, he's acting (really bad at it) and trolling.

Nah I’m pretty sure he’s serious. He even posted on era defending his behaviour lol

 

[docbot]

The XBX looks so much like a mini tower, I wonder if it's games and the whole system will have more robust mouse and keyboard support maybe.

 

[Darklor01]

It wouldn't be due to the fact that a generational leap is defined as having seven to ten times the TF of a previous generation. An eleven TF machine would be an insult and not worth the money.

I wouldn’t mind being insulted.

 

[M.Night Shyamalan]

Have you guys seen those arseholes on Era banning people for just mentioning Odium's post here? Bunch of fuckers running Era want to silence anything that doesn't seem to fit a certain narrative. That site is a damn joke. They seem to be into Fake news, history revisionism, censorship, and against free speech. I'm sure a week from now the cunts will still be sucking Colberts shilling dick drinking the PS5 is 36CU koolaid because they love their backwards agenda echo chamber. That Transistor is truly a cunt to censor any info just because Odium is from Gaf. He is fucking verified there for crying out fucking loud.

 

[DeepEnigma]

4096x4096 textures are... nothing new. Even the 360 supported them, and they have been in use for a very, very long time. The usage is that the comment was supposed to suggest they are using that resolution to cover a space of a meter square. That’s bullshit because on its own, that would produce utterly awful filing. The comment has been taken out of context.

Using a 4096 texture on a surface as small as a meter square is actually a very bad use of texture memory (if you use such a thing throughout a level) and I would be very shocked if that is what’s being done. More likely, you will be getting a 4096 resolution texture density at meter square texel definition over a larger surface blended with various other lower scaler surface textures for definition. A common trainer used for example is to stretch a texture over a wall, for example, and then blend the normal of a higher frequency image over that surface at a lower scale. This creates the illusion of a higher resolution texture, and has sharper definition up close, but of course is still using a low resolution texture under scrutiny. Usually 2048, or 1024.

As an example, we were using 4096x4096 resolution textures for things on projects 10+ years ago.

MLB The Show used 4096 for their uniforms, etc, on the PS3.

 

[johnjohn]

It wouldn't be due to the fact that a generational leap is defined as having seven to ten times the TF of a previous generation. An eleven TF machine would be an insult and not worth the money.

You're living in lala land lol.

 

[01011001]

nothing to be shocked. every post you make is you trying to convince others that no matter what it is 9tf.

no, I am saying: "expect 9.2TF" (I never said 9 btw... where would that number come from?) because that is the only (somewhat) hard evidence we have. and take anything above that as a bonus.
especially since even if some leakers here end up having very precise info, that info is usually coming from dev kits. dev kits might have more CUs enabled than the final system, they might run at higher clocks and the goal might change due to thermal tests with the final form factor.
the One X dev kit for example has 44 active CUs and 24GB of ram (vs 40 CUs and 12GB of Ram in the retail One X), that is the case so developers can overshoot their builds a bit and then tune down the settings and optimize from there, which is easier and faster than testing lower settings and slowly going up.

don't hype yourself up too much and then get disappointed. this is also in Sony's best interest btw. Imagine if me and everyone else here, without a single one doubting it, went and just said "yup I feel like it will definitely be 13 to 14 teraflops! there is no doubt! sony wouldn't release anything below that because that would be trash!" and then it turns out it is way closer to 10TF than many expected and hoped for.
that's why companies should always try to under-promise and over-deliver, because if you get more than you expected you will be happy... if the opposite is the case then you will, well... not be happy.

Phil Spencer for example massively under-sold the Series X with his "2x the GPU power of the One X" comment and his "4x the CPU power of the One X". the Series X's GPU will be comfortably more than 2x as powerful as the One X's and the CPU will most likely also be way more than 4x as powerful as those god awful jaguar cores.
so everyone was happy when the 12TF number got dropped... had it been 9TF like many expected because 9TF RDNA vs 6TF GCN yada... yada... the reaction wouldn't have been nearly as positive and more neutral or even negative.

under-sell over-deliver

9.2TF RDNA2 + Zen 2 + SSD + RT + VRS would be a great console and better than the average gaming PC out there
☝ so that is already very good no matter what some in here say, and more would be great, but just don't expect too much

 

[Sosokrates]

If you don’t think Phil was lying then the ballpark for PS5 would be 11-13TF given they are using the same tech.

What on earth are you talking about? Phil is head of Xbox he has confirmed the xsx is 12tf.
Sony has said nothing on the GPU power of the ps5, so it's all speculation.

 

[Faithless83]

Have you guys seen those arseholes on Era banning people for just mentioning Odium's post here? Bunch of fuckers running Era want to silence anything that doesn't seem to fit a certain narrative. That site is a damn joke. They seem to be into Fake news, history revisionism, censorship, and against free speech. I'm sure a week from now the cunts will still be sucking Colberts shilling dick drinking the PS5 is 36CU koolaid because they love their backwards agenda echo chamber. That Transistor is truly a cunt to censor any info just because Odium is from Gaf. He is fucking verified there for crying out fucking loud.

I wouldn't go near ERA, what is the narrative there? 9.2TFs?

 

[OsirisBlack]

Travel just suspended from Europe to America and the NBA now officially having games in empty arenas starting with the golden state vs Brooklyn game. State of emergency declared in several states and world health organization just classified this as a worldwide pandemic.

 

[Mod of War]

Bad news for Neogaf if he gets associated with this site and he ends up being full of it.

We’ll be okay.

 

[tflopsmatter]

The travel restriction is the best thing that the government can do. If things get really bad, I hope the next generation consoles are delayed and then in another year or so they launch with Zen3 and RDNA3.

 

[Thedtrain]

Travel just suspended from Europe to America and the NBA now officially having games in empty arenas starting with the golden state vs Brooklyn game. State of emergency declared in several states and world health organization just classified this as a worldwide pandemic.

Yep, pretty wild. Huge steps taken to prevent further spread.

 

[Darklor01]

The avg life span of a console is 6-10 years, usually 7 before the next gen is released. How well would you think 9.2 would hold up over that time. Tech leaps multiple times over itself if increasing intervals in terms of what it is capable of computing. I don’t know how well 9.2 would hold up over the next 7 years. If I am asked to pick 9.2 or 12 TF machine assuming prices are reasonably similar, I buy the more powerful every single time. If they’re close enough in power and price, that changes my thought process dramatically. I want to believe Sony will put out a competitive similarly spec machine.

 

[tflopsmatter]

I wouldn't go near ERA, what is the narrative there? 9.2TFs?

I wouldn't post on the ERA site for a million dollars.

 

[bitbydeath]

What on earth are you talking about? Phil is head of Xbox he has confirmed the xsx is 12tf.
Sony has said nothing on the GPU power of the ps5, so it's all speculation.

We know they’re both Navi 2 which puts them in a close ballpark to one another. That was confirmed by AMD.

 

[BlacknGold_Blood]

also Zen 2 + bandwidth + RayTracing

isn't the performance increase from Jaguar to Zen 2 like x4 simply from the architecture alone?

And then from GCN to RDNA2

 

[WhispersintheWind]

It does mean a lot. If you are going to pay for a new console it should be a true generational leap beyond it's previous version. Every previous playstation has been a significant leap over the previous one and this must continue especially due to the fact that we are entering the uncanny valley, we are using VR which uses a ton of resources, etc. Also, you seem to forget almost like everyone else that EVERY console generation has had a VAST improvement in efficiency. The PS5 won't have a greater efficiency leap than the PS4 did over the PS3. So the only way to measure the improvement is via TFLOPS. That's why TFLOPS matter. And if the TFLOP rating doesn't show a true generational leap, then consumers will just wait for the next generation of consoles. This is especially true since there could be a PS5 Pro on the way.

Personally, I wouldn't think about buying a console that didn't have least 7-8 (or even better ten) times the TF of the previous version. And there are a LOT of other people who feel the same way. The SDD and raytracing hardware (which will consume even mroe resources) won't change the fact that anything less than a 12 TF PS5 would be a piece of junk that no one should purchase. This is especially true since even MORE games will be pushing for 4K graphics which in my opinion is mostly a WASTE.

You do realize that the GPU architecture
alone at 11-12TF is a generational leap on its on.
That’s not including Hardware Ray Tracing, Better Memory , Better CPU and SSD?
These consoles will be like high end PC’s on Launch and for a few years.

 

[tflopsmatter]

The avg life span of a console is 6-10 years, usually 7 before the next gen is released. How well would you think 9.2 would hold up over that time. Tech leaps multiple times over itself if increasing intervals in terms of what it is capable of computing. I don’t know how well 9.2 would hold up over the next 7 years. If I am asked to pick 9.2 or 12 TF machine assuming prices are reasonably similar, I buy the more powerful every single time. If they’re close enough in power and price, that changes my thought process dramatically. I want to believe Sony will put out a competitive similarly spec machine.

Exactly. A 9.2 TF console wouldn't be able to keep up. In the very near future the next generation of AMD chips will be out that will make even a twelve TF console look mediocre. It makes zero sense for Sony to pick such a weak GPU. Those that keep pushing this number are either ignorant of how irrational they are OR pushing a narrative.

 

[ethomaz]

My wife taught English in Poland for a few years and speaks fluent Polish. We go to g’dansk on holiday every year.

We love the place. I’ll have nothing bad said about the Polish. Far more polite than your average UK chav that’s for sure.

Polish are indeed more friendly... people in UK seems more cold.
It is just different.
From somebody from Brasil (where most people are friendly) some EU countries are interesting with the cold way

I still want to go Asia
Of course not for a long time now with Coronavirus.

 

[Mass Shift]

Travel just suspended from Europe to America and the NBA now officially having games in empty arenas starting with the golden state vs Brooklyn game. State of emergency declared in several states and world health organization just classified this as a worldwide pandemic.

Tom Hanks and his wife who are in Australia have been tested and both have Covid 19. I suspect it won't just be Europe to America for long.

 

[Faithless83]

Travel just suspended from Europe to America and the NBA now officially having games in empty arenas starting with the golden state vs Brooklyn game. State of emergency declared in several states and world health organization just classified this as a worldwide pandemic.

I thought it took them long enough actually. This is bad for everyone, though.

Quick question, could you shed more light on the games and the exclusives/Studios? Anything that could get us through this silence?

Totally understand if you can't or won't due to backlash.
I believe I speak for the majority of us, that the insiders did a good job getting us hyped so far.

The TF narrative is getting old quick though...

 

[Matreios Raven]

The avg life span of a console is 6-10 years, usually 7 before the next gen is released. How well would you think 9.2 would hold up over that time. Tech leaps multiple times over itself if increasing intervals in terms of what it is capable of computing. I don’t know how well 9.2 would hold up over the next 7 years. If I am asked to pick 9.2 or 12 TF machine assuming prices are reasonably similar, I buy the more powerful every single time. If they’re close enough in power and price, that changes my thought process dramatically. I want to believe Sony will put out a competitive similarly spec machine.

Unless Sony is chasing PS4 sales numbers and they opted for a less powerful, yet more affordable machine.

 

[tflopsmatter]

You do realize that the GPU architecture
alone at 11-12TF is a generational leap on its on.
That’s not including Hardware Ray Tracing, Better Memory , Better CPU and SSD?
These consoles will be like high end PC’s on Launch and for a few years.

The GPU architecture at twelve TF might barely be considered a generational leap. Anything less than twelve would be a sick joke. And the hardware ray tracing, memory, CPU, and SSD are not factored in on what constitutes a generational leap. When it comes to defining a generational leap, only TF matter. Every single generation gets better memory, bandwidth, CPUs, etc. The whole idea that there's anything that can make up for a lack of TF is ridiculous because every generation gets these improvements.

 

[SlimySnake]

no, not tom hanks!

jueventus defender got it too. some nba player might have gotten it after he went around touching everyone to show how there is no coronavirus.

 

[tflopsmatter]

Unless Sony is chasing PS4 sales numbers and they opted for a less powerful, yet more affordable machine.

They wouldn't go for a machine that wasn't a true generational leap because it would be handing over the generation to MS. If they want to get sales, they need to make their system as powerful as possible so that it will be worth buying. If I only care about price, I would stick to games on my cell phone. I'm interested in consoles because I want the most photorealistic games possible.

 

[WhispersintheWind]

The GPU architecture at twelve TF might barely be considered a generational leap. Anything less than twelve would be a sick joke. And the hardware ray tracing, memory, CPU, and SSD are not factored in on what constitutes a generational leap. When it comes to defining a generational leap, only TF matter. Every single generation gets better memory, bandwidth, CPUs, etc. The whole idea that there's anything that can make up for a lack of TF is ridiculous because every generation gets these improvements.

you realize that even at 11TF the generational leap would be the biggest and greatest leap we have seen in a long time?

I would say this leap would be bigger then 360/PS3 leap.

 

[Hatsuma]

I tell you what I can feel. I can feel people who think TF is a single thing that matters more than anything, without realising it’s possible for a system to be better even when it’s 0.4tf slower. Weird how technology works, huh?

That's the most exciting part. I think a lot of people are looking at it too straightforwardly. I forgot the car analogy, but horsepower is not the only important element. All parts working in harmony is worth the sacrifice of a lil power (not to say the xsx doesn't have good balance).

I know there are some they really want the 12 tflops, and I would be lying if I said I didn't want it either. But sacrificing a lil brute power to enhance other elements such as speed and balance is not bad trade off.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Nah I’m pretty sure he’s serious. He even posted on era defending his behaviour lol

He already admitted he was trolling. Called it.

 

[ethomaz]

Other than common knowledge no. Sony are using the standard AMD RT solution, and MS are using DXR. Which will be better? That remains to be seen. I would actually put money on DXR, as that would seem to maybe get a bit more use outside? But that’s my own take on it, no facts there.

But that is the API (software) difference only, no? RT Hardware is the same?

If I have to guess DXR will be better for compatibility between Xbox and PC because DXR supports even nVidia GPUs.

While that the AMD API solution used by Sony will probably be better optimized and run faster than DXR on AMD GPUs.

 

[Batiman]

He already admitted he was trolling. Called it.

I dunno maybe he’s backpedaling because everyone’s calling him out? I didn’t believe that MLB video either until he defended that attitude on era until I think he was banned. All his other posts and tweets line up with his attitude as well. Unless he’s been trolling for years.