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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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So, Github is no longer considered as the Gospel Truth?

i think all of those TF numbers the platform holders flash around are peak theoretical performance anyway.
 
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PaintTinJr

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If both consoles get delayed, I suspect XsX’s delay will only be until May 2021, because they’ve already committed to a great number. Trying to change their great number requires a lot of marketing skill without it projecting insecurity (IMHO) if they haven't heard a better number from Cerny for the PS5 in the meantime. The longer the consoles delay, the harder it is for xbox to live with their great number, in case it has still fallen short by a distance; especially if Sony made it all the way to February 2021 without revealing PS5 specs. That type of time frame might allow them to revise their current position. That would leave Xbox with no concrete info on what Playstation was capable of releasing since the Pro – and the Pro wasn’t even Playstation going full tilt on the design of a half-gen refresh.
It is unthinkable we'd have to wait until Feb 2021 for Ps5 specs, but you wouldn't want to be the strategist at xbox, charged with predicting that figure, even for a free XsX and PS5.
 
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It's rubberbanding the other way. Skim the past day or two of pages. It's expanded to up to 15TF with RDNA 3 features.

Your effort to go the opposite direction with posting about 8.5 tf is commendable though:

9.2TF is the theoretical performance assuming the gpu is 2ghz, which many people say is too hot.

8.5TF RDNA 2 is more likely.

Best way to defend the throne.
 
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Lampiao

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Here in Brazil we still haven't had any deaths, but the peak is expected in 30 days. At the university I work at, academic activities are suspended from tomorrow, but people are not taking it seriously and thinking it is a vacation so much that the beaches, shopping malls and others are overcrowded.
 
The plot certainly thickens... Whelp we will certainly see. So many insiders, industry guys, strong second contacts, hell a verified dev, have been contrary to git hub.

Either the data is correct n they're all lying (including Schreier with his near perfect hit rate on rumors n inside info. @BGs who has a dev kit unless I'm misinformed. The names plenty) or GitHub's data is inaccurate to Ps5 current specs/issues is with context.
Exactly. All 'reliable' insiders including some devs have been signing from the same hymn sheet for months. All saying both next gen consoles are within spitting distance of each other power wise. We have 12TF confirmed from MS. Its not that hard to think that PS5 will be around that general area performance wise.
Github bible bashers are just trolling for the sake of trolling. Some people unfortuantely take the bait time and time again.
 

StreetsofBeige

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If both consoles get delayed, I suspect XsX’s delay will only be until May 2021, because they’ve already committed to a great number. Trying to change their great number requires a lot of marketing skill without it projecting insecurity (IMHO) if they haven't heard a better number from Cerny for the PS5 in the meantime, and so the longer the consoles delay the harder it is for xbox to live with that great number, in case it has still fallen short by a distance; especially if Sony made it all the way to February 2021 without revealing PS5 specs - which could allow them to revise their current position. That would leave Xbox with no concrete info on what Playstation was capable of releasing since the Pro – and the Pro wasn’t even Playstation going full tilt on the design of a half-gen refresh.
It is unthinkable we'd have to wait until Feb 2021 for Ps5 specs, but you wouldn't want to be strategist at xbox charged with predicting that figure even for a free XsX and PS5.
If both delay their systems to 2021, both MS and Sony are in the same position, regardless of MS already telling specs.

It's not like Sony doesn't know what their final PS5 specs are if it releases in Q4 2020. It's already March. They are probably ready to star manufacturing them to fill warehouses any month now. They know. And dev kits are already out there.

It's not like they are going to halt it, and in the next 6 months re-do the entire PS5 chipset and dev kits so it's ready to go in 2021. Even if Sony did do that, MS could do the same. If there is a delay, I bet both Sony and MS stick to their current config.

I don't think anyone at MS cares what PS5 specs are now or next year. They already told gamers a month ago what SeX is, so they are confident to put out PR now.

Sony on the other hand has cancelled every game show (including last year's E3 2019) and hasn't released numerical specs yet. MS has released high level 12tf and RDNA 2 data, but not cpu, gpu, ram, SSD size.
 
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01011001

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Regardless of the final TF numbers for both systems, from what I’ve read, these numbers would refer to only peak theoretical performance anyway, under ideal situations.

uhm? no... it is a set number the PS4 has 1.82TFLOPS at any situation, not under ideal situations. the only way this number would vary is if the console for some reason lowers its clocks, which on consoles would be developer controlled. on Switch for example developers can chose various different modes so if they don't need as much power they can down-clock the Switch's GPU in order to save battery life.
 
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uhm? no... it is a set number the PS4 has 1.82TFLOPS at any situation, not under ideal situations. the only way this number would vary is if the console for some reason lowers its clocks, which on consoles would be developer controlled. on Switch for example developers can chose various different modes so if they don't need as much power they can down-clock the Switch's GPU in order to save battery life.

Alright, I got it now. Thanks For the clarification.
 
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StreetsofBeige

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My God...that is terrible. Why is it hitting up them so hard?!?
Italy has lots of old people.

Also, disease reports always skew high for countries that put in effort to diagnose and report it.

Don't be surprised if you ever see cancer ratio reports from Scandinavian countries being high even though those places are clean and people live a long time. It's just that medical checks are good there and they have good equipment.
 

Hatsuma

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Italy has lots of old people.

Also, disease reports always skew high for countries that put in effort to diagnose and report it.

Don't be surprised if you ever see cancer ratio reports from Scandinavian countries being high even though those places are clean and people live a long time. It's just that medical checks are good there and they have good equipment.

Ah ok
 

StreetsofBeige

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It's one of those things to be weary of.

It's like crime reports. It seems half the time there's dumb shit going on in the US, it's from Florida. So you'd think FL is full of weirdos.

Turns out only a few years ago, I found out people say FL crime records are public. So people can sift through and find dumb crime reports to tell the internet, which makes FL looks worse than it really is. If you skim crime rates by state, FL is actually around middle of the pack.
 
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PaintTinJr

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If both delay their systems to 2021, both MS and Sony are in the same position, regardless of MS already telling specs.

It's not like Sony doesn't know what their final PS5 specs are if it releases in Q4 2020. It's already March. They are probably ready to star manufacturing them to fill warehouses any month now. They know. And dev kits are already out there.

It's not like they are going to halt it, and in the next 6 months re-do the entire PS5 chipset and dev kits so it's ready to go in 2021. Even if Sony did do that, MS could do the same. If there is a delay, I bet both Sony and MS stick to their current config.

I don't think anyone at MS cares what PS5 specs are now or next year. They already told gamers a month ago what SeX is, so they are confident to put out PR now.

Sony on the other hand has cancelled every game show (including last year's E3 2019) and hasn't released numerical specs yet. MS has released high level 12tf and RDNA 2 data, but not cpu, gpu, ram, SSD size.

I get your point, but it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that the same number of Devs have been left in the dark for performance this time, in the way they were with gddr5 ram size last time – Sony surely don’t want leakers revealing their PS5 specs. If you had the ability to have more performance than target specs, you could just have a hypervisor hide the additional performance, and still get the silicon properly stress tested by getting the system to replicate workloads in the visible CUs into the hidden CUs.

I think there is too much at stake for Sony with Playstation for them to reveal a system with a wimper now. Unlike Microsoft, that are big in hardware as a consumer of contract manufacturing, Sony is a creator of hardware technology, and if Microsoft has beaten them - even if using a big form factor and twice the BOM with two different SKUs - it will damage Sony entirely as a company (IMHO), which is why I don't think it will happen.
 

MarkMe2525

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Now GitHub got DESTROYED and the Xbox fanboys are crying and afraid of the beast the PlayStation 5, we told you Xbots that the GitHub leaks were outdated and out of context.

Now as OsirisBlack OsirisBlack have said FOR THE 3RD TIME that the PS5's latest development kit is whisper quiet and cool AND it is running at 12.4 TF (or maybe a bit higher), this CONFIRMS what Kleegamefan has been saying for the longest.

Thank you OsirisBlack OsirisBlack for confirming it again.

LAWWWWWWWD HAVE MERCY WHEN THE FINAL SPECS ARE CONFIRMED BY SONY AND WHEN XBOX FANBOYS GET TO SEE THE SPECS!! Haha love you guys! So happy that both consoles are very powerful.
Dude...
 
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Three Jackdaws

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Why does PS5 need a super dooper cooling system? Is it having issues where it overheats?
It can be either 2 scenarios,

The first is that it is overheating so they need an expensive cooling system so it can operate and not get too hot or noisy.

The second, it's not overheating but the expensive cooling system will ensure it runs whisper quiet and smooth

Just my guess of course.
 
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Mr Moose

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Why are people coming at insiders (verified ones) OsirisBlack OsirisBlack , Gavin Stevens Gavin Stevens and so on? If you don't like what they say that's fine, you don't need to attack them.
Sure, Gavin Stevens Gavin Stevens prefers Xbox but he's sharing info straight up, in an unbiased way, he's not a fucking 9.2TF guy.
Same with OsirisBlack OsirisBlack , I've seen a few attacking him, just wait for the reveal first? If their shit is wrong, then you can slap them with your dicks, not now. (even then... I wouldn't lol).
 

saintjules

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This guy credible at all? Been seeing some people share his content



His source is mentioning Dual Database Processor? 2 Guerrilla Games? HZD 2 is apparently not ready for a reveal yet or something? Hm.
 
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MarkMe2525

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No @CyberPanda, the post you posted was someone's speculations which are false, I really am weirded out by the way you act, when something that confirms your bias, you post it, when something that goes against your bias, you stay quiet and won't do anything....it's really weird, man, I know you have that Xbox Era discord with Spechal Ed, Colbert, Proelite, Tim Dog etc and all those guys but please, stop spreading misinformation like that.

What it really means is that it is pre-silicon, pre-silicon means virtual hardware, it means emulation, not the real hardware, it means that the PS5 is NOT a 9.2 TF console, it will be like what many insiders stated like 12 TFs or even more.
I'm in the 11 to 12 boat myself, but how does the fact that the GitHub leak is presillicon make it 12 tf?

Edit: oh I see, your saying that it makes the insiders right.
 
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So OsirisBlack OsirisBlack new DK is taller and not shorter? As in they went up larger in size, but black?

Now see that conflicts with what I heard but (hear me out) nothing was mentioned on scale. So it could be possible that a different black DK (which I assumed was a final DK form) is the same size as the old, and thus continues the older “issues”, but possibly if you’re saying larger that would explain why they are also cooler. Makes sense to me. Also heard nothing new, at all, about speeds. Interesting............ When did you hear this info?
PlayStation Series X CONFIRMED
 

LED Guy?

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I'm in the 11 to 12 boat myself, but how does the fact that the GitHub leak is presillicon make it 12 tf?

Edit: oh I see, your saying that it makes the insiders right.
Yup, because the ONLY thing that flies on the face of everyone that are saying that both consoles are the same is this info which some people are pushing it, which now turned out to be false.
 

Mr Moose

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This guy credible at all? Been seeing some people share his content



His source is mentioning Dual Database Processor? 2 Guerrilla Games? HZD 2 is apparently not ready for a reveal yet or something? Hm.

What's one of those?

I would think HZD2 would be close to gold by the time PS5 releases.
 

Disco_

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If both consoles get delayed, I suspect XsX’s delay will only be until May 2021, because they’ve already committed to a great number. Trying to change their great number requires a lot of marketing skill without it projecting insecurity (IMHO) if they haven't heard a better number from Cerny for the PS5 in the meantime. The longer the consoles delay, the harder it is for xbox to live with their great number, in case it has still fallen short by a distance; especially if Sony made it all the way to February 2021 without revealing PS5 specs. That type of time frame might allow them to revise their current position. That would leave Xbox with no concrete info on what Playstation was capable of releasing since the Pro – and the Pro wasn’t even Playstation going full tilt on the design of a half-gen refresh.
It is unthinkable we'd have to wait until Feb 2021 for Ps5 specs, but you wouldn't want to be the strategist at xbox, charged with predicting that figure, even for a free XsX and PS5.
Silicon is set. There's nothing sony would to have a meaningful compute increase.
 

3liteDragon

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So resume...

Silver DevKit: ~11.6TFs
Black DevKit: > 12TFs
Final form: ???

Remember Sony DevKits trend to have only RAM bigger than retail machine... CPU, GPU, clocks are all the same in the previous generation DevKits compared with retail machine.
Well, the final devkits are supposed to be shipped out in June or July right? Those are the ones that should be the closest to retail specs (excluding RAM).
Well, the evidence against GitHub has amassed considerably. Tim Dog responded btw...


lmfao
 
Related to this post few days ago :


OK, OK, we get it. We are frickin lunatics and pathetic in the same time. Btw. i love Twix. OsirisBlack OsirisBlack , btw. you're fake news. :p

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Anyway, Github believers really deserve a mockery
 
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Hatsuma

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Well, the final devkits are supposed to be shipped out in June or July right? Those are the ones that should be the closest to retail specs (excluding RAM).



lmfao


Lol, yea. Why isn't he yelling "9.2!!!" Saying the xsx is more powerful is a possibility. He was pushing not only that, but ps5 is 9.2 with immense confidence. Ah well...
 
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