Support NeoGAF

[Fbh]

Wow yeah that looks insane. Are there any direct feed gameplay videos?

Of the ones I've seen I'd go with Ratchet so far simply because it showed actual gameplay. As impressive as Horizon and Hellblade look in their cinematic trailers... it's still a cinematic trailer and I'll wait to see actual gameplay.

 

[CurtBizzy]

Hellblade 24fps 720p

 

[trapanesenyc]

Agree with the general consensus Hellblade & Flight Sim blow everything else out of the water but I think Project Mara belongs in that elite group too. I also thought Horizon looked very nice, but it's not in the same class as those 3.

Ninja theory is developing with black magic for these level of graphics.

 

[Redlancet]

Good luck of you think hellblade will look like that in game, people never learn

 

[CatLady]

I love the look of this game ❤

It looks nice and those little fuzzy black whatever they are so freaking cute. I don't think it's my kind of game but I do like the look of it.

 

[eastwood333]

Good luck of you think hellblade will look like that in game, people never learn

Hellblade is still a stunner on the PS4.

 

[CatLady]

Ninja theory is developing with black magic for these level of graphics.

Yeah Ninja theory was amazing before joining XGS and now with a AAA size team and MS money they are completely in a class of their own. I know there was some PR thing about The Initiative being AAAA, but I think that title rightfully belongs to Ninja Theory.

 

[MetalAlien]

Good luck of you think hellblade will look like that in game, people never learn

Will the gums look like that at least?

 

[Matsuchezz]

Are you really impressed with Project Mara? It is just a shiny Hallway and a stair, the human model looks real time, but it is not impressive. I really do not know what is impressive about it, nothing is going on.

 

[trapanesenyc]

Yeah Ninja theory was amazing before joining XGS and now with a AAA size team and MS money they are completely in a class of their own. I know there was some PR thing about The Initiative being AAAA, but I think that title rightfully belongs to Ninja Theory.

Production wise Hellblade was AAA with a AA budget. If their quality scales with money Hellblade might be the highest quality game well have out until maybe Naughty Dogs for next gen game.

 

[Redlancet]

Yeah Ninja theory was amazing before joining XGS and now with a AAA size team and MS money they are completely in a class of their own. I know there was some PR thing about The Initiative being AAAA, but I think that title rightfully belongs to Ninja Theory.

I dont want to rain on your parade, but things doesnt work that way, i always see the same arguments with money from that,game studios like Ninja doesnt work that way, you cant just influx people and money and expect your AA game to become a cgi movie, and yes the first hellblade was a AA Game, a good lookkng one, but pretty linear and short, and last time o checked Ninja theory havent grown too much, but time will tell

 

[Bodomism]

Please don't put Horizon 2 with hellblade 2 guys, take a look at the MC model for both games.

Look at the jaggies and artifacts on Alloy's face vs Senua lol.

Hellblade 2 is a tier above graphically

 

[Hendrick's]

Please don't put Horizon 2 with hellblade 2 guys, take a look at the MC model for both games.

Look at the jaggies and artifacts on Alloy's face vs Senua lol.

Hellblade 2 is a tier above graphically

We haven't seen gameplay from either so slow down.

 

[lastmessiah]

Please don't put Horizon 2 with hellblade 2 guys, take a look at the MC model for both games.

Look at the jaggies and artifacts on Alloy's face vs Senua lol.

Hellblade 2 is a tier above graphically

It does look very impressive. Just because it is in-engine doesn't mean it should be dismissed, in-engine visuals are still being rendered in real time.

 

[eastwood333]

I dont want to rain on your parade, but things doesnt work that way, i always see the same arguments with money from that,game studios like Ninja doesnt work that way, you cant just influx people and money and expect your AA game to become a cgi movie, and yes the first hellblade was a AA Game, a good lookkng one, but pretty linear and short, and last time o checked Ninja theory havent grown too much, but time will tell

They've confirmed to have doubled the team working on HB2 vs HB1. That's significant. That points to a game bigger in scope in all aspects.

 

[Hendrick's]

It does look very impressive. Just because it is in-engine doesn't mean it should be dismissed, in-engine visuals are still being rendered in real time.

If it's not playable then why should we care?

 

[lastmessiah]

If it's not playable then why should we care?

You don't have to care. I'm just saying it is an indication of what the GPU is capable of.

 

[Hendrick's]

You don't have to care. I'm just saying it is an indication of what the GPU is capable of.

But not what it's capable of in an actual game.

 

[thebigmanjosh]

 

[lastmessiah]

But not what it's capable of in an actual game.

If the GPU can render in-engine like that then one can extrapolate that in-game visuals will be impressive. It isn't a huge leap to make.

 

[Hendrick's]

If the GPU can render in-engine like that then one can extrapolate that in-game visuals will be impressive. It isn't a huge leap to make.

I remain skeptical.

 

[Dory16]

But not what it's capable of in an actual game.

I hope we see what it looks like in game at the July event. But even with a 15-20% downgrade it would remain an absolute stunner.
Flight sim however is a real game. I hope we get an XSX release date soon.

 

[Matsuchezz]

I think horizon looks better it has even more geometry, fish are moving all at once and lots of effects are being rendered more materials on display than hb2. If Guerrilla were to make a full close up as seen on hb they would match it and would out perform them. Guerilla has been known to be technical wizards since killzone 2 and every single game they have been able to top themselves time and time again. I recognize that ninja theory is capable but they have never been known to be technical Wizards.

 

[Dory16]

I think horizon looks better it has even more geometry, fish are moving all at once and lots of effects are being rendered more materials on display than hb2. If guerrila were to make a full close up as seen on hb they would match it and would out perform them. Guerilla has been known to be technical wizards since killzone 2 and every single game they have been able to top themselves time and time again. I recognize that ninja theory is capable but they have never been known to be technical
Wizards.

You know there's more in the Hellblade 2 trailer than that close up right?

 

[Matsuchezz]

You know there's more in the Hellblade 2 trailer than that close up right?

I believe the face is the only highlight of that trailer and maybe the sea. Nothing else is up there in quality.

 

[bender]

Nothing has left a bigger impression on me:

 

[Great Hair]

Technically speaking, sure. But there's more than just tech. 99% gonna die in front of their 22" monitors cuz they're bored to death.

"click a buttong to enter your shitty Cessna, than another buttong to water check, than another one to check the flaps, than another to check oil pressure, after that you click on a buttong to check if the radio is on" 25 min later, still doing all the check-ins.

What majestic piece of utter beautiful boredom. Zzzzzzzzzzz are we there yet? Don't hit your keyboard too hard on your fall.

Wanna bet that it will remain PC exclusive? How the ef are they going to map 1,276 actions, buttons to the gamepad? That won't sell jackshit on a console.

It's currently just their ace card on various forums, to show off.

 

[bender]

Technically speaking, sure. But there's more than just tech. 99% gonna die in front of their 22" monitors cuz they're bored to death.

"click a buttong to enter your shitty Cessna, than another buttong to water check, than another one to check the flaps, than another to check oil pressure, after that you click on a buttong to check if the radio is on" 25 min later, still doing all the check-ins.

What majestic piece of utter beautiful boredom. Zzzzzzzzzzz are we there yet? Don't hit your keyboard too hard on your fall.

Wanna bet that it will remain PC exclusive? How the ef are they going to map 1,276 actions, buttons to the gamepad? That won't sell jackshit on a console.

It's currently just their ace card on various forums, to show off.

I was actually going to ask if it was coming to Xbox. I'd do a 180 on Series X and get one as soon as it releases.

 

[Journey]

In terms of art direction Scorn is my favorite so far. As a horror fan I like the Lovecraftian H.R. Giger inspiration and the devs' commitment to making the game as deranged and disturbing as possible.

This game creeps me out

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Wow Holy Shit. Where do i start?

MS:

Hellblade 2 blew my knickers clean off
Not seen anything since that has impresssed me from MS so will tune into their event next month with clean diapers because i'm sure their studios will make me shit a few bricks.

Sony:

Ratchet brought a tear to my eye. So beautiful and in full native 4K to boot.
Horizon looks so clean.
Gran Turismo 7 looks good though some parts are a little underwhelming especially trackside detail. I mean im not expecting full on highly detailed 3D trees but atleast something that looks on par or maybe a step below the detailed car models.

All in all we have yet to see big studios like Naughty Dog, Coalition, Kojima Productions, Turn 10, Playground games etc.

1st wave of games look great. Can't wait to see 2nd wave where i feel next gen will really start to look the part.

This game creeps me out

Yep. It's like everything has had its skin removed. The dude in the screenshot is in dire need of a skin graft. Can't be walking around like that with soft tissue and veins and shit exposed. Also the creator behind this game needs to see a priest.

 

[Dory16]

I believe the face is the only highlight of that trailer and maybe the sea. Nothing else is up there in quality.

The crowd gathered at night holding torches for the human sacrifice looks real. There are literally trailer reactions from the game awards audience on youtube where you can hear people asking if it's real although Spencer insisted it was in-engine. As a matter of fact just look at the Digital Foundry analysis of that trailer. Battaglia is doubting that current retail GPU technology can produce that type of non pre rendered graphics and we'll agree that he's seen some impressive graphics in his days coming from a PC background.

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

Flight Simulator is unreal man. Not just graphics-wise, but with everything they're doing. They've reconstructed the entire Earth and have thousands of airports modeled. It's insanely awesome.

My problem with fligh sim, is you don't technically own it from what I gather. It's two petabytes in the cloud. Not sure how MS will even manage to provide simultaneous access to two petabytes to millions of consumers at the same time.... I'd expect heavy server loads and downtime.

horizon 2 looks like horizon 1 on max settings nothing impressive or cgi looking

Look at the jaggies and artifacts on Alloy's face vs Senua lol.

Those are not jaggies mate, that's peach fuzz.

Don't mistake additional details being rendered for errors.

Oh damn...This shit isn't aliasing or compression blocking, it's rendered peach fuzz. How many whole generations of hardware in terms of poly count or memory are surpassed just by fuzz rendering here?

this.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Thank you for posting.

Love both these showings. Hellblade 2 trailer still blows me away.

horizon 2 looks like horizon 1 on max settings nothing impressive or cgi looking

Consider that Horizon 2 is an open world title. You're not going to get Hellblade 2 level visual fidelity with an open world game but for what Horizon 2 is at the moment, is pretty impressive and at native 4K.

 

[Ceadeus]

Pretty sure Crysis could be played in the cockpit monitor while playing this game simultaneously

 

[Romulus]

Just the vastness of the world, the lighting at over 60fps is incredible

 

[Matsuchezz]

The crowd gathered at night holding torches for the human sacrifice looks real. There are literally trailer reactions from the game awards audience on youtube where you can hear people asking if it's real although Spencer insisted it was in-engine. As a matter of fact just look at the Digital Foundry analysis of that trailer. Battaglia is doubting that current retail GPU technology can produce that type of non pre rendered graphics and we'll agree that he's seen some impressive graphics in his days coming from a PC background.

I just rewatched the trailer and the crowd it is really not detailed at all, the character that is standing at the left has little detail on his clothes, and it looks like they are all the same model,, if they were at the same level of Detail as Senua i would be impressed but they are not. On the same video you shared take a look at all the characters in the order, they are highly detailed all at once in the same scene, that is impressive, the crowd in HB2 clearly is not.

 

[lastmessiah]

My problem with fligh sim, is you don't technically own it from what I gather. It's two petabytes in the cloud. Not sure how MS will even manage to provide simultaneous access to two petabytes to millions of consumers at the same time.... I'd expect heavy server loads and downtime.

You will need a strong broadband connection for sure, which fortunately I have.

 

[Dory16]

I just rewatched the trailer and the crowd it is really not detailed at all, the character that is standing at the left has little detail on his clothes, and it looks like they are all the same model,, if they were at the same level of Detail as Senua i would be impressed but they are not. On the same video you shared take a look at all the characters in the order, they are highly detailed all at once in the same scene, that is impressive, the crowd in HB2 clearly is not.

Digital Foundry thinks it's too good to be true and you think it's not detailed enough. What else can I add?
Your opinion is respected.

 

[Bryank75]

Gotta be this for me, here's some more

I'm not even a R&C fan

I'd put this over flight sim and Hellblade. I think Halo could be impressive when we see gameplay.

Agree.... Kena, R&C (I am a fan) , Horizon, Project Athia and Returnal all looked great to me. Returnal reminded me of Alien a bit....

 

[and 3 others]

I get MS bought Ninja Theory, it just upsets me that I can't play the sequel without an Xbox since I loved the 1st one soo much.

 

[Entroyp]

Indeed, it looks incredible

 

[Jtibh]

I wanna lick Senua's gums!

 

[Entroyp]

I get MS bought Ninja Theory, it just upsets me that I can't play the sequel without an Xbox since I loved the 1st one soo much.

PC is a viable option, but that might be way more expensive than just getting an XsX.

 

[and 3 others]

PC is a viable option, but that might be way more expensive than just getting an XsX.

I did PC early 2000's, then got back into PC about 4 years ago. I just don't like it. Gonna be a console pleb for life.

 

[CatLady]

I get MS bought Ninja Theory, it just upsets me that I can't play the sequel without an Xbox since I loved the 1st one soo much.

It will be on PC too and most likely even on Game Pass PC.

 

[Matsuchezz]

Digital Foundry thinks it's too good to be true and you think it's not detailed enough. What else can I add?
Your opinion is respected.

He said he believes it is pre-rendered, i think so too. I respect your opinion too, I am not trying to pass what i think as the universal truth. I believe it looks cool and it is pretty, we will see when the game is released.

 

[Krappadizzle]

I get MS bought Ninja Theory, it just upsets me that I can't play the sequel without an Xbox since I loved the 1st one soo much.

Uh...It's still coming to the biggest platform in the world:

 

[and 3 others]

Uh...It's still coming to the biggest platform in the world:

Already answered.

 

[BlitzerRadic]

I was impressed by Horizon 2. That clip of the turtle emerging from the pond - the lighting, density, cloud simulation, physics, and the freaking water simulation... there is so much going on in that 15 seconds.

 

[xellos2099alpha]

Nothing too impressive really.... atm nothing beat the first time i ever set sight on soul calibur on dreamcast.... i think my jaw hit the floor for that