ManaByte
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PS5 reportedly won’t have its own Xbox Smart Delivery alternative | VGC
Sony will reportedly leave upgrade programs to third-party publishers…
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PS5 reportedly won’t have its own Xbox Smart Delivery alternative
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LostDonkey
Member
Kerching kerching kerching $$$
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It’s called Cross Buy, they have had it since the PS3 and always left it up to them.
Just like Microsoft is leaving it up to the third parties as well. You can’t force them, but I guess you can financially assist them through marketing deals and the like.
Just like Microsoft is leaving it up to the third parties as well. You can’t force them, but I guess you can financially assist them through marketing deals and the like.
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Tiamat2san
Member
Bummer...
They need to provide upgrades for their first party games.
They need to provide upgrades for their first party games.
ethomaz
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Doesn't Smart Delivery support retail games as well though.
I know cross buy allows you to have access to multiple versions of a digital game. In fact I was happy to find out my copy of Journey from PS3 was cross buy with PS4 version. Same with some SNK Vita games being cross buy on PS4.
The thing is I've never seen a cross buy retail gane. Pop in a PS3 disk inside a PS4 to be able to have access to a PS4 version. Do you have any examples of this is you are implying Cross Buy is the same as Smart Delivery which has this feature.
bitbydeath
Member
As already mentioned Cross-Buy is the equivalent and some 3rd party devs have even said they will be supporting it.
www.theverge.com
Bungie details Destiny 2’s next-gen future, including free PS5 and Xbox Series X upgrades
Along with 60fps and 4K gameplay
www.theverge.com
JLB
Banned
Smart Delivery is more than that, it's a technical solution for companies wiling to offer cross buy. My understanding of this is that third parties should deal with this on its own.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
It's like PC basically since forever.
ethomaz
Banned
How do you say that about the exclusive Smart Delivery...
The Hamburglar
Banned
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
edit: I was wrong
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Mr Moose
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
That's news to me it supports disc. I've never heard of a disc game coming with cross buy support tho. Must not be a lot of titles?
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
It's MS and dumb name for something which they called "Enhancement patch" before. But in all fairness, with PC direct X is kind of why it was possible.
Open GL fine, but it was pretty limited in support and also MS was part of that consortium too. Vulkan is more like Direct X.
Mr Moose
Member
It's the same with Smart Delivery, the publishers decide. EA will be the ones that will probably say "fuck off, you have 2 weeks to upgrade".
This isn't BC, its the opposite of that, plus PS5 has BC with PS4...
Smart Delivery gives you the Xbox Series X version of the game.
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Good info. I stand corrected.
The Hamburglar
Banned
More fud
Mr Moose
Member
The good thing about Smart Delivery (the actual smart part IMO) is the cross-saves, so you can continue where you left off from your Xbox One to your Series X.
I have no idea if this feature applies to the Sony cross-gen games.
ethomaz
Banned
From the top of my mind.
Sly Cooper 4
R&C Full Frontal Assault
PS All-Stars
Maybe there is more... I don't know.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You didn't get the MCC Halo 3 version owning the 360 one either at the time.
Did they probably take advantage of the situation due the architecture shift? Sure. Again, as did MS with MCC. But as this new gen is now all under the same ecosystem, and BC will be there for both, I would imagine the same steps will follow.
ethomaz
Banned
It applies.
An example... I brought Sound Shape for PS3 and got Platinum.
After I used the Cross-buy to download these games on Vita and PS4 and the cross-save to pop up all trophies on Vita and PS4.
So I have 3 Platinum when I just played on PS3.
You need to choose to sync the save... that I found good because that way it won't replace your local save without you know.
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I've never had more than one Sony platform in my house at a time so I can't comment. The cross save from PC to Xbox is nice when it works but not ever game supports it.
lastmessiah
Member
I personally think there's no way Sony is going to forego TLOU2 PS5 sales.
Vasto
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
People don't realize it's the exact same thing, just different marketing names.
Sony uses a traditional name that almost all entertainment uses, MS made a new name with the whole "smart" phone type linguistics and are selling this to people as if it's new and inventive. That is good marketing, sly, but good.
aNd nEiThEr hAs mICrOsOfT with your same semantics.
Read the damned thread, many examples have been provided. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
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Zekra Dezivad
Member
It was rare, but existed.
PS All Star on PS3 supported Cross buy on retail. You had the digital license of the PSVita version on the bluray.
Iirc also Ratchet & Clank Q Force had cross buy for the retail PS3 and digital Vita version.
I suppose it didn't had too much success back then bc it became rarer and rarer
ethomaz
Banned
MS is basically trying things now that Sony tried without enough success (it not increased sales of these titles) a decade ago.
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MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
Xbox does all the technical work on their end. Sony leaves everything up to the developer. They’re two totally different services. So yeah, if the developer has to put the effort into making the game work and enhanced on a platform vs the other, they’re gonna charge for the work they’ve done.
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Vasto
Member
LMAO, nobody is saying Microsoft has already been doing Smart Delivery. You read the damn thread.
ethomaz
Banned
I believe it is up to developer on MS side too.
lastmessiah
Member
Not for the technical work. If the publisher decides to not support Smart Delivery, it is only because they arbitrarily decided not to.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
What "technical work?" It's no different than now, when you buy and X1X and the game uses that profile (or a Pro over the PS4). Guess what, Cyberpunk... will just be the XSX upgrade profile, just as the X1X is the upgrade profile of the base XB1. You are all falling for some silly shit.
The Hamburglar
Banned
Lmao even Xbox has said if you buy cyberpunk on xbox1 you can play it through BC on series x but you will have to wait for CDred to release an updated version of the game for series x..
Keep falling for that PR
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ethomaz
Banned
What technical work?
You need to port or patch your game for the new hardware.
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ManaByte
Member
LMAO, nobody is saying Microsoft has already been doing Smart Delivery. You read the damn thread.
They have been doing it ever since they launched the Xbox One X. When you download a game it checks if you're on an OG Xbox One, Xbox One S, or Xbox One X and there are different asset packages for all of those. You can see those in the debug screens to see which ones are installed.
How to download Xbox One X 4K game assets on your regular Xbox One
With the Xbox One X around the corner, the regular old Xbox One will allow you to begin preparing for the big day by downloading 4K assets in advance.
www.windowscentral.com
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
That’s a separate sku, it’s completely different. Control is doing the same thing. They’re probably going to bundle DLC and add features not supported in the base game aka RTX. Microsoft isn’t going to reprogram the game for them, but they’re going to make sure it runs at a stable 60fps, or native 4K resolution if it doesn’t.
lastmessiah
Member
All the developers have to do is turn it on, it is just a flipped switch, Then the Xbox OS will read the file and automatically upgrade to the XSX version.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
LMAO, nobody is saying Microsoft has already been doing Smart Delivery. You read the damn thread.
My goodness.
They have been doing it ever since they launched the Xbox One X. When you download a game it checks if you're on an OG Xbox One, Xbox One S, or Xbox One X and there are different asset packages for all of those. You can see those in the debug screens to see which ones are installed.
How to download Xbox One X 4K game assets on your regular Xbox One
With the Xbox One X around the corner, the regular old Xbox One will allow you to begin preparing for the big day by downloading 4K assets in advance.
Just like the PS4 to the PS4Pro as well. "Mid Gen Refresh" profiles.
Like I said, you are falling for a marketing term for what is essentially what they have always been doing. To make it easier to understand, just look at the XSX as a super beastly refresh in the same ecosystem, same for the PS5 for the "cross gen" games.
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ethomaz
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Zekra Dezivad
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The fact that Vita wasn't a successful platform sure didn't help. On PS4-PS5 people would care, but I'm sure that every developer and publisher is free to offer cross buy titles.
I just think that Microsoft is actually paying incentives to some developers, while Sony seem more reluctant to do so.