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One specific person assumes PS5 3rd Party Devs Are Finding Hardware Troublesome™, “Sony Too” May be Common
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dispensergoinup
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holy shit that title change lol
Ass of Can Whooping
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This is getting ridiculous
Sony needs to cancel the fudstation 5.
Sony needs to cancel the fudstation 5.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
He has never changed over the years. Only thing he was good for was the "summer games fest" stuff being fed to him by PR teams.
He's always been this way. He was just more tame when being fed PR for the summer game announcements.
The well is dry, so back to the old.
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Men_in_Boxes
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Is NeoGAF attempting to discredit the mighty Jeff Grubb?
Who do you people think you are?
Who do you people think you are?
Bryank75
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Insight? you mean... 'inshite'
Bryank75
Banned
Yet everything running on PC for competing systems.... as pointed out in a recent DF.
Mr. PlayStation
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It was review tech usa with concern trolling and fake fuds saying PS4 was struggling etc from to mr grubbsman saying same shit but this time for PS5. These people never change huh.
GHG
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Coulomb_Barrier
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Xbox fanboys and shills: "Series X is more powerful, we can't show it but please believe us won't you"
GetemMa
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Lots of insecurity being expressed in this thread. We went through this with current gen consoles. There were Lots of pre-launch rumors that PS4 was more powerful than Xbone and that was definitely the case. Oh well, looks like PS5 is gonna rely on feux 4K. I don't think it really matters when games start coming out. I sort of wish Sony would have used all that Moneyhatting money to beef up the GPU or the minimal storage that can't be expanded. I think Sony clearly has a greater mindshare and slightly more attractive launch software. The only thing that MS can do is undercut them on price. Native 4K isn't a giant selling point IMO.
DarkMage619
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Well people will believe what they want. When developers were saying that the PS5 was easier to develop for and better over all than XSX people here ate it up. Now some developers are saying they are having problems with PS5 development and people here are simply dismissing it or saying MS paid them off or posting Craig memes. One thing is clear; Sony's strategy of paying 3rd parties for timed exclusives will be a quick and easy way to beat back any XSX advantage. Think Destiny 1 and 2. Just pay them to not make the game on the XSX or make it so late it won't matter. It tough but since its Sony its more than fair. Call it the PlayStation Advantage. Should be an interesting generation.
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NullZ3r0
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Now we know why Sony is backing up the Brinks truck into lobbies of 3rd party developers.
They know they're going to lose the head to head comparisons and so need a differentiator to sell their console. So we're going to see exclusive characters, skins and weapons.
Both Sony and MS will be relying heavily on 3rd party games this holiday and Spiderman DLC and Bugsnax isn't enough to push units.
They know they're going to lose the head to head comparisons and so need a differentiator to sell their console. So we're going to see exclusive characters, skins and weapons.
Both Sony and MS will be relying heavily on 3rd party games this holiday and Spiderman DLC and Bugsnax isn't enough to push units.
Trogdor1123
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Isn't this the exact opposite of what we have heard so far?
Empire Strikes Back
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I don't know, I don't think devs would say the PS5 is the easiest console they have ever worked with if Smart Shift was a problem.
NullZ3r0
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Another concern you tuber / journalist giving opinion.
Glad we can see the games for ourselves . 4k60 and RT, and yet insiders say trouble...
Whatever.
Photo mode looks dope, don't it?
chilichote
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Yes. And based on "i think" and "my understanding". He is not a dev. Only a attention whore.
GHG
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The end of this year is going to be hard on some of you.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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You have no idea what you're talking about
Bugsnax will be the most important video game release since pong
Quote me on that
oldergamer
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...or sony could just downclock and disable smartshift.
Gamerguy84
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Arent PS5 devkits locked at fixed frequencies. If thats the case developers arent dealing with smartshift.
GHG
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Why don't you make your phone's processor stay at it's base clocks?
It might prevent you from posting nonsense.
JonnyMP3
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I seem to be triggering people because I've made it known that 'Smartshift' isn't a Sony tech.
It's just facts. It's an AMD tech built into their modern CPUs and GPUs or as consoles are, an APU.
It's just facts. It's an AMD tech built into their modern CPUs and GPUs or as consoles are, an APU.
Handy Fake
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They have a set of power profiles for optimisation. The dev kits don't have Smartshift, no.
Empire Strikes Back
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Yeah, Cerny already said that devkits support fixed frequencies to help developers optmize better, but hey, it's not FUD so it doesn't matter.
oldergamer
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Did sony show anything that looked like that?? no. Also it was a tech demo, not a game. There's a big difference.
Handy Fake
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Exactly aye, I can't understand why devs would be having trouble with it when a) they don't have it and b) it's automatic and runs on its own.
oldergamer
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You think that is all it takes?
Coulomb_Barrier
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Lool that thread title change. Sums it up perfectly 
MasterCornholio
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Do you know what will happen if you witness the power of the Series X?
Mortal eyes can't view it's power!!!!!
Dr Bass
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Because the nature of certain news belies simple facts and reasoning.
1. Sony has a decades long history of producing solid to best in class gaming hardware and having a great library of software to go with it.
2. Sony has been extremely developer friendly with the PS4 and is looking to continue that trend with PS5
3. Microsoft for the past 7+ years has been promising on things it never delivers in terms of software.
So when we get news that PS5 is even easier to work with than PS4, when Sony straight up said that was a goal during development, we can believe it.
When we see the specs and we see that the systems are pretty close with some advantages on one side and some on the other, cool. Those are the facts.
So now when we get news that the PS5 is "troublesome" and it has difficult "running games" at both 1080 AND 4k when we have directly captured video evidence showing this is not true, it is incredibly easy to dismiss this news.
When we have a video from the best graphics company in the world, running directly on PS5, showing basically the most impressive real time graphics ever seen (outside of maybe that stormtrooper Nvidia raytracing demo that ran on like 4 high end cards), it's easy to dismiss the aforementioned "bad news".
Also it's not developers saying there are problems. It's just some dude reading the word "variable" and trying to spread some FUD.
Sony isn't about to get caught with its pants down on their hardware months from launch with a bunch of great stuff already shown. We've seen it. It looks great. Why people are trying to spread rumors that it's this "troublesome" piece of hardware is beyond me, other than trying to get some bad news out there to try and stymie the excitement for it because they are in the tank for someone else. It's straight up lying. so what else could be the motivation?
It was a real time playable game demo. Of course it's not a full game otherwise they would be selling it. There isn't a "big difference", only in the amount of content needed. Sony isn't selling a game that looks like that at launch because the engine won't be released until next year and after that you will see games on PS5 (and Xbox!) that look like this. Don't be obtuse.
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BlueXImpulse
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PS5 is doing just fine. But I agree XsX needs to be released next year because no Halo or software being shown running on XsX hardware is concerning
VALCON 82
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Neither can 343iDo you know what will happen if you witness the power of the Series X?
Mortal eyes can't view it's power!!!!!
GlassAwful
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So let me get this straight, everything Jeff has said up to this very moment has been 100% accurate truth and gospel, but now that he's indicated sources tell him they're having trouble with early games on PS5, he's an Xbox discord FUD spreader bought and paid for directly by Phil Spencer?
Have I about summed up the current situation?
Have I about summed up the current situation?
Insane Metal
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Nice title change. Lol
DunDunDunpachi
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Not really. He passed off speculation as "inside" info and then later retracted it, without qualification.
Handy Fake
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He'll have got it from the Dusk Golem post is all.
Mr Moose
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Or re-read what you quoted.
splattered
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