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[Coulomb_Barrier]

Thats exactly whats happening here and its so transparent.

What's funny is this:

- 'PS5 struggles with 4K'
- 'Series X runs 4K flawlessly'

Yet PS5 is the console we've seen running multiple graphically impressive 4K games and Series X has been shown running precisely F all! The depths of fear and desperation the PS5 is provoking is startling.

 

[kretos]

"possible" "could"

then ask devs to reach out, these people don't know shit

 

[zaitsu]

Tbh i want to know the truth, because its possible that even if PS5 is easiest console ever to learn its still need time to do it in compare to XSX being nothing more than XOX 2.0.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

Did ... did he just link a news article which ... quotes his own statement as a way to validate that very same statement?

And ... Dusk Golem's rumors count as developer statements now?

mr grubber is ingenious in his methods to smear the PS5 isn't he? But he says so without making it look blatant like also saying subtle things like amd smart shift isn't the cell situation or that people will figure things out rather than just say it's going to be all hell from here on out until the end of this gen. snarky man mr greff!

 

[sircaw]

People can say what they want about this generation. Win or lose, whatever.

However, you need to give it to Microsoft PR + fanboys on all the bullshit they sow. They are fucking masters of Fud.

There is no arguing it, Microsoft walk all over Sony in this department.

 

[Nickolaidas]

There have been talks that sircaw is an asshole, according to some tweets that have started circulating the web.

 

[Neo Blaster]

Ok, given Xbox current situation, looks like the Discord gang will hit full cylinders on PS5 FUD in the next weeks. Better get prepared:

P.S.: when did Jeff Grubb become a shill?

 

[Three Jackdaws]

I find the timing of this information really suspicious, I mean it’s only spreading straight after the Halo Infinite delay announcement. But I think I’m just being crazy.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Wow. So a screenshot appears that showcases raytracing but already there's a problem?

The PS5 is nowhere near as weak as people seem to think it is. It can do raytracing. The gap between the two systems isn't that astronomical.

Its time to stop the mudslinging anytime something comes out to show the aforementioned statements are probably quite true.

PS5 is the only next gen console that is proven to be capable of ray tracing in real games. Other consoles could not achieve RT on a last gen shooter.

 

[sircaw]

There have been talks that sircaw is an asshole, according to some tweets that have started circulating the web.

FINALLY SOME FUCKING TRUTH.

Wait umm FFS

 

[FeiRR]

Tbh i want to know the truth, because its possible that even if PS5 is easiest console ever to learn its still need time to do it in compare to XSX being nothing more than XOX 2.0.

DX12U is a new iteration. There are some learning curves, too. Being a game dev is a difficult job because what you know becomes outdated in months.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Where has Jeff Grubb come from, seriously? I've never heard his name until a month back.

And I've just realised, isn't he low-key trolling that Grubsnax game with his Twitter handle? Similar sort of behaviour that Xbox fanboys have been using with that game? Are we meant to take him seriously?

 

[mejin]

Oh, he's assuming devs know him...I hope he's getting good money to play dumb.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I'd temper my expectations for that Spiderman stuff; we know Sony shows things "running on PS5" that aren't real time rendered.

Looks fucking beautiful either way though.

IF that is real time.. ho-ly shit.. but it's a big if.

 

[SportsFan581]

People can say what they want about this generation. Win or lose, whatever.

However, you need to give it to Microsoft PR + fanboys on all the bullshit they sow. They are fucking masters of Fud.

There is no arguing it, Microsoft walk all over Sony in this department.

I'm really offended, but kind of proud at the same time.

 

[FeiRR]

Where has Jeff Grubb come from, seriously? I've never heard his name until a month back.

I'll just drop it here: https://venturebeat.com/2020/08/10/why-the-xbox-series-s-is-such-a-smart-move-by-microsoft/

 

[MasterCornholio]

Ok, given Xbox current situation, looks like the Discord gang will hit full cylinders on PS5 FUD in the next weeks. Better get prepared:

P.S.: when did Jeff Grubb become a shill?

I see you found own of my followers.

He's following my most important commandment.

"Thou shall always have TP for thy bunghole present"

 

[sircaw]

I'm really offended, but kind of proud at the same time.

And that's why I like you, you have a sense of humor,

plus I wanna see a ps5 added to that avatar of yours. You know you wanna.

If you do, you can sit with the cool kids on the bus, I will be driving it, right of a cliff.

Do you see what Nickolaidas called me, SHAMEFUL? and people are leaving thimbs up and smilies.

You think you have it hard, sigh

 

[ksdixon]

What's funny is this:

- 'PS5 struggles with 4K'
- 'Series X runs 4K flawlessly'

Yet PS5 is the console we've seen running multiple graphically impressive 4K games and Series X has been shown running precisely F all! The depths of fear and desperation the PS5 is provoking is startling.

I'm getting really sick of XB stans shouting from the rooftops, despite actual tangiable results having been said in interviews and shown in trailers.

PS is the one showing good-looking actual gameplay on hardware or devkits. XB is showing ass-looking ''gameplay'' on high-end PCs.

Sony/Other developers or engine makers are the ones saying Sony have leapfrogged traditional tech and will inform future PC develpmment for RDNA 3, which is still years away. XB fans see this and... somehow... say "PS5 is obviously RDNA 1.5."

It's absolutely pathetic. Can Sony please start releasing more information or showing more PS5 games, because I'm sick of hearing XB fans. No one is scared of XB, guys. It's DEAD LAST behind PC, PS and SWITCH in terms of playerbases and probably sales too, FFS.

EDIT: I forgot STADIA. Which is basically MS's end-goal for GamePass/XCloud/XB Gaming as a service. Congrats, fellas.

 

[zaitsu]

DX12U is a new iteration. There are some learning curves, too. Being a game dev is a difficult job because what you know becomes outdated in months.

Just like in medicine, new guidelines all the time.

 

[Insane Metal]

There have been talks that sircaw is an asshole, according to some tweets that have started circulating the web.

 

[SSfox]

Wow this looks clean AF, you can see there is a step up from the actual gen as much as Spiderman PS4 already looks stunning, if a launch game will look like this can't imagine how games will looks 1- 2 years after.

I hope Rocksteady won't disapoint on 22/8, some dope DC game with render close to this already making me excited, i just hope their game will be something awesome and not just some random GAAS as rumours says.

 

[Nickolaidas]

WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?!?!?!

 

[Apollo Helios]

Well I really don't expect Sony to stoop so low and announce something soon even in response to all these BS. I like Sony silent, MS apparently is shitting their pants if their PR is running on all cylinders like it seemingly is right now.

As amazing Jim Ryan has said, "we are going to let our games do the talking"...
Jesus isn't Sony a class-act! MS on the other hand is like just a bit more successful Trump-personified-Corp.

 

[ksdixon]

People can say what they want about this generation. Win or lose, whatever.

However, you need to give it to Microsoft PR + fanboys on all the bullshit they sow. They are fucking masters of Fud.

There is no arguing it, Microsoft walk all over Sony in this department.

That's because you can't reason with stupid.

Things get latched-onto no matter how opposite they stand in comparison to facts (said or shown). You know, like "MS is removing the GOLD subscription", even though all they did was remove the 12 month option, which means you pay more money for the same amount of time. And they eat it up with a damn smile.

How many moving-of-the-goalposts/FUD have we seen already?
"PS5 can't do 4k-60fps", "is RDNA 1.5", "has no VRS", "has no RayTracing"... and whatever other examples of FUD have been shouted around.

Meanwhile... here's Sony:

*PS5 logo*....
*PS5 controller picture*...
and the internet fucking explodes!
What was it said to be? The two most liked gaming-related InstaGram photos ever?

I would say "sit down, shut up, and let the games speak for themselves", but then again I think Halo Infinate already did.

 

[kyliethicc]

Where has Jeff Grubb come from, seriously? I've never heard his name until a month back.

And I've just realised, isn't he low-key trolling that Grubsnax game with his Twitter handle? Similar sort of behaviour that Xbox fanboys have been using with that game? Are we meant to take him seriously?

He’s a known troll. Geoff’s Summer Game Fest w/ Jeff’s Summer Game Mess, etc.

This guy wrote an “article” trolling back in 2018 saying how God of War 2018 was better than Mario Odyssey because of how much better Kratos’ nipples look than Mario’s. He has zero technical knowledge or useful insight, he just makes jokes. Jokers are not to be taken too seriously.

I wouldn’t recommend really caring about what he says on gaming, he’s mostly just a troll. Which is fine, I enjoy trolling too from time to time.

 

[DarthMurgus]

 

[saintjules]

Maybe they'll get the reflections on the Buildings fixed in the new game lol.

 

[raul3d]

I'm really starting to get irritated by this whole charade....

Now he is either trolling or just an idiot. The reveal trailer already included raytraced reflections and this shot does aswell, there are clearly reflections of things not visible in screenspace (behind his right feet and below him).

So that bellend who was sharing the information about RE8 struggling to run on PS5 with 4K has also tweeted that he's been hearing from other developers that the PS5 is struggling to run other games on 4K as well. He's also stated that Series X will have no problem with 4K and that it will be cheaper than the PS5 and this was told to him as well. I don't want to share his tweets because I don't want to give him that attention.

When comparing what we know about both consoles, I cannot think about a single component that would be significatly more expensive on PS5. The APU is smaller, it has less NAND (probably of a similar quality), no/fewer license fews for the SSD, fewer RAM chips, higher volume contracts.. not to say that it could not happen, but it would be really odd.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Well I really don't expect Sony to stoop so low and announce something soon even in response to all these BS.

 

[sircaw]

Tweet won't load cry!

IT BETTER HAVE BEEN NICE. Had a lot of abuse today. I am sensitive.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Tweet won't load cry!

IT BETTER HAVE BEEN NICE. Had a lot of abuse today. I am sensitive.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

I'd temper my expectations for that Spiderman stuff; we know Sony shows things "running on PS5" that aren't real time rendered.

Looks fucking beautiful either way though.

IF that is real time.. ho-ly shit.. but it's a big if.

classic concern troll. God of War, last of us part 2, ghost of tsushima, death stranding, horizon zero dawn, detroit become human, uncharted 4, spider-man all looked insane in their retail release. There's no reason why miles morales wouldn't look that good, it's made by a talented team working on a powerful platform!

 

[sircaw]

Trying to choke me i see. TYPICAL response.

Violence, your worse than AeneaGames

 

[IntentionalPun]

classic concern troll. God of War, last of us part 2, ghost of tsushima, death stranding, horizon zero dawn, detroit become human, uncharted 4, spider-man all looked insane in their retail release. There's no reason why miles morales wouldn't look that good, it's made by a talented team working on a powerful platform!

Classic fanboy can't handle someone being reasonably skeptical.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

Classic fanboy can't handle someone being reasonably skeptical.

reasonably skeptical may be at one instance was okay and understandable. But being a skeptic throughout a generation of a console despite the console consistently delivering on graphics let alone amazing games in general is just baffling to see.

 

[sircaw]

Classic fanboy can't handle someone being reasonably skeptical.

STop it you, you female Phil thing, I get it, a Philistine perhaps

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

I'm not even sure what issues Jeff thinks devs will have with SmartShift? Isn't that something automated and managed by the system along with the variable clocks? Devs will have fixed profile clocks they can choose from to optimise to/against?

Also isn't the variable clock system separate from SmartShift which only shifts electrical power between GPU and CPU?

 

[Nickolaidas]

Classic fanboy can't handle someone being reasonably skeptical.

I dunno, man ... I mean, don't the pics below show a reasonable gen jump? If anything, it's a taste of things to come.

PS5:

 

[FeiRR]

I'm not even sure what issues Jeff thinks devs will have with SmartShift? Isn't that something automated and managed by the system along with the variable clocks? Devs will have fixed profile clocks they can choose from to optimise to/against?

Also isn't the variable clock system separate from SmartShift which only shifts electrical power between GPU and CPU?

There are people out there burning 5G towers because those "cause Covid". It's the same fear of unknown scheme known in psychology, just different scale.

 

[Md Ray]

I dunno, man ... I mean, don't the pics below show a reasonable gen jump? If anything, it's a taste of things to come.

PS5:

This is so cool.

 

[Zzpaff]

there's one thing xbox leaders are very good at. tie their hands every time they open their mouth, it's magic...

 

[sircaw]

This is so cool.

Is that really in-game, i mean it can't be can it, its so beautiful. When I double click it, zoom it's breathtaking.
It even looks better than rachet and clank to me and i thought that was super sexy.

I can't tell any more

HELP!

 

[FunkMiller]

There have been talks that sircaw is an asshole, according to some tweets that have started circulating the web.

 

[Apollo Helios]

This was right after announcing dates, prices and opening pre-orders, that point is when all is free game, there is no secret and you can go all-in with whatever you had up to that point in terms of policies and marketing. And believe me this was one of their kill-shots, they obliterated MS right then and there that day. And I expect the same this time around.

Right now, much is unknown and using these fake 'insiders' and/or unprofessional 'journalists' in your PR either openly or secretly (but we all know how instantaneously they run to MS aid after their many blunders, so in fact not so secretly) is just punching below the waist, kicking balls unsportsmanlike. So while MS deserve a response-in-kind, Sony is not pouncing on it. They could be all over MS in similar strategies, but we know they will just go for the kill shot like they did in the past. That's why I'm at least trying to stay calm (not easy always), and actually quite comfortable in knowing Sony has the better hardware AND software this time around too.

I know these are just baits for people to make them start asking Sony for bones to throw, when we all know Sony is just laying on its treasure like a dragon biding his time. The giant treasure is there, we just don't know the content. MS is either sitting on a pile of pretty much nothing and only have what they have already shown, or the stuff down the line is coming up too little and too little.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

There are people out there burning 5G towers because those "cause Covid". It's the same fear of unknown scheme known in psychology, just different scale.

I would hope it isn't that bad but it never ceases to amaze me how technologically dumb many of the game reporters/commentators are. I say that as someone that doesn't consider themselves a tech expert, just basic knowledge.

 

[xHunter]

What's funny is this:

- 'PS5 struggles with 4K'
- 'Series X runs 4K flawlessly'

Yet PS5 is the console we've seen running multiple graphically impressive 4K games and Series X has been shown running precisely F all! The depths of fear and desperation the PS5 is provoking is startling.

It runs so good you wouldnt even believe it. Thats why they use middle ranged PCs, so you wont get a heart attack

 

[ksdixon]

This was right after announcing dates, prices and opening pre-orders, that point is when all is free game, there is no secret and you can go all-in with whatever you had up to that point in terms of policies and marketing. And believe me this was one of their kill-shots, they obliterated MS right then and there that day. And I expect the same this time around.

Right now, much is unknown and using these fake 'insiders' and/or unprofessional 'journalists' in your PR either openly or secretly (but we all know how instantaneously they run to MS aid after their many blunders, so in fact not so secretly) is just punching below the waist, kicking balls unsportsmanlike. So while MS deserve a response-in-kind, Sony is not pouncing on it. They could be all over MS in similar strategies, but we know they will just go for the kill shot like they did in the past. That's why I'm at least trying to stay calm (not easy always), and actually quite comfortable in knowing Sony has the better hardware AND software this time around too.

I know these are just baits for people to make them start asking Sony for bones to throw, when we all know Sony is just laying on its treasure like a dragon biding his time. The giant treasure is there, we just don't know the content. MS is either sitting on a pile of pretty much nothing and only have what they have already shown, or the stuff down the line is coming up too little and too little.

I keep saying that if SONY figure out backwards compatability, or they allow the downloading of all games on PSNow rather than only-streaming for some of them, MS loses the only two things it has going for it (GP & BC). It would be a blood bath.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I dunno, man ... I mean, don't the pics below show a reasonable gen jump? If anything, it's a taste of things to come.

PS5:

I'm always blown away by what Sony did on PS4 in general, so yeah, from that perspective, it's reasonable looking.

I still prefer to assume things presented in a cinematic fashion do not represent gameplay graphics.

*shrug*

 

[Moridianae]

See? This is what I was talking about before I was taken aback by a personal attack! In comes a new Spider Man picture, replete with(almost certainly) ray tracing implemented.


All of a sudden, here's a bunch of bullshit being slung with things like "possible", "it could". "There MIGHT be trouble in paradise, "sources" say.."

Just outta the woodwork. Here comes a bunch of questionable information all in response to, all in all, a very nice screenshot of a title shaping up nicely on PS5, which also happens to be an exclusive.

Apparently, that can't happen.