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[Hugare]

PLEASE someone confirm whether the main quest is actually only 11 hours long? As that's slightly disappointing.

Of course there will be tons of gang quests and side content to do but I hope they didn't cut the story that bad because of some whiny players who couldn't complete TW3.

2 people that have finished the game on that other forum took 22h.

I wouldnt trust that Dreamcast guy, at all

It takes 6h to reach the freaking game title after finishing the prologue

 

[kiryani]

The patch will fix some issues, but won't transform the game into anything beautiful compared to what we see now.

Well they have delayed the game what, 3 times? To get this patch ready, so it’s going to have a fairly major influence.

This isn’t just your standard day 1 patch that fixes issues, this is something that has put the entire project/company/plan on hold in order to put out as good a product as possible.

This few days here will be forgotten quickly in history, nobody will ever judge the game with no patch, so I’ve no issue with people having their fun with it, but it’s clearly absolutely fucking mental to judge it without the patch they delayed the game 3 times to get right.

 

[Gamezone]

Well they have delayed the game what, 3 times? To get this patch ready, so it’s going to have a fairly major influence.

This isn’t just your standard day 1 patch that fixes issues, this is something that has put the entire project/company/plan on hold in order to put out as good a product as possible.

This few days here will be forgotten quickly in history, nobody will ever judge the game with no patch, so I’ve no issue with people having their fun with it, but it’s clearly absolutely fucking mental to judge it without the patch they delayed the game 3 times to get right.

I don't think the content on the disc is from the first delay. It's probably between 1-2 months old.

 

[blastprocessor]

Kojima speaking in Japanese on the live stream.

 

[Gamezone]

Why can't someone who's good at games get an early copy?

That's how it is. You have to suck and be able to record at 360p.

 

[Karak]

2 people that have finished the game on that other forum took 22h.

I wouldnt trust that Dreamcast guy, at all

It takes 6h to reach the freaking game title after finishing the prologue

Also 3 more at less than 18.

Also one thing to remember is nothing at all matters about getting to the title screen as we have seen with titles as recent as Fenyx Rising. As a dev recently said, "I can put it anywhere at all. It actually could be in the middle to points towards the plot's 2nd act. It means very little"
A title screen can and has been put all over the place in games.

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

hmmm so you could play in 3rd person and get a glimpse of your augmented robo-penis if you ride a motorcycle and then do a somersault off a ramp...Interesting...

 

[THEAP99]

Well they have delayed the game what, 3 times? To get this patch ready, so it’s going to have a fairly major influence.

This isn’t just your standard day 1 patch that fixes issues, this is something that has put the entire project/company/plan on hold in order to put out as good a product as possible.

This few days here will be forgotten quickly in history, nobody will ever judge the game with no patch, so I’ve no issue with people having their fun with it, but it’s clearly absolutely fucking mental to judge it without the patch they delayed the game 3 times to get right.

what are u even talking about bruh? the day one patch is for what they've been working on since the last delay. not since april lol

 

[Hugare]

I don't think the content on the disc is from the first delay. It's probably between 1-2 months old.

The content on the disc is something that they didnt even expect to be played by the players

It's unfinished, and its surprising that you can even finish the game

Compare footage from those first leaks to those of now. That ride with Jackie when you enter Night City, with that chase at the end.

Some streets doesnt even load, showing simply a birght white light while it loads; the crash at the end of the chase looks simply like a bump at the wall, with no explosion and animations; the hair in the officer that talk to them is glitching; the garage door doesnt opena nd Jackie's car just pass through it...

All of those were corrected by that 40gb patch

So yeah, one patch can do A LOT

You gotta be pretty fucking idiotic to judge a game by its unfinished code

Review it by what it is on launch day, than it will be fair

 

[Ogbert]

I'm still hyped.

It looks like Fallout 4 with a bladerunner mod and better gunplay.

 

[DonJorginho]

Also 3 more at less than 18.

Do you know if they just chugged through the main quest or did a bunch of side content too?

Also, would you happen to know when your buddies are dropping/are allowed to drop their reviews, I understand you're getting your code late which sucks as I love your reviews man!

 

[DonJorginho]

I'm still hyped.

It looks like Fallout 4 with a bladerunner mod and better gunplay.

Gonna be making my V look like Officer K for sure!

 

[Gamezone]

The content on the disc is something that they didnt even expect to be played by the players

It's unfinished, and its surprising that you can even finish the game

Compare footage from those first leaks to those of now. That ride with Jackie when you enter Night City, with that chase at the end.

Some streets doesnt even load, showing simply a birght white light while it loads; the crash at the end of the chase looks simply like a bump at the wall, with no explosion and animations; the hair in the officer that talk to them is glitching; the garage door doesnt opena nd Jackie's car just pass through it...

All of those were corrected by that 40gb patch

So yeah, one patch can do A LOT

You gotta be pretty fucking idiotic to judge a game by its unfinished code

Review it by what it is on launch day, than it will be fair

They could have pulled an Activision and made the disc content not able to launch without the day one patch if that was the case

 

[Karak]

Do you know if they just chugged through the main quest or did a bunch of side content too?

Also, would you happen to know when your buddies are dropping/are allowed to drop their reviews, I understand you're getting your code late which sucks as I love your reviews man!

I was told they played it...as they played games normally.
Which to be honest is something I am hearing from a lot of people. Some people have had the game...for more than enough time to play it fine.
Also the whole THEY MUST BE RUSHING. Is insanely broken when spoken as some kind of factor in final analysis. Since some gamers play huge amounts of time in a row and can still tell you what they think of a game. others can not. Its equalized by normal experience. Our sample group will grow noticeable soon.

I do know the exact times for review but that is something I am asked not to pass on. I will admit I have no idea why. It is obvious that, regardless of anything else, this has been a tremendous difficulty on the devs side and I can only assume there is a lot of back and fort there.

 

[THEAP99]

Also 3 more at less than 18.

Also one thing to remember is nothing at all matters about getting to the title screen as we have seen with titles as recent as Fenyx Rising. As a dev recently said, "I can put it anywhere at all. It actually could be in the middle to points towards the plot's 2nd act. It means very little"
A title screen can and has been put all over the place in games.

that's pretty crazy tbh. it took me 45 hours to beat witcher 3 and if i remember correctly i did some side stuff but not at all.

i think it's a bad look for cd red considering they're on the record boasting about playing it for 140 hours and media websites ran with that and made people "WOW THIS GAME IS SO LONG!"

Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Claims They've Played 175 Hours & Still Not Finished

Cyberpunk 2077 devs love the game, at least.

screenrant.com

I would imagine the side content makes it longer but still, 15-25 hours for main story i think is kinda short with how this has been hyped but that's just me personally. if it works out well it works.

 

[Stuart360]

Just been watching some of the leaked vids in this thread, and damn i hate the way the city looks so empty when driving around, hardly any pedestrians. This is the console version right?, hopefully the PC version feels more alive.

 

[Karak]

that's pretty crazy tbh. it took me 45 hours to beat witcher 3 and if i remember correctly i did some side stuff but not at all.

i think it's a bad look for cd red considering they're on the record boasting about playing it for 140 hours and media websites ran with that and made people "WOW THIS GAME IS SO LONG!"

Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Claims They've Played 175 Hours & Still Not Finished

Cyberpunk 2077 devs love the game, at least.

screenrant.com

I would imagine the side content makes it longer but still, 15-25 hours for main story i think is kinda short with how this has been hyped but that's just me personally. if it works out well it works.

I don't think its a bad look at all
I think its their version of the game and eash is taken as it is. If its a good 40 great a bad 40 ok, good 30 bad 10 ok.
Its all about the context of the experience not just the gross number of hours.

Also that DEV.test account is like any outlier and spread around DUE to its high level not in spite of it. They are also testers and MOST devs will have their own testing times(to look at their content) within the game. 100+ hours for even a longer style ACTIOn game isn't unheard of.

 

[DonJorginho]

I was told they played it...as they played games normally.
Which to be honest is something I am hearing from a lot of people. Some people have had the game...for more than enough time to play it fine.
Also the whole THEY MUST BE RUSHING. Is insanely broken when spoken as some kind of factor in final analysis. Since some gamers play huge amounts of time in a row and can still tell you what they think of a game. others can not. Its equalized by normal experience. Our sample group will grow noticeable soon.

I do know the exact times for review but that is something I am asked not to pass on. I will admit I have no idea why. It is obvious that, regardless of anything else, this has been a tremendous difficulty on the devs side and I can only assume there is a lot of back and fort there.

Thank you for the information, it means a lot and gives great insight into these kinds of things so I appreciate that man. Would you say the reviews will drop with enough time before the game comes out or is that still something you can't give away or hint at? I'm playing this regardless but need more content before launch as I can't think about anything else aside from this game!

 

[vpance]

So there's a lot of overlap in story between the 3 life paths?

Do they all join up in plot after 6 hrs or something?

 

[Gamezone]

Just been watching some of the leaked vids in this thread, and damn i hate the way the city looks so empty when driving around, hardly any pedestrians. This is the console version right?, hopefully the PC version feels more alive.

Yes. The PC version haven't leaked, but I can't imagine the PC version will be looking more alive. They usually go with some sort of parity. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Hugare]

Also 3 more at less than 18.

Also one thing to remember is nothing at all matters about getting to the title screen as we have seen with titles as recent as Fenyx Rising. As a dev recently said, "I can put it anywhere at all. It actually could be in the middle to points towards the plot's 2nd act. It means very little"
A title screen can and has been put all over the place in games.

Ohh ok

Havent seen about those under 18, damn

But some people, like Hobbes and thst other dude that I mentioned, said that you can easily reach 100h to complete everything

So there must be TONS of sidequest. I dont think that I've seen a game with such "main quest/completion" ratio, where the story takes ~11h and to complete it takes 100.

Makes sense, because CDPR must want everyone to complete the story, even "casuals". While at the same time ,offering enough content to "hardcore" players

 

[Karak]

Thank you for the information, it means a lot and gives great insight into these kinds of things so I appreciate that man. Would you say the reviews will drop with enough time before the game comes out or is that still something you can't give away or hint at? I'm playing this regardless but need more content before launch as I can't think about anything else aside from this game!

No worries at all.

That is not for me to say no. I am playing on a store broke version as they decided not to supply code. But I was informed of the timeframe.

Ohh ok

Havent seen about those under 18, damn

But some people, like Hobbes and thst other dude that I mentioned, said that you can easily reach 100h to complete everything

So there must be TONS of sidequest. I dont think that I've seen a game with such "main quest/completion" ratio, where the story takes ~11h and to complete it takes 100.

Makes sense, because CDPR must want everyone to complete the story, even "casuals". While at the same time ,offering enough content to "hardcore" players

You probably could if you walk the map like a fucking minesweeper or just explore. People need to really NOT focus so much on this hours stuff in comparison to Witcher 3
Its not witcher 3. Some may love its main story and NOT want to do as many sides, the experience WILL be different and that's ok.
Even its 1st person perspective might be different for someone versus witchers 3.
But I can say that MOST of the time someone saying doing everything means every collectable, reading every single entry, opening every door and every crate, listening to every voice, and basically just walking it like a tron light cycle. Which at that point MANY games get high numbers.

 

[THEAP99]

I don't think its a bad look at all
I think its their version of the game and eash is taken as it is. If its a good 40 great a bad 40 ok, good 30 bad 10 ok.
Its all about the context of the experience not just the gross number of hours.

Also that DEV.test account is like any outlier and spread around DUE to its high level not in spite of it. They are also testers and MOST devs will have their own testing times(to look at their content) within the game. 100+ hours for even a longer style ACTIOn game isn't unheard of.

i agree with you and understand, especially with the dev testing part. but when i have casual friends who game casually coming to me and saying "bro look cyberpunk is soo big it takes more than x amount of hours to beat" i don't think it's a good look because the media clickbait articles run with what developers say and mislead and i feel my friend would be disappointed it's not that long. now my friend could be an outlier but i saw those big ass numbers being thrown around by tons of people.

 

[Saint Boot]

If that's from where I think it is, the idiot just had his stream shut down by cdpr, lol.

 

[RedVIper]

Here man take a close look at some of that footage

Look very low polygonal

It looks..uh..bit of PS2 esque here?

Compare that with Horizon Zero Dawn NPC

Are seriously comparing a cutscene model with random ass ncps?

 

[blastprocessor]

Damn live stream is DMCA'd

 

[Karak]

Ohh ok

Havent seen about those under 18, damn

But some people, like Hobbes and thst other dude that I mentioned, said that you can easily reach 100h to complete everything

So there must be TONS of sidequest. I dont think that I've seen a game with such "main quest/completion" ratio, where the story takes ~11h and to complete it takes 100.

Makes sense, because CDPR must want everyone to complete the story, even "casuals". While at the same time ,offering enough content to "hardcore" players

i agree with you and understand, especially with the dev testing part. but when i have casual friends who game casually coming to me and saying "bro look cyberpunk is soo big it takes more than x amount of hours to beat" i don't think it's a good look because the media clickbait articles run with what developers say and mislead and i feel my friend would be disappointed it's not that long. now my friend could be an outlier but i saw those big ass numbers being thrown around by tons of people.

I don't think its...a good look on your friends.
But not on whatever else. I mean sure devs have done some stuff but man we have youtube channels and podcast that take a SINGLE sentence and do 3 podcasts on it. Its not ALL on the one side.
And if people ONLy care about hours they can 100% ELex
Also you should not care if your friend is disappointed. Your friend should be controlling their out of control expectations and, if they have bought games before, ALSO realize that MUCH of this is blown out of proportion. We can only in the end control ourselves

 

[Bandit Messiah]

People worried about the short story time need to calm down a bit. If you are just blasting through the story and doing nothing else, this probably isn't the type of game for you. There will be tons of side quests, an entire city to explore, god only knows how many small little gems they have hidden away in it all also. Not to mention you can play the game multiple ways, so there should be a lot of replay value as well. It should be a game where someone that wants to get the full experience can easily sink 2-300 hours into, and that's before whatever expansions they release for it plus the multiplayer they have already said is coming.

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

New content for Crowbcat

 

[THEAP99]

I really hope reviews come sooner or later, and i am talking about a good amount. If what people are saying about how they were very selective about outlets receiving copies is true, i may have to put the purchase on hold. more than 50 reviews and metacritic over 85 and i will purchase cyberpunk.

i hope we will see reviews soon

 

[Karak]

I really hope reviews come sooner or later, and i am talking about a good amount. If what people are saying about how they were very selective about outlets receiving copies is true, i may have to put the purchase on hold. more than 50 reviews and metacritic over 85 and i will purchase cyberpunk.

i hope we will see reviews soon

VERY Selective.
VERY

 

[wordslaughter]

It's nice to see that you can fly off your bike if you hit something too hard. I saw a section of that gameplay before where it was just him hitting that car and not flying off. And to be fair, that's the way GTA is too. You don't fly off your bike every time you hit something. You have to be REALLY moving for that to happen.

 

[EDMIX]

I wouldnt trust that Dreamcast guy, at all

It takes 6h to reach the freaking game title after finishing the prologue

Has nothing to do with trust, I don't know how Dreamcast guy plays his games. For all we know he is not one to sit around looking at things mindlessly and wants to get on with the game thus beats areas and parts a bit faster. I take my time with many games thus my time on beating lots of games usually is a bit above others. Its not to say the games I'm playing are longer, its to say I'M TAKING LONGER to beat the game by my choice. So not everyone is putting 85 hours in Ghost Of Tsushima or 90 plus hours in Horizon Zero Dawn or even 215 hours in Fallout 4.

 

[Hugare]

No worries at all.

That is not for me to say no. I am playing on a store broke version as they decided not to supply code. But I was informed of the timeframe.


You probably could if you walk the map like a fucking minesweeper or just explore. People need to really NOT focus so much on this hours stuff in comparison to Witcher 3
Its not witcher 3. Some may love its main story and NOT want to do as many sides, the experience WILL be different and that's ok.
Even its 1st person perspective might be different for someone versus witchers 3.
But I can say that MOST of the time someone saying doing everything means every collectable, reading every single entry, opening every door and every crate, listening to every voice, and basically just walking it like a tron light cycle. Which at that point MANY games get high numbers.

Yeah, I'm not worried about playtime, because even at 15h with sidequests I would still have my money worth if the game is good.

Mirrors Edge, a 4h game, is one my GOATs. Pacing is everything, and if this game gets it right, Its fine by me.

I will definitely play the game 2 more times tho in order to see what the other lifepaths offer. Even if the differences turn out to be marginal.

 

[Saint Boot]

cdpr only wants that corpo shilling. They sadly do not want honest reviews from skillup, angry joe, and acg.

 

[THEAP99]

VERY Selective.
VERY

A Warning About ‘Cyberpunk 2077’ Reviews

You'll want to keep some things in mind as you read 'Cyberpunk 2077' Reviews.

www.forbes.com

So far, code distribution seems a little scattered for this game: I obviously can’t speak for every outlet, and I feel confident that some people have probably had a bit more time with it. But I have yet to receive code, and I know that a lot of other people are likely in the same boat. So at that point, even if I get that code right now, as I type this article, it makes it functionally impossible to get a review out for release. Even a little more time—a week or so, maybe—would make the process of slamming through this game in time before either release or an embargo a few days before release a nightmare.

But why? First impression preview events they had with journalists in the summer or whenever and stuff were positive and usually, cd red are a transparent pro-consumer company. I am not saying that they're anti-consumer if they don't give outlets copies but it just seems unlike them. Especially with if i recall, witcher 3 was a week before release. "Hiding" the game from reviewers is the type of behavior i'd expect from bethesda.

Also if it's as selective as it seems, ill just hold off on purchasing. Nobody with a cyberpunk chair and merch is gonna be believable to me.

perhaps it's all about that day one patch or whatever and they want reviewers to play that.

 

[THEAP99]

cdpr only wants that corpo shilling. They sadly do not want honest reviews from skillup, angry joe, and acg.

i think skillupyt will enjoy the game, same with angry joe. i am sorry but i don't believe in the attitude that YouTubers are more believable than news outlets and vice versa. in fact, with how influencer-driven this game has been, the last place ill look for reviews is from all the people who got cyberpunk chairs and was featured in the game (Alanah Pearce).

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

Access media...Always choosing Corpo

 

[Karak]

A Warning About ‘Cyberpunk 2077’ Reviews

You'll want to keep some things in mind as you read 'Cyberpunk 2077' Reviews.

www.forbes.com

But why? First impression preview events they had with journalists in the summer or whenever and stuff were positive and usually, cd red are a transparent pro-consumer company. I am not saying that they're anti-consumer if they don't give outlets copies but it just seems unlike them. Especially with if i recall, witcher 3 was a week before release. "Hiding" the game from reviewers is the type of behavior i'd expect from bethesda.

Also if it's as selective as it seems, ill just hold off on purchasing. Nobody with a cyberpunk chair and merch is gonna be believable to me.

perhaps it's all about that day one patch or whatever and they want reviewers to play that.

Not sure
I can say that Forbes article is devastatingly wrong in some cases.

I should also point out that MANY times people say that stuff so that you wait for their coverage. Pretending people can't give ideas and so forth or are even capable. Its very typical gamesmanship

 

[ForestVSea]

EDIT: Streams down already, nevermind

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

i think skillupyt will enjoy the game, same with angry joe. i am sorry but i don't believe in the attitude that YouTubers are more believable than news outlets and vice versa. in fact, with how influencer-driven this game has been, the last place ill look for reviews is from all the people who got cyberpunk chairs and was featured in the game (Alanah Pearce).

Agreed but, well, there are youtubers and then there are youtubers. After you feel like you know and trust someone from watching their videos and getting their vibe, if they suddenly change tune and start shilling it feels kind of obvious. While the gaming press all seem on the same page only with each other and don't even seem to know how to play games, let alone be in sync with/at the service of consumers.

 

[Karak]

Agreed but, well, there are youtubers and then there are youtubers. After you feel like you know and trust someone from watching their videos and getting their vibe, if they suddenly change tune and start shilling it feels kind of obvious. While the gaming press all seem on the same page only with each other and don't even seem to know how to play games, let alone be in sync with/at the service of consumers.

Also never ever ever trust one review
EVER EVER
Its why I will always share others videos I find are valid many don't agree with me on things. But man NEVER trust just one source

 

[EDMIX]

cdpr only wants that corpo shilling. They sadly do not want honest reviews from skillup, angry joe, and acg.

lol probably. With the issues we are seeing, I think they might be a bit worried on how its going to be received. I think its smart to hold off on the review embargo on this one. Folks need to get out of their echo chambers and realize some of the issues and missing or removed features will have an impact on some players. Some on here didn't even know of some of the removed features they were hype for, which tells me a reviewer will bring up those things.

We've had open world games with cars before folks, some of theses issues have no excuse after so many delays to be in the title and I'm doubtful a patch will clear them all out.....look at Witcher 3. I think they need to be held to the same standard as a Rockstar or Bethesda.

Can they release an open world game like this only to have missing features from titles they put out 20 years ago, faces missing, people flying, extreme pop in etc? They'd be torn to shreds if that was the case.

Keep that same energy. I want them to WANT to put those features in based on reviewers and gamers and not feel like this is acceptable or something. We simply would not give a pass to another developer who did this. This title seems to be trying to look good more then actually trying to PLAY GOOD and offer unique features. What is to say a Far Cry in the future doesn't do the same thing? ie here is a city, kill missions and cars? Looking good is a given, but this title doesn't even look better then Deus Ex Mankind Divided, so I feel they need to offer a bit more then "it lookeded good doe", this is where those missing features start to make a lot of what they are hyping up as window dressing.

THEAP99 " cd red are a transparent pro-consumer company. " I greatly disagree. They might try to pass themselves off like that, but we've had way too many articles about reversals or 180's or "time to admit something we claimed wasn't going to happen before" etc.

Transparent is lying to consumers about that downgrade on Witcher 3 and only telling fans about this the day after they bought the game?

So I got the bulk of their games day 1, I'm getting Cyberpunk 2077 day 1, but I'd never argue they are transparent or pro-consumer. They simply want to make that appearance, but WHAT THEY FACTUALLY DO shows otherwise. I'm personally not shocked at this. When they lied about that downgrade it was to move units, period. Them not giving out some of those review codes is to sell the game before those reviews start talking about those issues, missing features etc.

 

[Karak]

cdpr only wants that corpo shilling. They sadly do not want honest reviews from skillup, angry joe, and acg.

I will not discuss my instance in particular just because.
I will say that I do have a tendency to test performance on all platforms which, other than DF or whatever is a bit unique as well as sound music and voice(less so). So perhaps that might be a struggling issue.
I was disappointed since years ago they contacted ME to cover it and not the other way around. Something changed in the last couple weeks and that's sad. But we will see if its indicative of something
Which in the past it has not always been.

 

[THEAP99]

 

[THEAP99]

Agreed but, well, there are youtubers and then there are youtubers. After you feel like you know and trust someone from watching their videos and getting their vibe, if they suddenly change tune and start shilling it feels kind of obvious. While the gaming press all seem on the same page only with each other and don't even seem to know how to play games, let alone be in sync with/at the service of consumers.

i always first and foremost look at track record of the company. i then watch some raw footage. then i dig into reviews from a lot of main outlets and then some smaller youtubers and the metacritic scores summaries.

one of the more important ones for cyberpunk is def performance. it does me NO GOOD at all if a reviewer is playing the game on a juiced-up pc and im on ps5 without the next gen upgrade. sure the fundamentals of the game may be good, but the performance can hurt my enjoyment

 

[Karak]

I should say. MY version of many will never be identical to someone else's lol

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

sure the fundamentals of the game may be good, but the performance can hurt my enjoyment

Certainly looking like performance could be an issue at launch. But maybe it's the most magical megapatch ever. People with patience and restraint will of course be rewarded but this is the most hyped release in living memory, I feel like CDPR's golden boy status may have exceeded Blizzard at the height of their glory days

 

[AutumnLeaves]

New content for Crowbcat

LMAO, yesssss!

 

[THEAP99]

I truly feel like I'm reliving the death stranding pre-review angst.