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Biomutant will be 4k/60 on XSX, 1440/30 on XSS, 1080/60 on PS5 (technical issues, patch to follow). Current gen info to follow
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Not really, but alright.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
That post and your avatar is sublime.
Trogdor1123
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The ps5 runs exactly the same as pro? Is it just more stable?
Looks pretty good to me. Environment looks terrific and combat looks fine.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Ratchet? Hell yeah brotherYeah I can’t to play it. My money is ready
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Yeah Pro looked like it had a lot of dipping in the footage. PS5 should just lock it to 60
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Yeah will need to really get hands on with the combat before i can judge it. Can't tell 8f its good or bad with how shit these guys are
Otherwise it still looks good to me. Especially from a <20 man studio
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Pull n Pray
Banned
Really? Why?
Sir Vilhelm
Member
What a hilarious alternate reality you live in. Sony literally removing the backwards capat hardware from the PS3 therefore also removing any possibility of backpat PS2 games is doing it well? Lol you have such low standards I can hardly believe it, but then you follow that up and say Microsoft did it half ass? I can't even
Mr Moose
Member
He's been wrong numerous times, possibly faking results (or just having shit tools).
MostScrumptionsYams
Banned
This thread turned into an Xbox fan dick eating contest. I hope to see this game bought and the devs supported by you clowns.
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
Good news! Apparently it does! It's always nice to see the PR match reality.
01011001
Banned
wtf is it with companies not being able to accurately report simple facts? because it was weird to see 1440p30 for the Series S
01011001
Banned
neo member, check
obvious fanboy war fanning, check
putting on ignore list, check
dcmk7
Banned
Wow so, so, so sensitive.. you literally interpreted my post as an attack on your favourite billion dollar company. It's so boring and tedious.What a hilarious alternate reality you live in. Sony literally removing the backwards capat hardware from the PS3 therefore also removing any possibility of backpat PS2 games is doing it well? Lol you have such low standards I can hardly believe it, but then you follow that up and say Microsoft did it half ass? I can't even
It must be a lot of fun being you.. getting upset about someone's opinion on backwards compatibility over 10 years ago... damn man.
My guess is it defaults to 1440p/30 so that was what was reported by the THQ social team. It's a toggle in the settings. Just poor communication
Sir Vilhelm
Member
Lol dude you're too funny, nothing in either of our posts make me angry, just shows how disconnected you are.
dcmk7
Banned
Lol dude you're too funny, nothing in either of our posts make me angry, just shows how disconnected you are.
Agree to disagree.
MasterCornholio
Member
Mr Moose
is correct ElAnalistadeBits is pretty bad with his comparisons. Like releasing a video with a bugged framerate recorder on multiple occasions. Last time I saw this was with his RE8 comparison. With all the other sites the framerate was locked at 60 on both platforms but with his comaparison it should dips on both platforms and screen tearing when there was no visible screen tearing. Not to mention he doesn't give credit to the other sites when he gets information from them.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
01011001
Banned
well it gets really spicy when you look at how many games are almost perfectly compatible with the software PS2 emulator they made to sell PS2 games on PS3 and PS4.
here I'll quote a post from another thread:
and I don't get it. their emulator even on PS3 can play A TON OF GAMES... now with softmods people can actually try every game on it and so many work really well, it is ridiculous that they didn't offer backwards compatibility for those titles.
here are the STATS, and this is only from th egames tested, many are untested because they are niche or people simple didn't post their findings:PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List - PS3 Developer wiki
Playstation Development Wiki - PS5, PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, PSP, Vita Informationwww.psdevwiki.com
218 Games are "Official PS2 Classics"
665 Games are "Playable"
118 Games have "Minor Issues"
47 Games have "Major Issues"
73 Games are "Unplayable"
this means, on a modded PS3 you can play more than 1000 PS2 games without any major issues. the "Minor Issues" category are games that have small graphics glitches or minor slowdowns, the "Playable" category run almost 100% correct as they did on PS2. and again, not every game was tested and the last update on this was in June 2019
and remember, this is the emulator they used for the officially released PS2 games, so this was not even tested or optimized for all the other games whatsoever.
and the fact that the 200 or so officially released download versions are not compatibly via disc is another thing.
EDIT: here are the stats on a modded PS4 btw:
PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List - PS4 Developer wiki
Playstation Development Wiki - PS5, PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, PSP, Vita Information
54 Games are "Official PS2 Classics"
536 Games are "Playable"
180 Games have "Minor Issues"
91 Games have "Major Issues"
251 Games are "Unplayable"
so on PS4 we have 770 perfectly playable to highly playable PS2 games with an emulator that was only optimized for 54 officially downloadable games! SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY!
as a reminder, there are only 577 Xbox 360 games backwards compatible on Xbox One/SX (which is a matter of licensing mostly, because they have to repackage the game and so they need the rights to do that)
for some reason the psdevwiki site isn't working for me at the moment...
but what you can see here is that on PS3 there are more than 1000 PS2 games that work basically flawlessly or almost flawlessly (minor glitches)
on PS4 it is around 800 that work perfectly or very well. and that's on an emulator that was only made to sell a fraction of that
(also keep in mind that these are only games that have been actually tested by someone, and then put into the database)
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Pull n Pray
Banned
I see. Thanks for the heads up.
01011001
Banned
not shit tools but shit practices. you have to use lossless footage in order to measure framerate, and he didn't use lossless footage. also if you see a weird drop that makes no sense, DF, NX Gamer and VGtech actually look if the readings are correct and sometimes count frames by hand if the footage gives issues.
in terms of pixel counting he was pretty much correct so far tho, it's only the FPS tests that had issues in the past.
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Astral Dog
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MostScrumptionsYams
Banned
How pathetic
but who cares about which development set was created if it's BC or whatever ..... it's a new game .. a new game ... repeat with me, a new game for a 499 console, and it runs much better on Xbox. period. It is a problem with the Sony console not being able to take advantage of the performance with game, not of the developers, and certainly not the users.Part of your daily gaming life is full RDNA2 proudness and repeat how much better is this game in BC mode on Xbox because can't run on 4k on ps5 for tech issue?
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Interesting... Current gen versions are not out yet but you says a new game for a $499 console. Also how do you know that the PS5 version will run bad or will not take advantage of the performance of the console? Do you know something?
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down 2 orth
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All this publicity for a game nobody would have otherwise cared about.
Respect.
Respect.
pasterpl
Member
Funny enough you ignored all other points I have made. Regardless, on paper in terms of TFlops Xbox series x is more powerful platform, it has better bc solution, and what it means, that lots of games that are being released now will work better on Xbox, there is only handful of next gen only title with most of the games being bc or cross gen. My point is that currently Xbox is better place to play these games, seems that releases have less “tech issues” and devs got easier time tapping into that 12 TFlops of power.Part of your daily gaming life is full RDNA2 proudness and repeat how much better is this game in BC mode on Xbox because can't run on 4k on ps5 for tech issue?
we have seen that with next gen only games, ps5 struggles to offer native 4k, it also struggles to offer native 4K via bc, it barely have any 120fps games as well (easiest to achieve on bc games, but if your bc solution is shit, you will have problems).
MaulerX
Member
These memes are hilarious
Not far off the mark when even the Series S can do 60fps at a higher resolution.
Fess
Member
And yet it’s more likely that a Playstation fan own a gaming PC than a Xbox fan...
I don’t know who’s winning this ridiculous fight, I’m just glad the game gets some time in the spotlight
HoodWinked
Member
It's a bit of a conundrum the reason for this disparity is the same reason some initial games ran better on the Series X.
Where Microsoft has put a large amount of effort on backwards compatibility so the performance boosts are essentially free. Sony will do the bare minimum as thier focus is selling new games. Only if they have a native version for ps5 will it see closer parity with Series X.
So ps fans will argue just wait for the patch while Xbox fans can argue the system should have a better streamline process for BC games like a PC scaling visuals dependant on hardware.
Where Microsoft has put a large amount of effort on backwards compatibility so the performance boosts are essentially free. Sony will do the bare minimum as thier focus is selling new games. Only if they have a native version for ps5 will it see closer parity with Series X.
So ps fans will argue just wait for the patch while Xbox fans can argue the system should have a better streamline process for BC games like a PC scaling visuals dependant on hardware.
Silent Viper
Banned
Devs confirmed its a technical issue and it will be fixed soon
skit_data
Member
Well placed ad:
Note the PS4 and Xbox One part
It might be new, but it isn’t ”a new game for a $499 console”, but that seems to get lost along the road to fit the narrative.
Note the PS4 and Xbox One part
It might be new, but it isn’t ”a new game for a $499 console”, but that seems to get lost along the road to fit the narrative.
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Team Andromeda
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Oh Dear PS fans where's Craig when you need him
since we don't understand each other I'll say it another way:Well placed ad:
Note the PS4 and Xbox One part
It might be new, but it isn’t ”a new game for a $499 console”, but that seems to get lost along the road to fit the narrative.
Imagine being a kid who just got his first home console as a gift from his parents and it's the ps5 , you load biomutant and realize that the game runs at 1/4 the resolution it runs on your best friend's Xbox series X. I bet you know that "Aaaah it's because of BC!" it will fix everything .... especially the missing pixels. Instead of finding impossible excuses for Sony and Cerny, it is necessary to accept that the PS5's BC is objectively subpar compared to that offered by the competition.
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Garani
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I still don't get it why you are wasting everyone's time on a BC game. Once it will be recompiled, if ever, with the new feature set for next gen we can spend time debating, but until then it's just console warring. It's a useless debate.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
While I tend to agree, the difference between 1080p and 4K is quite massive, especially if the assets are highly detailed.
Garani
Member
Coming soon on a XSX near you.
Garani
Member
I haven't read so much FUD in a message for a very long time. It's almost like the fact that PS5 has had solid games running in 4k, 60fps, RT (in performance mode to boot) just got lost to you. And no, 120fps is a target that not even the XSX hits, unless MS asks for a TV set to fix it for them.
Stop the FUD, the games are out there and you are embarassing yourself.
assurdum
Banned
You missed totally my point. I already said Xbox is better in BC. Now use BC games to say is superior in multiplat is quite asinine but of course it's too much ask to be reasonable and not fanboisticBut Xbox is better ..... at BC.
but I mean catch the moment until you can, seems the only philosophy of the Xbox warriors
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Garani
Member
Naaaa it's not that MS is better at BC, is that both companies have different targets for BC. Sony wants full respect of the original developer's vision, allowing for a newly recompiled PS4 Pro version to go uncapped if it detects to be running on a PS5, while MS just pushes whatever is there to max while letting it run on a VM.But Xbox is better ..... at BC.
Different strategies, different targets. Could the PS5 upscale a basic PS4 BC game to run at 4k/120fps? Yes it could. Would it make sense with 1080p assets? Not really.
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