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Guilty Gear Strive - Reviews
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VeganElduderino
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so basically never ? lol
SlimeGooGoo
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kyoji
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using that logic whats stopping DBFZ from being cross play on xbox and pc? KEKW
I guess its sony AMIRIGHT? hrmmm
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Bo_Hazem
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With all the hype and limelight that Ratchet & Clank has, it is easy to miss out on Guilty Gear Strive, which is also releasing on June 11, 2021 on PS4, PS5 and PC. The game is being very highly reviewed and is currently hovering between 89 and 90 on Metacritic.
Metacritic: 89 (was 90 when I started creating this thread)
Opencritic: 84 (90% recommended)
IGN: 9/10
Shacknews: 9/10
GamingTrend: 85/100
Windows Central: 4/5
Just Push Start: 4.5/5
Eurogamer Italy: 9/10
Some people waiting to see games that might release in the future in E3, while Sony is bringing an exclusive after and exclusive. Crazy!
kyoji
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since youre doubling down on your idiocricy im just going to let the mods handle it now.
apparently youre smart enough to troll but not connect the dots. Arc systems works is the same dev that makes dbfz. dbfz another popular fighting game that has ZERO cross play with pc. So maybe... just MAYBE, could it be the developer? nawww that makes too much sense and doesnt fit your normal shit show posting.
youre trying to combine two very different situations and pretend like they are one. so again ill ask you what is stopping dbfz from being cross play? are you saying nintendo and ms are stopping there player bases from playing with pc? because that has zero to do with sony charging a publisher in a different situation and doesnt explain why arcsys has yet to enable it on there other fighter i guess big bad sony just cock blocked nintendo and ms from pc huh, didnt realize they had that much stroke.
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kyoji
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i need to upgrade my stick, i dont even know whats good these days i have a hori though
yazenov
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Sony isn't blocking cross-play. Whoever want cross play must pay up as its not free, like most things in life.
If they didnt pay then it seems like its not worth it for them and its not a must have feature.
Vaelka
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I am a huge Guilty Gear fan so I am really looking forward to it ( PC release ), however it is very simplified in comparison to the old games and it does feel very limited in comparison.
Which is a big problem with MK11 too and a lot of other fighting games recently, and in the Betas they actually removed a lot of things even tho it was already too limited in Strive.
So yeah that casuals like it or that people like it on first impression isn't surprising, but I am curious to see how long it actually lasts.
Personally I am just happy to get a Guilty Gear game with good online, but I also think people are just excited right now because it's like this hidden gem people found out about.
But as a fighting game I somewhat have doubts that it'll be as well-received in the long term.
Sorta like how MK11 was well-received despite a ton of the similar issues initially but after time people sorta feel like it's very meh and that MKX was better.
The problem with most fighting game stories is that it basically just ends up being a bunch of dumb excuses for people to get into fist fights with each other and they have to fit everyone in there even if it's stupid and makes no sense because otherwise their players get upset.
I kinda like that they don't do this here, the story is a lot more focused.
Which is a big problem with MK11 too and a lot of other fighting games recently, and in the Betas they actually removed a lot of things even tho it was already too limited in Strive.
So yeah that casuals like it or that people like it on first impression isn't surprising, but I am curious to see how long it actually lasts.
Personally I am just happy to get a Guilty Gear game with good online, but I also think people are just excited right now because it's like this hidden gem people found out about.
But as a fighting game I somewhat have doubts that it'll be as well-received in the long term.
Sorta like how MK11 was well-received despite a ton of the similar issues initially but after time people sorta feel like it's very meh and that MKX was better.
I actually prefer this, because it allows them to focus more on certain characters instead of forcing everyone in there like in other fighting games.
The problem with most fighting game stories is that it basically just ends up being a bunch of dumb excuses for people to get into fist fights with each other and they have to fit everyone in there even if it's stupid and makes no sense because otherwise their players get upset.
I kinda like that they don't do this here, the story is a lot more focused.
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Vaelka
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In other words they are blocking people by forcing people to pay them extra for it.
Can people put their fanboy:ism aside for five fucking seconds and actually call bullshit out for what it is?
yazenov
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Who's the Fanboy?
Steam and PlayStation are different platforms owned by different companies. Its business.
Pay up or shut up. Valve should pay if they want cross play with Sony.
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kyoji
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Why are people saying this? where is this as evidence of a sony policy? we already knew sonys stance on cross play they said they werent for it but left it open ended.
Fast forward to the epic vs. apple trial where the leaked email appeared, and im paraphrasing from memory: Epic started the dialogue up about wanting cross play, and sony responded with they werent interested as it did not benefit them or rather they asked what did they have to gain from doing it? This is when epic replied with 'making them out to be a hero' and offering monetization.
Ok pause right there, if sony had a cross play pay to enable policy in place, why would epic need to offer monetary compensation? remember they (epic) were the ones pushing for cross play, so if there was a 'pay' policy in place i could imagine they simply would have lobbied up the fee and that email dialogue would have never existed. Whats understood doesnt need to be explained....
is playstation charging street fighter v for cross play? what about call of duty?
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kyoji
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reading hard huh
yazenov
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Dude its been leaked and disccused already.
Im sure Sony and all the platform holders have different polices and some rules are flexible when it comes to different publishers, depending on their bargaining power and the strength of their IP.
Actually, it would be an extremely dumb business for Sony and its sharholders if Sony didnt charge for cross play as they have the largest userbase, and other platform like xbox are begging for access to that user base. There is no benefit for Sony to allow cross play to their competeing platforms other than to ask for an additional fee. Logically speaking, and I dont blame them.
laynelane
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This:
The publisher pays Sony a royalty fee "to offset the reduction in revenue" only if the proportion of PSN revenue share divided by PS4 gameplay share for a title is less than 85 percent in any given month.
...has somehow become Sony charges for crossplay on all titles, blocking it, forcing people to pay for it, etc. Source
This kind of deal is in place due to the large amount of MTX, Season Passes, etc. in Fortnite. I don't know if it's applicable to something like GG, but it doesn't seem likely.
kyoji
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read my 2nd paragraph of my initial reply to you then get back with me, its fine if we want to examine facts but we shouldnt be injecting our own made up bullshit trying to push it as fact, im not refering to you so much as slime poo poo when i say this.
yazenov
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Javthusiast
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Let the Bullshit Blazing!
SSfox
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A GG review thread and i see haters spreading lies around Sony as usual, while those same people go report other people saying things about Xbox that make them whine ... pathetic...
On the topic: Imo we fighting games fans should not tolerate anymore a new fighting that's not on the level of GG strive when it comes to netcode. Fighting games era with shit netcode has gone long enough, now it's time for a new era of fgs with solid online play.
On the topic: Imo we fighting games fans should not tolerate anymore a new fighting that's not on the level of GG strive when it comes to netcode. Fighting games era with shit netcode has gone long enough, now it's time for a new era of fgs with solid online play.
Mister Wolf
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I bought this fightpad for it. Gonna main Giovanna.
SkylineRKR
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those lobbies man. I hated it straight away. Its my only gripe with the game. Its going to be tough. Rift Apart, GG or both lol.
I'm all for crossplay in fighters, or games with a smaller following in general. But I sometimes wonder if MS would allow crossplay like that if they were in the leaders position. Phil Spencer acting like "we'll invite playstation players with open arms and gaming should unify" sounded more like a ploy to me. Perhaps they were genuine about it, but perhaps their position forced them to.
I'm all for crossplay in fighters, or games with a smaller following in general. But I sometimes wonder if MS would allow crossplay like that if they were in the leaders position. Phil Spencer acting like "we'll invite playstation players with open arms and gaming should unify" sounded more like a ploy to me. Perhaps they were genuine about it, but perhaps their position forced them to.
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SSfox
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Funfact, MS was against crossplay during Xbox 360 era.
FatKingBallman
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Looks like you've been triggered. You missed this mark in the end of my previous post - :/. As a reaction to a dumb thread about DF statement about cross-gen games.
Unknown?
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Hmmm they've been cross play with PC since PS2 days though and NEVER stopped.
amigastar
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No Arcade Stick?
I bought this fightpad for it. Gonna main Giovanna.
Bruno_Arrais85
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it won't. Even Xrd with shitty netcode is still alive on Steam.
Plus, Strive is hosted on AWS instead of SteamWorks on Steam which is the way to go to implement Crossplay in the future.
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Mister Wolf
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No Arcade Stick?
Naw. I've been a pad player since Street Fighter Champion Edition with a six button controller on Genesis.
amigastar
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I can respect that.
CamHostage
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Unfortunately, with the wonky controller support system on consoles where you can't just plug a good device into the USB or connect up the BT and enjoy the game, I think we're actually to the point where PC might be the best place to play some types of console-style games?
I don't know how many people have PCs set up to their TVs for the kind of fighters-over-beers parties that these games used to enjoy, but if you're the type who's spent good money on an arcade stick (or better yet, a pair of arcade sticks,) it must be unnerving every time a console comes out and you have to white-knuckle it to know which of your favorite kits will or will work on the console or even individual games. Meanwhile, PC is as it ever is, plug all that ish in (even controllers made for any one of the other consoles) and play.
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Bruno_Arrais85
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This game works well with all controllers... Hitbox, Pad, Fightstick. Pick whatever you feel more confortable.
Classicrockfan
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would this be good for justsingle player alone?
SSfox
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Too many disconnecting from server, and it take also sometimes to reconnect to the server, wonder if it has something to do with server surcharge? They need to fix and improve those aspects.
But the netcode is really good, it proves that it actually possible to have a good netcode that works like offline, any future fighting game that won't have a netcode that is this good should be thrown in the garbage can.
But the netcode is really good, it proves that it actually possible to have a good netcode that works like offline, any future fighting game that won't have a netcode that is this good should be thrown in the garbage can.
amigastar
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I hope so too, one thing that was lacking in Dragon Ball FighterZ was singleplayer content. But from the looks of it it's better in Guilty Gear Strive.
Klayzer
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SlimeGoo shitposts in every PS topic without fail. He seemingly has no fear of moderation at all.
SSfox
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It's not the best fighting game when it comes to single player imo, i suggest you Soul Calibur 6 if you want some dope single player experience.
MasterDerico
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This game is a totally stepback.
Im a huge HUGE fan of Guilty Gear series...Im not being a troll, but this is not guilty gear, a game recognized by its INSANE mobility and combos. The betas made me sad...
High scores from reviewers that can't even pull a hadouken!
Im a huge HUGE fan of Guilty Gear series...Im not being a troll, but this is not guilty gear, a game recognized by its INSANE mobility and combos. The betas made me sad...
High scores from reviewers that can't even pull a hadouken!
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Pejo
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Not surprised that it's reviewing fairly well. This game was basically made for modern journos. Skill floor has been raised artificially through stripped movesets, universal anti-air, and super high damage across the board. I like the game, but not enough to buy it as it stands on Steam with no crossplay for 84 dollars deluxe.
Shame, it's really beautiful artistically (except Chipp's poopy pants), but you can tell they're really trying to appeal to mass market with this one with the simplistic gameplay, censored designs, and other development decisions. Time will tell how well they did.
Shame, it's really beautiful artistically (except Chipp's poopy pants), but you can tell they're really trying to appeal to mass market with this one with the simplistic gameplay, censored designs, and other development decisions. Time will tell how well they did.
Pejo
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I think it will open the door to more initial sales, but I think very few people that are lured in by the accessibility will actually stay playing longer than a month or so. Fighting games are always chasing that mythological audience that will spend hours upon hours labbing and losing online that aren't already fans of the genre, and I don't believe that such an audience exists.
You could be right though, who knows. I just know that the average casual gamer does not like losing, and does not want to put in the effort to actually get better. I mean every time a new Souls game gets close, like clockwork, we get at least 2-3 articles of "here's why they should do an easy mode".
Games like GBFVS tried to do the extremely simplified inputs with room (and reason) to grow out of them, and that game was dropped like a bad habit. Part of that is netcode, sure, part is cross-play, sure. But why wasn't it a hit with that nebulous "accessibility" crowd who cares about neither of those things?
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JTCx
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It has already been proven time and time again that making fighting games 'accessible' doesn't draw in more players or sales. For some reason fighting game devs can't seem to see the reality of it, theyre chasing an audience that isnt there. People were already calling this game Street Fighter Strive and its quite telling.
At least +R still exist which I am grateful for.
kyoji
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you obviously didnt read the link i provided, or english isnt your first language. because this is some mental gymnastics you have going here.
if you read the article and understood it and or followed fighting games closely then you would know it has nothing to do with the topic you are desperately trying to interject. THATS why i referenced MS as a platform because fighters in general are lacking cross play features as well as good net code, and yet here you are once again desperately trying to draw a line saying a fee is a deterent as to why these devs havent implemented cross play, when its clearly infastructure.
But hey im done now, keep preaching your good gospel, its clear you are free to do as you please without reprecussion like some of us so have at it chief.
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