PisswasserYellow
Member
I try not to judge, but do any of you ever stop and think, "Wow, I am emotionally attached to my video game console of choice" or do you not even realize it?
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Xbox Series X/S consoles continue to sell at a record pace, Microsoft has claimed
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oldergamer
Member
please explain? I did explain my reasoning.
They would have had to have "sold" 10 million in the first year to be the fastest selling Xbox. With more units shipped and sold over the Xmas holidays. my guess is they ended 2021 with close to 12 million sold world wide. They have stock appearing in the channel to supply 42 countries over the holidays and into January. That probably accounts for 1 - 2 million units in transit ( not sold, but shipped )
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Why is it that only the Sony Super fans are so deeply concerned and desperate to know Xbox numbers?
I doubt most of them are major Microsoft investors and even if they are Xbox is such a small part of that multi-trillion-dollar company as to be irrelevant. I also doubt the majority of them even own a Series X or S. So why do they care so much? Is it because they want to be sure their precious is selling more than Xbox? I think we can all concede PlayStation is selling more than Xbox and slaughtering Xbox in the all-important UK boxed sales numbers as well.
The only conclusion I can draw is that any indications that Xbox is also doing well makes them angry, offended, suspicious and:
I doubt most of them are major Microsoft investors and even if they are Xbox is such a small part of that multi-trillion-dollar company as to be irrelevant. I also doubt the majority of them even own a Series X or S. So why do they care so much? Is it because they want to be sure their precious is selling more than Xbox? I think we can all concede PlayStation is selling more than Xbox and slaughtering Xbox in the all-important UK boxed sales numbers as well.
The only conclusion I can draw is that any indications that Xbox is also doing well makes them angry, offended, suspicious and:
oldergamer
Member
That entirely depends which 6 countries those are. It could be the difference between 100k - 300k units for all we know. we won't know until MS financials are provided.Oh sorry i missed 2 countries
Still the difference of 6 countries is not going to make a huge difference.
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oldergamer
Member
This post isn't worth the time you put into it man.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Well its not the reason why series consoles are selling more, because these 6 countries are like Kazakhstan and Vietnam
Riky
$MSFT
Why is it that only the Sony Super fans are so deeply concerned and desperate to know Xbox numbers?
I doubt most of them are major Microsoft investors and even if they are Xbox is such a small part of that multi-trillion-dollar company as to be irrelevant. I also doubt the majority of them even own a Series X or S. So why do they care so much? Is it because they want to be sure their precious is selling more than Xbox? I think we can all concede PlayStation is selling more than Xbox and slaughtering Xbox in the all-important UK boxed sales numbers as well.
The only conclusion I can draw is that any indications that Xbox is also doing well makes them angry, offended, suspicious and:
It's getting so desperate for them they are now demanding that they separate Series X and S for some strange reason
12 million is a very impressive figure, hopefully we get some hint of Gamepass numbers soon.
kingfey
Banned
You need internet connection for your console to work.
The world is on the internet. We play multiplater games online. We have games, that only works online. And these 3rd world countries you keep mentioning, play these games.
Gta online, is the biggest online game, a long side minecraft and roblox. And 3rd world countries play these games.
Kagey K
Banned
Why would they need to separate them? The series S is never going to sell and nobody wants it.It's getting so desperate for them they are now demanding that they separate Series X and S for some strange reason
12 million is a very impressive figure, hopefully we get some hint of Gamepass numbers soon.
Kagey K
Banned
Microsoft has no announced cross gen games left. Halo was the last.
FlyyGOD
Member
Really, Microsoft is ending cross gen development before Sony? That wasn't the narrative e3 2020.(glad I can still play horizons on my ps4).Anyways I would love to see most 3rd parties jump fully onto next gen only titles
Technically, Grounded 1.0 should be the last. Though that’s a much smaller project.
Certainly no cross-gen AAA title remaining.
TheGodfather07
Member
Can Microsoft reach 1b lifetime? I'm not joking. Microsoft actually said that.
www.vg247.com
Xbox One: Microsoft aims for 1 billion lifetime sales, 100 million Xbox 360 units
Microsoft's senior vice president of Interactive Entertainment Business Yusuf Mehdi has stated that given the broad mul…
www.vg247.com
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kingfey
Banned
I would like that smoke pleaseCan Microsoft reach 1b lifetime? I'm not joking. Microsoft actually said that.
Xbox One: Microsoft aims for 1 billion lifetime sales, 100 million Xbox 360 units
Microsoft's senior vice president of Interactive Entertainment Business Yusuf Mehdi has stated that given the broad mul…
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Why is it that only the Sony Super fans are so deeply concerned and desperate to know Xbox numbers?
I doubt most of them are major Microsoft investors and even if they are Xbox is such a small part of that multi-trillion-dollar company as to be irrelevant. I also doubt the majority of them even own a Series X or S. So why do they care so much? Is it because they want to be sure their precious is selling more than Xbox? I think we can all concede PlayStation is selling more than Xbox and slaughtering Xbox in the all-important UK boxed sales numbers as well.
The only conclusion I can draw is that any indications that Xbox is also doing well makes them angry, offended, suspicious and:
spot on! we all know playstation has sold more but they just want a pissing contest by how much. they never believe Microsoft when they make statements but believe everything said by Sony
rickybooby87
Member
I don't really see a whole lot of people scalping Series S. These are available on the shelf at a local big-box retailer quite frequently, they might not last the whole day, but the fact that I've seen them in the flesh says a lot. The SeriesX? Some, but nowhere near the PS5.
MaulerX
Member
Microsoft is transitioning first to Next-Gen only games before Sony. Who would've thought?
They can afford to to that so quickly because of XCloud. Xbox One users can play next-gen only games because of it and the games will still run at higher framerates than native ones.
ZehDon
Member
... nine years ago, before the Xbone imploded causing virtually everyone except Phil Spencer to be removed. Stop the low effort troll posts, unless you thinking dredging up some of Sony's amazing PS3 quotes is somehow also relevant in 2022.Can Microsoft reach 1b lifetime? I'm not joking. Microsoft actually said that.
Xbox One: Microsoft aims for 1 billion lifetime sales, 100 million Xbox 360 units
Microsoft's senior vice president of Interactive Entertainment Business Yusuf Mehdi has stated that given the broad mul…
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
No I do not! I can take my PS5 to my grandma's home (that has no internet) and connect it to a TV via HDMI and play by games. We don't NEED to be online to play our games. Why do you want to be controlled so much by corporations?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This is actually not true at all. Sony had launch games that were next-gen only. MS did not. I think you're confusing supporting last-gen consoles with "transitioning to next-gen only".
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Pretty sure he means ending cross generational first party support outside of xCloud. It's funny because MS never claimed to 'believe in generations' like Sony did yet they are stopping first party cross gen first.
FlyyGOD
Member
I think he's saying Microsoft doesn't have anymore 1st party cross gen games coming out, while every Sony 1st game in 2022 is cross gen.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It's funny that some of you guys still till this day lie about what Jim Ryan was saying when he used that quote. It's sad really. That quote never meant that they wouldn't make another game on the PS4.
If he means that, then he's blaming Sony for having more 1st party games in development overall than MS. I'm sure games like Horizon 2 were in development 2-3 years ago.
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The 16M figure you came up with is so ridiculous that’s all the response that was warranted.
Leyasu
Banned
Why is it that only the Sony Super fans are so deeply concerned and desperate to know Xbox numbers?
I doubt most of them are major Microsoft investors and even if they are Xbox is such a small part of that multi-trillion-dollar company as to be irrelevant. I also doubt the majority of them even own a Series X or S. So why do they care so much? Is it because they want to be sure their precious is selling more than Xbox? I think we can all concede PlayStation is selling more than Xbox and slaughtering Xbox in the all-important UK boxed sales numbers as well.
The only conclusion I can draw is that any indications that Xbox is also doing well makes them angry, offended, suspicious and:
Yep, I don't understand it. Sony will always sell more consoles, so they can sleep easy knowing that that amazing sales game will always be exclusive.
They have nothing to worry about
kingfey
Banned
good luck getting patches for your ps5, or any of your games.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Sorry to hear that.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
You know why. Lol.
And what's funny is that these guys still try to literally put Xbox in the same "box" that Sony and Nintendo are in. When they've literally gone as outside the "box" as you can get! Lol
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kingfey
Banned
its ok. I should have been more careful. Luckily I am vaccinated.
Sony and Nintendo talk about theirs. Not surprising on a enthusiast forum people want to know actual hardware sales for Xbox and not PR and estimates.
kingfey
Banned
If MS were so serious about gaming, like Sony, they would have bought studios left and right. They spent $7b on bethesda like its nothing.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
I dont understand what you mean.
kingfey
Banned
Sony and Nintendo have to talk about it. Not for their users, but for their shareholders, since those 2 are big part of their business. While MS on other hand is giant, that xbox division is insignificant to the eyes of the shareholders.
That is the difference between nintendo/Sony and MS.
kingfey
Banned
MS isnt interested in xbox. We seen that, during xbox one era. No 1st party investment at all. Once they decided to invest in, they suddenly have 23 studios. That is a company, that want to keep xbox like little toy.
Sony and Nintendo don’t have to make it public. They can keep it in privacy with the company and shareholders. They talk about it because they have nothing to hide regarding sales.
There’s only one reason why MS doesn’t reveal hardware sales anymore and everybody knows why.
Let’s not play dumb.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
You should take your own advice.
kingfey
Banned
They cant hide it. They have to share it, during the quarter earnings. You cant hide that.
MS business is azura and windows. Xbox is a side business. They make insane amount of money from their service, azura, and windows. Xbox hardware sales means nothing to them.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Yes, but you don't have to download and install patches to play games. Plus being able to connect to the internet at "MY" leisure is different than having a company force me to stay online.
Have you took time to stop and read the thread title? It's like some of you guys forgot what this discussion is about.
Yeah I don't think it's insane to think that's what some of us want to talk about. God forbid right?
You sure? Because MS used to ALWAYS talk about sales up until 2015.
Microsoft stops reporting console sales
Apples-to-apples comparisons in the console wars are getting even harder to come by. As reported by Game Informer, Micr…
www.gamesindustry.biz
And then a few years later this happened.
Microsoft won't reveal Xbox Live active users going forward as it focuses on Xbox Game Pass
We're about to get even less information.
www.windowscentral.com
Edgelord79
Gold Member
I suspect there is more truth to this than many think.
I don’t care what Xbox means to them. They use to show Xbox sales and now they don’t. There’s a reason for that.
Sony and Nintendo don’t hide hardware sales meaning they put together under hardware and services or something. Sony did exactly that during the PS3 generation. Shareholders still know exact sales but the public doesn’t.
kingfey
Banned
Maybe you need to read patch notes for the ps5 or any patch games 1st. especially those day1 patches.
Steve palmer was the ceo for MS in 2014, and Satya become the ceo after that.
He changed the company, and started to focus on subscription service.
kingfey
Banned
Again, the company is going for subscription model. Xbox is tiny business, and their hardware sales means nothing to their shareholders.
They are going full mode for xcloud and subscription service. That is someone that doesnt give a crap about hardware numbers. You dont go to that business model, if you care about hardware numbers.
Lognor
Banned
Dude, let it go! It's been seven years and you're still whining that Microsoft doesn't share numbers! You whining on a message board is not going to change that fact. Let.it.go.
I know you have been studying video game sales for "decades" (your claim, not mine), but you gotta let this go, buddy. You're not getting those sales anymore. You need to move on. Did you whine this much when NPD stopped sharing hardware sales? I know you have love your sales discussions, but your obsession about Xbox sales numbers is not healthy. Gotta move on, pal.
Lognor
Banned
It's been seven years. You need to move on too.
I'm a Microsoft shareholder and I don't know the exact sales. You're talking shit.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Ok I'll bite. Why?
How convenient, a perfect excuse as to why hardware sales aren’t shown anymore.
They can have a different approach to business all they want. That still doesn’t explain the lack of real data. Which anybody with common sense can see why they don’t talk about it anymore.
I assume they’re nothing to brag about in comparison to the competition.
Sony did exactly this with PS3.
kingfey
Banned
Let me ask you this question?
How big do you think, Xbox is to MS? Compared PlayStation to Sony? Or Switch to Nintendo?