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[Forbes] PlayStation Is Still A Hit Machine While Xbox Hasn’t Even Started Catching Up
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GHG
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This is one of the most hilarious takes I've seen in a while.
If that's the case then why isn't Xbox dominating everywhere outside of Japan? They seem to know what people want right?
Captain Toad
Banned
They had their bi-annual racing game that was almost identical to the previous game, a multi-platform game that they bought up near end of production and I'm not sure the other - the simulation game?
They followed it up with a full year of no releases outside of the indie-like game with Obsidian's name put on it.
I personally need more than this. Let's see if next year actually produces, like we say every year lately.
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Punished Miku
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That's the truth.
Rogue Legacy 2 also. Death's Door. Scorn. Somerville. High on Life. Warhammer Darktide. Slime Rancher 2. Shredders. And more.
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LiquidMetal14
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Three cheers for Uncle Phil
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solidus12
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balls of snow
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Why is it always a Paul Tassi article.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
They released freaking crackhead 3 in the same year Sony released God of War 2018 and Spider-Man. That speaks volumes on their judgement of quality too. It’s not just a quantity issue.
vaibhavpisal
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TheTony316
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I mean, he's right. Gamepass, pro consumer tactics, cheapest current gen console, 23 studios, trillions of dollars and they still can't catch up to Playstation.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
We can talk about bussines model, ecosystem, hardware, UX, and Conumer friendly PR and initiatives.....at the end of the day is about content.
AAA GOTY contender content.
AAA GOTY contender content.
Topher
Identifies as young
.....then you are in list war phase.
Captain Toad
Banned
You realize The Medium (which sucks) is also on PS5?
You realize The Ascent is also on PS5?
GHG
Gold Member
If they don't care about selling the most consoles then why should anyone care about this:
Would you look at that, they grew the console space so much with their "innovation", so much so that they now don't care about selling the most consoles.
The success was so much that they couldn't handle it.
balls of snow
Member
If only starfield wasnt delayed outta the year.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
You realize that we were talking about 2021. I made a mistake when it comes to The Medium as this was released in 2021 on both Xbox and PlayStation, 9 months apart.
Punished Miku
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And Sifu is on Switch so it can never be referenced in any Sony related thread ever again. Forever.
Captain Toad
Banned
So you're really shuffling goal posts around to make an argument. About games that are barely worth mentioning even IF they were actually exclusives.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Oh Jesus, check the entire context of the conversation before you jump in or STFU.
You can start at post #30, good luck buddy.
Captain Toad
Banned
How often is Sifu brought up?
And we are comparing Xbox vs PlayStation, the fact a game is also on Switch such as Ori and the Will of the Wisps or Disgaea 6 is irrelevant when comparing Xbox and PS.
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But I was told Phil was the saviour.
diffusionx
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Halo Infinite was supposed to be their big title for the gen. We can all laugh at it now, but they spent hundreds of millions of dollars and gave 343 basically everything they needed for that project. They claimed they learned all the lessons from 4/5 and were building the game from scratch to be all things to all people. They were positioning it at launch with GP to get people to buy the system and GP to play it.
Maybe delivering a 10/10 knockout game like Halo 3 is asking a lot but that’s what they were riding on. If Infinite was as good as they wanted it to be, again Halo 3 quality type game, everything would be fine. Of course, 343 did 343 things and the game was not just a joke and meme at unveiling, not just half-formed after a year delay, but continues to be a pile of shit a year later. So it all went belly up. I really think MS pivoted to the Activision purchase because this game was such a disaster and they knew it.
Maybe delivering a 10/10 knockout game like Halo 3 is asking a lot but that’s what they were riding on. If Infinite was as good as they wanted it to be, again Halo 3 quality type game, everything would be fine. Of course, 343 did 343 things and the game was not just a joke and meme at unveiling, not just half-formed after a year delay, but continues to be a pile of shit a year later. So it all went belly up. I really think MS pivoted to the Activision purchase because this game was such a disaster and they knew it.
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bender
What time is it?
The Xbox One days until 2016 included were not that bad compared to what we have now. Sony already had the upper hand in quality with some releases but Microsoft wasn't far behind. Since Scalebound was cancelled there wasn't any big year.
The thing is, i don't even know if they are doing what they're doing on purpose. I feel like Phil's been talking about japanese games for years now. And the only thing we have is a cloud game with Kojima, it's not even Xbox focused. It's the same for a lot of games that are in Microsoft DNA but not in the Xbox DNA like Flight Sim, AoE, Gears Tactics, Ara...it makes me think that if they wanted to have a line up for Xbox, even if it's not with huge AAA, they could definitely do it, but they won't.
The Xbox Series launched with absolutely nothing, a few bad indie games exclusive for 3 months. Either they really don't know how to focus on one thing anymore, they don't have any schedule, they don't have a strategy and only grab opportunities. Or it's a matter of reducing costs, and the Gamepass/cloud/PC strategy vampirized everything, they don't really see Xbox as their center but one pillar among many. But that's weird considering Xbox is still their biggest gaming plateform by far and that they said Gamepass growth was limited.
The thing is, i don't even know if they are doing what they're doing on purpose. I feel like Phil's been talking about japanese games for years now. And the only thing we have is a cloud game with Kojima, it's not even Xbox focused. It's the same for a lot of games that are in Microsoft DNA but not in the Xbox DNA like Flight Sim, AoE, Gears Tactics, Ara...it makes me think that if they wanted to have a line up for Xbox, even if it's not with huge AAA, they could definitely do it, but they won't.
The Xbox Series launched with absolutely nothing, a few bad indie games exclusive for 3 months. Either they really don't know how to focus on one thing anymore, they don't have any schedule, they don't have a strategy and only grab opportunities. Or it's a matter of reducing costs, and the Gamepass/cloud/PC strategy vampirized everything, they don't really see Xbox as their center but one pillar among many. But that's weird considering Xbox is still their biggest gaming plateform by far and that they said Gamepass growth was limited.
Makoto-Yuki
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what are the hits?
DeepEnigma
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Gudji
Member
Fixed.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
they always say that but what i want is results. good results
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
man i wish phil/matt were reading these forums
solidus12
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64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
that aged so fucking badly it's funnyWhat’s wrong with Crackhead 3?
Oof85
Banned
Have you seen the software charts in Japan? They're breaking all time sales records.
Now some 3rd parties have definitely been marginalized but that's on them.
Git gud and create compelling games.
Content is king.
Punished Miku
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It's not irrelevant. The whole thread is comparing first party output. But you very frequently see other games brought up all the time that aren't first party, like Kena, Sifu, or even FFXVI. The point we were making is that these often get ignored when other people do it, but treated like Sony titles when Sony does it. Stray is another great example of this. No one acts like Nintendo helped make Neon White, but everyone acts like Sony personally massaged Stray into greatness. Both are published by Annapurna.
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DeepEnigma
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PR/Monetary gain.What’s wrong with Crackhead 3?
With dude's like this being your "influencer/ambassador," you don't need enemies.
FrankWza
Member
Only problem with this comparison is that the yanks at least have a history of winning. How do you compare? Console generation? 100 million sales? I think the Brooklyn Nets are a better comparison.
Topher
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64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
i know, but.....
i still do think that taking away titles from ps owners is a bad thing but Bethesda honestly feels right at home with Xbox. Activision is a way harder acquisition to justify though, maybe besides the fact COD during its peak was with Xbox there isn't much of a reason for Microsoft to spring towards them.
DarkMage619
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It's interesting that NOW we care what Paul Tassi says.
Plenty of PlayStation fans tell Phil and the entire Xbox team their thoughts regularly on Twitter.
If we are talking about purely games being made available, Xbox is doing fantastic. There is tons to play and since Xbox was never really reliant on first party droughts like this, while unfortunate, aren't the biggest deal. I'd rather the games get delayed and be quality than be rushed and ridiculed.
Oof85
Banned
Returnal definitely doesn't fall under that label but Ratchet clearly does.
And what got the most acclaim last year?
Returnal was a pleasant surprise but Ratchet was the bigger game by the media's response, even though later on it was pretty but the rift gameplay was a nonstarter.
Glossy, AAA Action Adventure is the formula
itsjustJEFF
Member
Yea, which is so weird. Of course they've had their hits, no one is denying that, but I'm almost 100% sure there are as much talent in the Xbox studios as their are in the PlayStation studios. I refuse to believe there is a big talent gap. It has to be that the talent isn't being utilized properly or isn't being allowed to be as good as they can be. So probably management, that's my guess.
Markio128
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Playing devil’s advocate, I guess MS could have released Starfield this year, but they did the sensible thing and delayed it, so it could be polished. I was pretty gutted at the time, but I’m lucky enough to own a PS5 and Switch as well, meaning I’ll never experience a complete drought.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh STFU. Most of us were negging on him.
Go spitshine your Xbox.
Super cringe on Xbox's part, since they don't call out their own warriors.
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ChorizoPicozo
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Not the point my dude.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
so how the fuck did the first one manage to outsell the gamecube? how the fuck did the 360 sell 80+ million? did microsoft brainwash millions of people to invest into their green box instead of a Playstation?
Look man if you truly liked Xbox you'd be critical of it. You can still like Xbox even if they've got little first party, no one's blaming you. But just fucking admit it dude. PLEASE
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Jennings
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This is not a news article. This is not journalism. This was not written by Forbes. This is one person's third-party opinion piece uploaded to the Forbes website. It's fluff, and should not be respected any more than your average tweet or forum post.
These are the same types of Forbes contributors that upload words just to brag about their kids.
These are the same types of Forbes contributors that upload words just to brag about their kids.
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GHG
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yeah, but didnt the Nets just fire their manager.
They have stuck with this GM for the last 25 years now. He's won a total of 1 world series in the last 22 years despite spending close to $5 billion on payroll. This manager has spent 5 seasons without ever even reaching the world series. How is it not clear to ownership that these guys cant do it? Phil has spent billions since he took over in 2013. Minecraft $3.5 billion, Zenimax $8 billion, Activision $75 billion, who knows what he paid for those smaller studios. It's clear that hes good at spending money. Just not good at producing results.
Get him the fuck outta there.
DeepEnigma
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ReBurn
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Of course we can deny it. This is NeoGAF. We can deny anything.
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