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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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DenchDeckard

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I hope Sarah Bond takes over after Phil, she's a boss bitch!

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They should focus on getting a publishing and division management team that is experienced in delivering results - promoting anyone from current Xbox management is the equivalent of just promoting a new Spencer. In my opinion, the whole group should be shown the door and they start from fresh.

Generally people who make deals are the ones who get promoted. Phil made a lot of deals with publishers to bring games to Xbox. I think we can safely credit the resurgence of a lot of Japanese content on Xbox thanks to him. Don't forget, there was a very long stretch of years where Xbox was not getting almost any Japanese content, outside of maybe a Capcom, at all.

Phil has been training and chaperoning Sarah with him everywhere. She's basically in all the events. Odds are very high she will be the natural successor.
 
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Generally people who make deals are the ones who get promoted. Phil made a lot of deals with publishers to bring games to Xbox. I think we can safely credit the resurgence of a lot of Japanese content on Xbox thanks to him. Don't forget, there was a very long stretch of years where Xbox was not getting almost any Japanese content, outside of maybe a Capcom, at all.
It's quite easy to get those deals when you're merely paying for the support in the form of GP deals and whatnot. Those games are fine and all, but they don't move the needle on fixing their current set of issues plaguing the division. In fact, paying out many for publisher support is a direct consequence of their inability to move hardware on an international level - if they were selling more units, that support would be coming naturally and they'd have 0 need to pay for publisher support.
 
She's as useless as him. If Satya had any sense, both would be shown the door escorted by security.
Satya wanted to axe the whole Xbox division when he became CEO. He did give Ballmer's beloved phone division the guillotine almost immediately after taking over but was convinced by Xbox management at the time to stay his hand.

At some point, he's going to revisit that decision and I don't think they'll be able to stop him from getting the shotgun and taking Xbox out behind the shed a second time.
 

Nothing1234

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They should focus on getting a publishing and division management team that is experienced in delivering results - promoting anyone from current Xbox management is the equivalent of just promoting a new Spencer. In my opinion, the whole group should be shown the door and they start from fresh.
Shannon Studstill or Shawn Layden IMO. Matt Booty etc are not it.
 
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Pelta88

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Love how you guys know this deal is so dead you are hoping MS illegally bribes people

The arc of this thread...

From Adulation and Congratulations being sent to Phil Spencer. Coupled with a ton of confidence and a plethora of assurances from XBOX Influencers and people who would frame the loss of a limb, as a positive step for Microsoft.

To Microsoft's self-deprecating admissions about the true state of XBOX to regulators. To confusion. Followed by a ton of mind-bending PR. To Lena Khan being demonised and talk about this acquisition being about "freedom." Which morphed into people saying, outright, that Microsoft shouldn't be subject to any form of regulation or questioning of their intentions.

To cope. And claims by XBOX influencers that they "no longer care" about the acquisition to save face. To mods on era banning people for saying checks and balances are a good thing... Suddenly Cope became a dependency... To finding gaf members online ranting about Playstation conspiracy theories.

Fun times.
 
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HoofHearted

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I will be mildly shocked if it doesnt go through honestly
I'm mildly shocked at the number of armchair lawyers/CEOs/business strategists in this thread.. :)

Whichever way this thing goes - the fallout by those dissenting of the final/end decision will be glorious...

It's really weird, yet interesting and oddly entertaining, watching the opinions here sway back and forth whenever any minor update/news drops...
 
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feynoob

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The arc of this thread...

From Adulation and Congratulations being sent to Phil Spencer. Coupled with a ton of confidence and a plethora of assurances from XBOX Influencers and people who would frame the loss of a limb, as a positive step for Microsoft.

To Microsoft's self-deprecating admissions about the true state of XBOX to regulators. To confusion. Followed by a ton of mind-bending PR. To Lena Khan being demonised and talk about this acquisition being about "freedom." Which morphed into people saying, outright, that Microsoft shouldn't be subject to any form of regulation or questioning of their intentions.

To cope. And claims by XBOX influencers that they "no longer care" about the acquisition to save face. To mods on era banning people for saying checks and balances are a good thing... Suddenly Cope became a dependency... To finding gaf members online ranting about Playstation conspiracy theories.

Fun times.
The most interesting is that people are happy for a gaint company to spend $68b freaking money, in order to buy another gaint company.

To put it simply, that money is half of Sony entire business, and more than nintendo as a whole industry.
 

Mibu no ookami

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While a Japanese developer seems to make sense to buy for Sony, I just don't see much point. Those studios are already associated with Sony so hard they are almost a exclusive already.

Not sure if CDPR is too fond of Sony (especially after Cyberpunk) and has always partnered with Xbox.

From's success isn't at all based on the Japanese region, nor are their games currently exclusive to PlayStation.

Sony didn't develop Cyberpunk CDPR did, they know they have no one to blame than themselves. Why it relates to Sony and why Sony matters more than any partnerships they've done with Microsoft, is the vast majority of their consumers are on PlayStation. PlayStation owns Europe, and they're European.
 

Mibu no ookami

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Sony buys where there are synergies, a working relationship and ideally addresses some weakness of Sony and brings in additional knowledge

From Software fits the bill there but they are also a cashcow now for Kadokawa and won't part cheaply

CDPR helps with WRPGs but you can't describe their relationship with Sony in good terms. Maybe that will turn around but other than improving their PS5 port of Cyberpunk there doesn't seem to be evidence of that

There aren't always synergies. Look at the Bungie acquisition or Gakai.

I think in general, you'd like there to be synergies because it makes integration more likely to be successful, but you can't limit yourself to only companies with close ties, that is in general why you want to basically have close ties with everyone though.

I think CDPR makes a ton of sense given the PC launcher and there is a lot of support Sony could give CDPR on their future games lining them up with PlayStation Studios.

Then you have the relationship growing between Warner and Sony after The Last of Us... that could certainly tie into them wanting to grow Cyberpunk together.
 

Warablo

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From's success isn't at all based on the Japanese region, nor are their games currently exclusive to PlayStation.

Sony didn't develop Cyberpunk CDPR did, they know they have no one to blame than themselves. Why it relates to Sony and why Sony matters more than any partnerships they've done with Microsoft, is the vast majority of their consumers are on PlayStation. PlayStation owns Europe, and they're European.
What do they really gain from buying From? While it would be a cool dev to have. It's not like they would gain a bunch new users on Sony, because most people are already playing From games on Sony consoles.

I don't think CDPR thought too kindly of Sony pulling a game from their storefront. Especially if CDPR thought it was in a playable state, then highlighted Sony's terrible refund policy.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Era already having a mini meltdown based on what Idas reported. 😂
Is there any time or any news that doesn't generate a meltdown there?
Just pîck any scenario....
Let's say "I liked Atomic Heart" but it is a russian games, therefore you are instantly considered pro russia then, pro genocide.
For hogwart you are supposedly being transphobic and antisemith then you are suddenly the resurrection of hitler.
Now the opposite works too fofr scenario 1 you are too political and for scenario 2 you used the wrong pronoun or someone felt offended for whatever reason then back to the beginning.
 
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Yoboman

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There aren't always synergies. Look at the Bungie acquisition or Gakai.

I think in general, you'd like there to be synergies because it makes integration more likely to be successful, but you can't limit yourself to only companies with close ties, that is in general why you want to basically have close ties with everyone though.

I think CDPR makes a ton of sense given the PC launcher and there is a lot of support Sony could give CDPR on their future games lining them up with PlayStation Studios.

Then you have the relationship growing between Warner and Sony after The Last of Us... that could certainly tie into them wanting to grow Cyberpunk together.
Sony has synergies with Bungie, a long marketing relationship over the past decade and they fill gaps Sony needs.
 

Yoboman

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From's success isn't at all based on the Japanese region, nor are their games currently exclusive to PlayStation.

Sony didn't develop Cyberpunk CDPR did, they know they have no one to blame than themselves. Why it relates to Sony and why Sony matters more than any partnerships they've done with Microsoft, is the vast majority of their consumers are on PlayStation. PlayStation owns Europe, and they're European.
If I'm Sony I'm locking down From because somebody else will if Kadokawa decided to sell

I'm quite confident that Sony bought shares last year because it gets them first seat at the buyers table if it comes up
 
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The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Sony has synergies with Bungie, a long marketing relationship over the past decade and they fill gaps Sony needs.
Not really, and Sony knows this, which is why they are fighting so hard for this deal.

Destiny 2 and call of duty has two completely different target of audience.

They are nothing alike.
 

PaintTinJr

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Going to probably be a challenging meeting for both parties if Microsoft are only willing to commit to 10 years as a behavioural remedy. Wouldn’t want to be a fly on the wall.
Not likely if they haven't done as instructed by the CMA. Anyone that ever went to an appointment with the student grants office - in the UK in years gone by - will have experienced a truncated appointment when they said they didn't fill out a section of the application form for reasons xyz, and were promptly instructed how to overcome their issue and to arrange an appointment when the form was complete. The fly on the wall will definitely be there all day, Microsoft might not make it to lunch time.

I wonder if their meeting with ATVI the day after is to deliver the cancellation fee in person.
 

Yoboman

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Tencent may have a bit more shares iirc but it would be between the two.
Yeah they both bought into Kadokawa and From Software so they probably have the same objective. Sony have some big partnership with Kadokawa too covering other media

If it comes down to it Sony may get the edge from the preexisting relationships. But that's all assuming a sale ever even happens
 
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What delicious and delusional copium over at REE.
The CMA became the driving force behind the acquisition being generally opposed by big regulatory bodies. The FTC continues to oppose it like crazy. & the EC is somehow now in favour of the deal because... "positive body language"? Didn't realise Brad was a psychologist, thought he was like a lawyer . Yet, MS arrived to the conclusion that the EC has changed stances, because they supposedly looked positive after a presentation, where MS basically repeated the same things they already said a million times before, added a fabricated pie chart where they conveniently left out Nintendo because... reasons and somehow their representatives have now become Professor X & can now read minds and body language to deduce the EC had a change of heart? Those guys are making it sound like the CMA cares about Sony's outcries or are in their payroll. You really cannot make that stuff up. If insanity had an avatar, the guy above would be a perfect fit for it.

Look, I'm not for or against the deal, I'm sort of in between where I don't really care. But the thing I observed is that MS, just doesn't look as positive as it did, when the buyout was announced. Looks like they aren't even trying anymore and you can see it in the faces of people like Brad, whose expression almost screams that he's grown tired of the back and forth and just doesn't want to do it anymore. I don't know if MS has become desperate and is now trying every excuse in the book to get this through.
 
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Thirty7ven

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I think the deal is going through with these long concessions and then we will enter a new narrative cycle where people pretend MS will suddenly divert Acti resources to dormant IP/new ip.
 

Mibu no ookami

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If I'm Sony I'm locking down From because somebody else will if Kadokawa decided to sell

I'm quite confident that Sony bought shares last year because it gets them first seat at the buyers table if it comes up

I think they bought the crowd out Tencent but didn't want to buy at the time because of the ABK deal.

I think shortly after this deal closes one way or another, Sony will move to buy out the rest of the company. It's probably their biggest target at the moment.
 
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